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2C Ratios

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Mace2124

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I've managed to acquire a few 2c's in the past 3 or so months. 2cb, 2cc, 2cd, 2ce, 2ci, 2ct7. Each one has their own unique way too them, but I'm now interested in combining. What I'm wondering is, what combo RATIOS do you use with your 2C's? For example I really prefer 18-20 mgs 2ce, so I'm trying to think how much 2ce/2cd I should take together as this is the first combo I'd like to try. Post your perfect 2c combo ratios. and not sure if this belonged in the psychedelic combo's thread as the question is more specific dealing only with 2C's.
 
I'm not so sure about 70% as a blanket figure for all 2C combos. Many of the 2C combos I've tried involve a lot of potentiation and even when I've tried to be conservative with the dosing it's given me a surprise. Sometimes a good surprise, sometimes less good.

I'd say the ratios would depend greatly on which 2C's are involved. Don't have any specific examples off the top of my head but there are plenty in the Psychedelic Combos thread. Not convinced that 2C combos need a thread of their own but will see what responses it gets :)
 
I recently had some uber-niceness after combining 8mgs of 2C-E wth 10~mgs of 2C-D (ontop of acid mind you)....worked very well. Probably could have pushed the 2C-D up to 20-25, but twas content where I was.
 
Shambles said:
I'm not so sure about 70% as a blanket figure for all 2C combos. Many of the 2C combos I've tried involve a lot of potentiation and even when I've tried to be conservative with the dosing it's given me a surprise. Sometimes a good surprise, sometimes less good.

I'd say the ratios would depend greatly on which 2C's are involved. Don't have any specific examples off the top of my head but there are plenty in the Psychedelic Combos thread. Not convinced that 2C combos need a thread of their own but will see what responses it gets :)
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Me personally, would be much less than 70% of my regular dose, probably not even 50% of my regular dose. So, I agree that certain compounds can really give you a surprise in small amounts. Some folks respond well to mixing compounds and aren't as sensitive, but then again it's a YMMV thing. That depends on a few factors; your experience with each substance separately, and/or whether you've built a tolerance to each substance you plan on mixing.
 
^Why did you advise 70% if you don't even do it?

Cauton shoul defntely be paramount in regards to any MAOi compounds in combo.
 
^It's a good ratio with most 2C-x compounds IMO, however it mostly depends on which ones you plan on mixing together. With the exception of 2C-T-7, 2C-T-2, and other 2C-x compounds that are MAO-inhibitors in addition to acting on the 5-HT2; I would say that most people would find it as a good starting point.

I happen to be very sensitive to phens, therefore I figure my doses would typically be much lower than the majority.
 
Sorry for the stupid question, but when you say (for example) 70% of your regular dosage, do you mean, say, 70% of your regular dose of 2c-e + 70% of your regular dose of 2c-d? To result in a comparably strong trip?

Do you find that the body load is extra bad when combining or not?
 
^Paradoxically, I usually find that there's less bodyload when combining 2c's. Especially when 2c-d is involved. One of my favorite combos is 2c-i + 2c-d, because the 2c-d quells the bodyload and overstimulation from the 2c-i.
 
depends on what your going for....

i would like to try like 14mg of 2c-e with about 15mg of 2c-i....

deep and visual i would think...

2ce + 2cb would probably be an awesome mix....

you could dose fairly high with the 2c-e to provide a good "deepness" to the trip while the 2c-b would add a bit more color and light heartedness to it...

try some of the 2c's with MDMA, avoid the 2c-t-x ones though, they have caused death before....
 
The difference in the molecular weights of some of the common 2c-xs(2c-b, 2c-c, 2c-d, 2c-e, 2c-i) isn't much.
Though there are of course 2c-x compounds with significantly larger molecular weights(2c-t-xs and a few others come to mind). This would of course affect the weight depending on which counterion is used in the synth(hcl, hbr, etc.)

I've been thinking for a while now that it would be nice to have a Phenethylamine and Substitued amphetamine dosing chart similar to the 4-Substituted Tryptamine Dosing Chart. :)
 
Anyone tried a low dose of 2c-e, like 8mg's and a low dose of 2c-t-2, like 6mg's? I was thinking of trying this tomorrow. I love the 2c-e for its sheer visual and ego shattering properties, but i'm looking for lighter trip this time around. Anything over 12mg's of 2c-t-2 makes me get too sick physically to explore it in higher doses. I want to explore them together but want to start low, especially with the t2.
 
I have combined 2ce with ketamine, lsd, mdma and shrooms numerous times. the lsd and K combo is unreal. however, 2ce with 2ct7 was the most visual trip I've ever had. Keep in mind that K and nitrous are added to every trip, no matter what psychedelic is being consumed.
 
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