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2C-P HCl - New Experience - Gonna do it again!

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I am a 25 year old male weighing 120 lbs. I do not take any drugs or supplements.

Substances: 2C-P HCl & 15% alcohol (1 shot)

Dose: 8 mg total (2 mg smoked, 6 mg orally)

Mindset & Setting: I'd had a long sleep the night before, and a meal (fish sticks) a few hours before dosing.

Experience: This was my first time trying this substance. I've done many other tryptamines and LSD many times before, but only MDMA and 2C-T-2 (one time) as far as phenethylamines.

Preparation: I weighed doses out with my +/- 2mg-accurate scale. I weighed the amounts at least 5 times to ensure a fairly accurate reading.

I started at 4:00 PM with 2 mg, vaporized off of aluminum foil. That gave me a head rush, and I felt sick from the taste. Felt like that over the next hour, in varying degrees. Tracers in 4 minutes... Not much else besides confusion, anxiety, my mind wondering, and general difficulty focusing. My train of through derailed with ease. As far as visual effects... there were pretty cool tracers (they follow my hand when I move it sort of like smoke) at 2.5 hours, but nothing else. My pupils not dilated. I had some green tea in that time.

I took another ~6mg orally (in a shot of alcoholic egg nog) @ ~7:00 PM. It did not dissolve in the egg nog (even with stirring and poking, it just floated on the surface). Felt strange at 7:30. My neck hurts, but I have horrible posture at work. Perhaps it is just telling me to work on that? That sounds a little mystical, but I don't know why else my neck would hurt. It does not normally hurt. That went away after maybe 20 minutes. At 7:36, I saw rainbows in the halos around car lights. This is many times a "first alert" that a very visual trip is coming on. At 8:00 PM, I got lots of energy and my mood became much better. The visual stuff started too.

I never felt any nausea.

The close eyed visuals were great, although I don't quite remember what exactly I saw, except that fractals and many colors (especially yellow) were involved. There was lots of visual stuff going on. I was glad to see so many beautiful Christmas lights on houses and buildings. Sometimes I had to blink my eyes to be able to see, the visual stuff would just take over my visual field... although that's not exactly how it was, it's hard to describe. Many times I was very relaxed while sitting and felt almost as if I could doze off. I yawned many times after about 4 hours from the second dosing. At 10:00 my pupils were quite dilated. I drank a whole bottle of water (which I bought at a store with no problems) and I still could not urinate every time I went into a bathroom. I went into about 7 stores' bathrooms trying to urinate. I got off the city bus 3 times because I thought I was going to piss my pants. It was like torture. Although I've sometimes had similar problems tripping on other drugs (mushrooms, most notably), it has never been this bad, and I've always been able to urinate once I got to a place where I could acceptably. I ended up urinating after I'd gone to bed and slept for 10 hours. My urine was a darker yellow than normal.

My trip was pretty visual, but mellow at the same time. The visual effects were not intricate patterns everywhere and were not moving, swirling or "breathing" facades or walls either. It was more like floating abstract art that moved with my eyes. I was out in public and kept it together very well. Mentally, there was not a LOT going on, but I did take stock in a few things, and I told myself I need to get my stuff together and get rid of some unnecessary, risky things I do and refocus that energy on productive and life-enhancing projects. I was pretty rational with my thinking too, but could be side tracked easily.

I walked past some cops in the dark and they were kinda out of breath, like they'd just been running and they were talking to each other I guess about what just happened. I walked past them, saying hello without struggle. Their banter was amusing.

I had a lot of paranoid thoughts, especially towards the end of the night, but I am kind of a paranoid person even when sober, and I do not smoke marijuana. This could have just been an enhancement of my natural paranoia and not something to be blamed on the 2C-P experience. I even went so far as to turn off my cell phone and take the battery out when it said "searching" trying to pull up information! I've never seen it do that before.

Briefly, when I got home and was sitting in the bathroom (again trying to urinate) around 1:00 AM, I heard music in my head (that which could be made by synthesizers and percussion instruments) when there was no sound. There was also some wah-ing and distortion of sounds earlier in the trip.

2:00 AM: Not tripping as hard as I was hours ago.

2:16 AM: The crazy visual stuff is winding down significantly.

I could not sleep, but lied in bed under covers until about 8:30 AM, when I finally fell asleep. I woke up once after 5 hours, but went right back so sleep for another 5 hours.

I did not feel hungover the next day.

To sum it up, I felt that it was very nice - a lot like LSD, in fact, and I will be doing it again.

:)

On the subject of a nickname for 2C-P, I suggest "Plexus" be adopted. The reasoning for this is 2C-B has a nickname of "Nexus" and the P in 2C-P logically lends itself to Plexus (which rhymes with Nexus, of course).

Definitions:

Nexus: A connection or the centre of something.

Plexus: A combination of interlaced parts; a network. Or: any complex structure containing an intricate network of parts.

Derived from: Mod.L., lit. "braid, network," from pp. of L. plectere "to twine, braid, fold," used of a network, such as solar plexus "network of nerves in the abdomen"
 
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thanks for sharing, theres not too many 2C-P reports out there. seems like a good trip, i would love to give it a try.
 
Interesting.. one I've never tried but have only had vague curiosity in.

You sum it up at the end saying it's a lot like LSD. But your trip report made it sound much more like the other 2C-x series phenethylamines than LSD to me. In my experience there's a world of difference. Just an observation ;)

Have you tried any other 2C-x besides 2C-B to compare it with?
 
LSD vs. 2C-P

Interesting.. one I've never tried but have only had vague curiosity in.

You sum it up at the end saying it's a lot like LSD. But your trip report made it sound much more like the other 2C-x series phenethylamines than LSD to me. In my experience there's a world of difference. Just an observation ;)

Have you tried any other 2C-x besides 2C-B to compare it with?
I have not done 2C-B or any other 2C compound aside from 2C-T-2 (and that was a small dose).

