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2c-t-2 and mixing to get a more "complete" psychedelic experience

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Okay, I have given this one a go a few times at doses ranging from moderate to somewhat strong and have been pleased, but noticed a few things about the drug. The first is that the "headspace" as I call it, basically the general feeling you have on the drug was really wonderful and not "weird" like some drugs or "up and down" like, say, mushrooms. So in this respect, I find the drug has a really positive grounding for a trip... but, the trip did not ever seem to push my thoughts into the "deep introspection mode" like LSD or something similar would. That brings me to my dilemma...

Do you think that by adding another drug in with 2c-t-2, you could get a combo that keeps the great "headspace" of 2c-t-2 with another drug, maybe 2c-e, 2c-i, or 2c-c to give more introspection to the trip? The feeling I got from the 2c-t-2 alone was more the "Sit back and relax, and don't really think too intently about things" type... I'm wondering if anyone has experience or could make an educated guess as to whether or not one of the aforementioned drugs (or maybe a few not mentioned ones) would push this interesting experience in the direction of a mind-blowing one?

Thanks ahead of time for all replies!
 
I think this question is best answered by someone who is experienced with t2 and with mixing 2cs in general, which I am not. I will, however, offer some intuitive insight. :)

The headspace you describe sounds really precious and valuable. I think I may have felt a glimmer of it in t7. Sharp and clear, yet cool and relaxed. As far as adding an introspective element, I don't think 2ce would be able to contribute introspection without obliterating the prior. I think it would add that "up and down" feeling you attribute to mushrooms.
Have you thought about tryptamines at all? or are you solely interested in 2cs? I think 4-ho-MiPT might be perfect. It provides an active energy flow and definite introspective quality without the emotional weirdness and ambiguity of mushrooms. There's a definite positive push, like the subtle uplifting quality of LSD but even more defined and present.
 
what were your doses of 2c-t-2? I found it to be somewhat introspective, but not terribly so until you get to the ~28-32mg level, or thereabouts.

Combining it with a halogenated 2c (c, b, i) wouldn't, in my estimation, give you any added introspection, as those seem to be somewhat mentally neutral. Adding an alkylated 2c (d, e, p) would probably send you more into an introspective space. However, keep in mind that 2c-t-2 may well have some mao properties that could potentiate the second drug substantially. I've combined e with t2, and it was definitely a wild ride. Definitely not up & down like shrooms, but the headspace was probably more characteristic of 2c-e than t2. I've never combined t2 with 2c-d or 2c-p. 2c-d might work well for what you're looking for, but thats purely speculation on my part.

In the tryptamine realm, most of those tend to be quite up & down. The aco's less than the hydroxy's, but still less steady than PEAs. Not that I don't enjoy trypts, they just tend to be quite bumpy for me. Smoking some DMT while on 2c-t-2 would almost certainly lead to some introspection, but DMT tends to overpower most other drugs. And I'm not sure if the introspection would last much longer than the acute effects of the DMT.
 
^The doses were 9mg rectal and 11mg rectal, which I would have thought to be relatively high doses, but the effects certainly weren't overpowering. It did kick my ass the next day, though, which has really never happened from a psychedelic before...


Anyways, I might try to get a full 2c-t-2 dose first before combining with 2c-e and maybe a little bit of dried cubensis mushrooms. I certainly think the feel of 2c-t-2 gives a really good, peaceful headspace, and that's what I was thinking would make it in particular so good to mix.

Anyone tried 2c-c and 2c-t-2 or even -7? I read somewhere that it is supposed to be really colorful when one of the 2c-t's is mived with 2c-c, but can't really remember where I read that to go look at it again...
 
I'm looking forward to 2C-T-2 with either 4-AcO-DMT or 4-AcO-MET, probably the former. From the sounds of -MET, though, considering both -T-2 and -MET are considered highly therapeutic, the latter *does* have its appeal. Has anyone ever done either combo? Thanks y'all!!!
 
As long as 2C-T-2 is in the equation you can forget about that headspace. Ive tried all the combos youve mentioned and a fair few of the 4 acetoxy compounds with it. Sorry to say bu t2 just doesnt let that sort of thing happen. Honestly it just flat overpowers most of its counterparts. I think you should keep looking for a solid base chem. 2C-E combod with 2C-I is magnificent imo. thats a good starting point to achieving your goal.
 
I used to mix dxm and t2 all the time to amazing effect. I would usually take around 300-400 mg dxm and anywhere from 10-25mg t2.
 
I haven't mixed anything with T-2, but my thought it that 2C-E would actually provide what you're looking for as long as you keep its dose fairly low. 2C-T-2 is the 2C-T version of 2C-E anyway... I believe their effects would complement each other very nicely.
 
