2C-I with less speed

[Synaps3]

I have tried 2ci before and liked the visuals and the entactogenic effects, but I didn't like how much my heart rate was increased. Several hours after the visuals, my heart was still beating really fast. My question is: What drug is the most similar to 2ci, but without the speed. I was thinking 2cb or 2cc. Which one do you think? Or maybe something other than those two.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

From what I've heard (not in my personal experience, the only 2C's I've done have been 2C-I and 2C-E)...both 2C-C and 2C-B are less "tweaky" than 2C-I.

 

[<SpaceHead>]

There are soooo many 2C-X chemicals. I find most of them have a somewhat stimulating aspect because of the phenethylamine structure. 2C-B is quite pleasant and probably a bit less stimulating than 2C-I, but still stimulating. 2C-C is strangely kind of sedative, out of the 2C's I've tried it is by far the least stimulating. It's nice but can be a bit underwhelming as a psychedelic. In my experience taking a smaller dose of 2C-I with a medium dose of 2C-C kind of smoothed out the stimulating edge of 2C-I and makes the 2C-C more interesting, a beautiful combination in my experience. I think I did 15mg 2C-I and 30mg 2C-C.

 

[Thou]

I too shared the same experience.

2c I was boring and over-stimulating with a bodyload that was uncalled for.

2c-b was absolutely marvelous and flighty with choruslines of angels singing its praises (after a bit of dmt the day before but still...).

2c-e is a magical and powerful introspective tool to be taken in good company or by oneself with a sound resolve. Ego dissolution may ensue but you'll thank yourself later for the expereince. Don't go over 18mg.

2ct-2 Kind of a mixed bag. A little stimulating, but more recreational. Like 2c-b without the body buzz. The one and only time I took it I engaged in a four point suspension after a snootful of s-isomer ketamine. Quite the experience.

I've yet to try 2c c or 2c d but they might be what you're looking for by the tone of your post.

 

[Synaps3]

Thanks for the replies. I think I am going to look for some 2c-b or just stick to the tryptamines.

 

[plusfourpirate]

yeah its a shame 2c-i can be so stimulating, esp since imho the ideal dose for a worthwhile psychedelic experience w full effects starts at the 20 mg range up to 35 mg..which is where the dosage cap ends according to shulgin.

im sure many of you who have had 2ci at 25-35mg will agrree tht its a totally diff ballgame at those dosages. had i never gone above 16 or so mg as suggested i wouldnt care for it like i do. it produces some of the most amazing rainbow tracers at higher doses; almost like a deck of cards spread out if that makes any sense- frame by frame tracers of every color behind everything- and the stimulation is somewhat controllable imo- it can be a very zen- like experience if treated and pushed in the right direction. perhaps try some kratom, or some other calming substance w a full proper dose to really see where this one shines.

to get back to your question,lol- i'd try 2c-b if you can get ahold of it.

if not 2c-c is a real gem. not as potent,no, and some complain about this aspect, but my opinion is if you do the price breakdown its still relatively cheap to get a good trip out of it (50+mg)
Be sure to start off lower with it your first time though. even though most find it very gentle, some almost too gentle, i have a few friends who are super sensitive to it and find 50mg overwhelming.
never forget,YMMV.

ive never had 2c-d, but i hear good things of it as well. 2c-e is not very stimulating for me but it does have some unpleasant side effects, and not really comparable to 2ci,c, or b.

i say try 2cb or 2cc. come back and lemme know wht you think

P4P

EDIT: oh, and +1 on spaceheads suggestion of doing a combo. i find some of the 2c's to really compliment each other well...2c-c imparticular goes well with any of them. maybe take half of your normal 2c-i dose and ~25mg or so of 2c-c and see what happens. 2c-c, as said, is quite relaxing, and very laid back, sometimes to a fault. perhaps combining the 2 will help you find your happy medium you are searching for. i find 2c-c and 2c-b to be a sensational combo...happy researching!

 

[Cyanoide]

2C-C definately. It's almost sedating, definately the most calm phenethylamine I've ever tried. It's not sedating like you're tired, you'll still be able to move around and do things on it. I like 2C-C because of its soft, gentle and mellow feeling without being too cuddy like MDMA. It's the perfect phen for chilling, but it can be quite intense when you go over 50 mg.

I also get sleep easily after 2C-C, it doesn't have any residual stimulation that keeps me awake.

 

[boiledfruit]

2C-C is IME the exact opposite to -I when talking about body load. The visuals can be similar though. Tracer heaven