It reminded me of LSD because of:

1. duration
2. lots of visual stuff (although the visuals were not of the same character)
3. I could still hold my shit together
4. it was great fun
 
Gotcha. I'll have to take a gander at the 2C-P Thread in PD to see how people rate it against these other ones. Not that I have any idea where to get the stuff anyway.
 
My friend took 8 or 9 milligrams of 2C-P. He said it was very visual and interesting stuff. "Stuff was morphing. The walls were melting. The ceiling was melting." He also said it was more like acid than mushrooms (these are all he has done as far as psychedelics). But he said that he couldn't say that it was like anything he'd ever taken before.

We had both combined it with alcohol. At some point in the trip though, I stopped drinking. It just wasn't appealing to me anymore and that is unusual.
 
I wonder why shulgin didn't play with fun oddball things, like 4-(isopropylthio)-2,5-methoxy-PEA or 4-benzylamide-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA.
 
I wonder why shulgin didn't play with fun oddball things, like 4-(isopropylthio)-2,5-methoxy-PEA or 4-benzylamide-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA.
It's been a few years since I read Pihkal, but there were some things he did not pursue because he did not anticipate any activity, drawing from his knowledge of pharmacology. There was other stuff he thought his time was better spent on. Probably for many possibilities, however, what can explain it is just the old adage, "you can't kiss all the girls."
 
Aw, I thought 2C-4-iPT (my abbreviation) seemed too obvious (because the 4-alkylthio's affinities for the serotonin transporter and 4-MTA's strong MAOI action. It was: it's aka 2C-T-4, and apparently pretty good.

My point is still valid though. If the goal was just to find out which PEA derived drugs made fun psychedelics, what he did was fine, I guess. However, if the goal is to learn more about the receptor, more widely varied analogues should be tried first, I think. I'm certainly more interested in what effects substitutents further 'down' the receptor. I think a 4-propylphenyl or just 4-benzyl or 4-phenyl would be excellent substitutents. Not for activity, I bet some might have none, but others may be quite potent.
 
I even went so far as to turn off my cell phone and take the battery out when it said "searching" trying to pull up information! I've never seen it do that before.

exact thing happened to me on 2CE=D

and it's thought that 2CP would be kinda like a more intense version of 2CE. the bigger the substitution, the more potent the drug is.
2CP>2CE>2CI>2CB>2CC>2CD

i don't know what's up with the 2ctx series, as they are larger, but less potent.
 
Didnt even know about this 2c honestly. And I'm pretty up on my 2c's.

Interesting report. Especially that whole cant pee thing.

So this is a 2c with a pretty high potency? Because while you be a lightweight person, 6mg is pretty miniscule. So thats a good thing for a potential buyer I suppose. I like what I be reading.
 
followup stuff

Yes, it is highly potent. I recommend against 12mg+ just because I've never read anything good about doses of more than 12mg and never seen anything good at more than 11mg (dosed at one time).

Most people were fine with 10mg doses, some wanted more than 10mg after they weren't tripping hard as they'd have liked - granted, these people were all larger than me. I did not let them take more though, except on one occasion ( detailed in my other thread here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=460929 )

About the urination problems issue:

Nobody who took it reported to me urination problems. I am the only one as far as I know. All who took it were invariably under 30.

I took a 10mg dose of 2C-P on another occasion and had virtually the same urination problems, but this time I was smart enough to just stay home. I actually was able to piss after about 1 to 1.5 hours to deciding to go to the bathroom about 6+ times. Each time I tried, I met the same problem - I could not go. Finally, when I was able to, I just stayed there and waited instead of getting pissed (so punny!) off, inpatient and just giving up.

It also happens that I have had to wait longer to piss when not on drugs - this has crept up on me slowly over the past 9 months to maybe a year.

So, perhaps the answer lies not really with 2C-P at all, but possibly here: early prostate problems? 25 seems rather young, but I've heard of and seen stranger things. There is a family history of prostate problems, so that could seriously be at the root of this.

The Kidney & Urologic Diseases Info Clearinghouse tells me:
nkudic said:
As men get older, their prostate keeps growing. As it grows, it squeezes the urethra. Since urine travels from the bladder through the urethra, the pressure from the enlarged prostate may affect bladder control.

If you have BPH, you may have one or more of these problems:

»Trouble starting a urine stream. Even though you feel you have to rush to get to the bathroom, you find it hard to start urinating.

Now, I can not be 100% sure of all that, but that is definitely my best guess as to what's going on here.

2C-P the disease diagnostic psychedelic? LOLz-haha, it's an interesting thought... maybe that'll save it from the designer drug grave yard A.K.A. Schedule I! (yeah right ;) )
 
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You said it yourself, you're naturally paranoid. If you're really concerned, though, a doctor could help ease your mind...
 
Thanks chief...

Yeah you never know its possible that the P in the drugs name stands for Prostate and it maybe enhances an existing condition. Joking about the first part, but who knows about the second.

Granted an exam requires some anal play with a doc, but if you're the only guy flashing up symptoms like this, might be good to investigate it.

Still sounds like a really cool 2C. No negative body load then aside from the whole urinary shyness.
 
No negative body load then aside from the whole urinary shyness.
Nope, not really. No GI discomfort. No nausea. No gas. Only two people puked or even mentioned nausea on it (and one of those was too high of a dose). No cramping, no feeling heavy or bloated or overly sluggish or any other "body load" type stuff. No tremor.

I would like to point out that the urination problem happened only 2 times out of 4 or 5 times taking it. I know at least 2 times I was drinking beer as well though (and had no such problems then).
 
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