Just my 2 cents, but I have tripped a lot on 2ce and a bit with t2. By far my favorite thing is to take them at the same time. Usually I'll dose 30 mg 2ce oral and about 1.5 hours later i'll snort 15mg t2. The trip is just fantastic, a little overwhelming at first but a lot of fun.
 
A Penny for Your Thoughts

I haven't mixed anything with T-2, but my thought it that 2C-E would actually provide what you're looking for as long as you keep its dose fairly low. 2C-T-2 is the 2C-T version of 2C-E anyway... I believe their effects would complement each other very nicely.

Hey, this seems to be the appropriate place to ask my question, my question which I hope to at the very least be answered with a hypothetical answer if nobody has actually done what I'd like to do.

That said, you seem rather knowledgeable as a person with experiences with psychedelics; as such, I imagine that even if you haven't done this combo, that you'd at least be able to postulate what the outcome may be.

I'm planning on getting 100 milligrams each of 2C-T-2 and 4-AcO-DMT; my next move is to break up the whole of each into either fourths or fifths and mix them into equal parts into gel caps.

Now, since 2C-T-2 is a MAOI, do you think that it will greatly increase the potency of the 4-AcO-DMT? How about if I insufflated the two (breaking them down further into sixths for such), so that I was insufflating roughly 16 milligrams of each? Do you think that would be a good dose of the two for a very intense, but still safe, trip? Or, should I break it down further. I know that the MAOI action of 2C-T-2 would make some difference, I'm just not sure how much of one it would make.

I also am curious if methylone would be safe to mix with 2C-T-2... I know of countless reports of people safely taking MDMA with 2C-T-2 (and even 2C-T-7), but I have heard of the deaths associated with 2C-T-7 and MDMA, not to mention the accounts of Serotonin Syndrome from the same combo (and I believe that from the 2C-T-2 Serotonin Syndrome has been reported as well--however, I do believe that the individuals having suffered this tragedy took big risks by taking large quantities of each, just like with the deaths and maladies from mixing 2C-T-7 with other things... aren't there even some deaths from simply taking too much 2C-T-7? That's something of interest to me if were to go through with insufflating any 2C-T-2 since it's related, in spite of no deaths having been reported associated with this research chem). So what say you with regard to the safety, and likewise, the possibility of synergy whilst taking 2C-T-2 and downing a dose of methylone along with it? I know that taking the 4-AcO-DMT with it should be entirely safe... perhaps very strong and I'd guess rather synergistic, but still safe: But with methylone being related to amphetamines and to cathinone/methcathinone, even if it is a relatively low level stimulant, not to mention its serotonin releasing capacity, though also low level in comparison to MDMA, but still an effect of this research chem along with its CNS stimulating action, what say you with regard to mixing this substance with 2C-T-2, and if so, what seems like a safe dosage of each? I don't want to overdo it, but I can handle really intense trips quite well and with grace to boot. I've taken roughly 50 milligrams of both 2C-E and 4-AcO-DET together and remained lucid throughout, even when the peak-which lasted between six and eight hours-was going strong... not to mention that this was my first psychedelic experience in 16 years-the last time I tripped was at age 17 on a hit of acid called "death" which led to a severe bad trip, hence the long stay away from psychedelics. I grew an interest again in them after reading about the therapeutic value of them in controlled environments, and, being in my 30's I no longer have all of those crazy teenage hang-ups that I had back then and in their stead have all new ones-but issues I can deal with and feel psychedelics can--and from the 2C-E/4-AcO-DET experiences--do help alleviate. Now I'm not counting MDMA since it's only mildly psychedelic, but in the past seven years or so, I've done my fair share of that entactogen. But even with MDMA, I've rolled on four double stacks while on coke, smoking lots of potent weed, and on a bevy of meds including, but not limited to methylphenidate, morphine sulphate, hydromorphone, and clonazepam. Anyhow, I digress. The whole reason I've taken a recent interest again in psychedelics is for both spiritual and therapeutic value; I'm tired of psychiatric bullshit (heh, except for my clonazepam, amphetamine salts (switched from the methylphenidate... though I may switch back; I sort of prefer it oddly enough--I know I'm in the minority there), temazepam, and zolpidem tartrate. My pain meds are another story, as too is my carisoprodol, but I don't disparage those either, lol). I don't know, I just feel like that taken infrequently and with the right mindset and intentions, psychedelics and entactogens (or empathogens, whatever you want to call them) both can deliver one's soul and mind peace, serenity, and great insight into one's self and one's own world around one's self. Wouldn't you agree? So anyway, that's why I went off on that tangent about the 2C-E, 4-AcO-DET, and the MDMA experiences... however, as said in another post, I *did* black out on that much MDMA: I know that I got nothing out of that experience because even when I was "with it", I wasn't lucid-I was far too high on all the shit in my system (I mean four double stacks... basically eight doses of MDMA!!!) to do much more than sit and stare off into space for the hours I wasn't blacked out and seemingly just lying on my bed. That brings me back to my questions... knowing that there are limits and being lucky enough to have survived some stupid events such as that one with the MDMA I told you about, I *AM* going to get my hands on both the 2C-T-2 and 4-AcO-DMT, likely mix them, but want to know an educated guess as to how much of each. I may also get some methylone, in which case, I'd like to get an educated guess on what a safe amount of methylone would be while tripping on 2C-T-2. Finally, I may also get some 2C-B and MDMA and wonder what of these five substances would be good combos! Thanks to anyone with any input!!! :)
 
Hmmm...

Just my 2 cents, but I have tripped a lot on 2ce and a bit with t2. By far my favorite thing is to take them at the same time. Usually I'll dose 30 mg 2ce oral and about 1.5 hours later i'll snort 15mg t2. The trip is just fantastic, a little overwhelming at first but a lot of fun.

It appears that enough peeps have suggested or done that combo, and, having fallen in love with the 2C-E experience, I think I'll have to try this out! I think that I'll probably go 40 mg of the 2C-E and 16 or 17 mg of the 2C-T-2 because I LOVE getting lost in that trance-like state of introspection you can only get from dosing high, but still dosing safely!!!
 
i found 2ct2 to be very introspective in a different way then acid and mushrooms though. those two seem more spiritual. 2ct2 has always been more focused on me as a person, i think about emotions, love, andmy life. theres a strong empathetic quality to 2ct2 that feels kind of like mdma.

that said i think lsd would be a good candidate if you want a more psychedelic experience. i tried lsd and 2ci together and it was one of the funnest most positive trips ive had. i imagine 2ct2 and lsd would be amazing
 
As others have said I found 2C-T-2 and 2C-E combined incredibly well. I had 12mg of both rectally and it produced what is one of my top 3 trips. Incredible visuals and an amazing sense of empathy and introspection is what I can remember vividly but i'm sure there were other points to it as well. Initial nausea was quite strong if I remember rightly but this soon passed (with the help of a little weed) leaving a very light bodyload that was easily tollerable and barely noticable throught the trip.
 
I havn't tried it, but my experiences with these compounds suggests that 2C-E and 2C-T-2 is where to look, at least within the realm of combining T2 with things.

Cosmoknot:

I would council caution on mixing the T-2 and the 4-AcO-DMT, though i'd say it would likely be okay (cut the dose down a bit though), because phenthylamines and tryptamines are metabolized by different MAO's (one by MAOA, one by MAOB), and neither of them are monoamine releasers/reuptake inhibitors.

I would council caution with mixing 2C-T-2 (and especially T-7) with methylone or any other triple release agents. It might be okay if you're careful on the dosing, but there's no shortage of better, safer, options. Any of the halo or alkyl 2C's, plus the whole range of tryptamines, would probably be safer in that combination.
 
Thanks TheAzo! You seem to really know your stuff; that's reassuring considering that I do want to try 2C-T-2 with 4-AcO-DMT. I will take your advice and not dose either at such high doses to start... probably like 15 mg of each to start, and a half hour to an hour in if I'm not sufficiently tripping to my liking, then I'll up the dose by no more than 10 mg of each (if that). I don't know, it just seems like there would be amazing synergy with these chemicals since one is so hallucinatory, "magical", and mind-blowing (the 4-AcO-DMT), while the other is so dream-like, introspective, and ego-manipulative (the 2C-T-2). Somehow, to me at least, these contrasts seem like they'd create a full spectrum sort of trip... especially knowing they're metabolized by different MAO's. It sounds like this might be similar to my 2C-E and 4-AcO-DET trips.
 
Oh yeah, and I'll take heed and not jump into some sort of potentially dangerous trip with methylone and 2C-T-2 (or any other triple release agent for that matter). You're absolutely right, there are PLENTY of better and safer ways to expand the 2C-T-2 trip, like I'll do with the 4-AcO-DMT. Thanks so much for the insight! I really appreciate it :)
 
My favorite psychedelic is 2c-t-2, and my favorite combo, is 2c-t-2, and 4-aco-det/4-aco-dmt, I usually like around 30mg of 2c-t-2 on its own, but when combining, I like to use about 14mg 2c-t-2, and 14mg 4-aco-det, and maybe even some methylone (100-120mg) if I'm with someone special.

By the way, plugging 2c-t-2 is the way to go, 15mg and its crazy!
 
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