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2C-I Third Time(20mg) & Marijuana- I died and came back

kbee

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It all started last night. I had some free time, and was ready for some fun. I am semi experienced with psychedelics, I have had about 8 experiences with mushrooms, done salvia and 5-MeO-DMT. For some reason this experience was way more intense than other 2C-I trips, yet approx. the same dose was taken each time(the doses are weighed).

11:35PM- Dose is taken, orally.

12:40PM- I am feeling mild effects, I am mentally prepared for the trip. Good state of mind. Music is key. Feeling slight nausea. Smoking some pot seems like a good idea.

approx 1:30AM- As I blow the smoke out my window, I notice the wind. I notice the clouds moving to the demands of the wind. I notice the clouds changing and morphing at fast fast speeds. At each morph of the clouds, I see something different. Thousands of images fly through my head at an awesome speed. One of the only images I remember is that of a face. A masculine white haired bearded smiling man. I was astonished.

2:30AM- Countless patterns, distortions. I was having a great time. Lying on my bed, this is where things go wrong. I remember drifting off peacefully, and my breathing comes to a halt. I liked the feeling and wanted to keep going. No pain was felt at this time. This is where I got scared and panicked.
I quickly snap out of it and realize what is happening. I jump out of my bed and grab some water. My breathing is shallow and I am numb. I can hardly breathe. I experienced death for as far as I am concerned. (this is hard to explain so bear with me)
I saw life for what it is, kind of like a memory. I saw all of existance. I saw the fears and confusion of people, and the enlightenment after death, the understanding of it all. I felt love, and something about blessed souls. I felt as if my soul had been blessed. Thoughts of heaven and hell were seen as an ancient attempt to grasp the concept of death. I felt liek death was "heaven" and "hell" at the same time. ...All of this while trying to remain alive helpless to it all.

3:00AM-5:00AM- From 2:30 til 5 I was pounding at my chest, keeping in motion, jumping around, being sure to not stay still. If I sat down I would drift off into that place. The scary part was that it did not hurt, it felt normal to die. That scared me. 3 minutes seemed like the longest time. Every minute or so I would be overwhelmed with the urge to pass out. My breathing was shallow. I was gasping for air. I told myself I would die before I called 911 (sad, yes). My face felt different. I would try to control the situation, but when I calmed down I would drift off. I was unsure of how to handle the situation. I felt like an old man about to die.I was not sure how much longer I could go on. Water was my best option. I could not even throw up.
Open or closed, my vision seemed the same. I felt like I knew what it was like to be blind. My vision was also pixelated like trying to look at my clock. One other thing that was quite frightening was the flashes I would see. About 5 times throughout the trip I would have a bright flash come across my vision. It seemed like phenomenons were occuring all the time ,but invisible to the unaided mind/eye.

6:00AM- Drift off to sleep peacefully, not feeling in danger for my life.

3:30PM- Wake up refreshed and with a new outlook on things.

All in all I think this was a good experience for me. I have realized that I do actually have fears. It's a good thing I didn't take a higher dose, which I wouldve done if my friend had let me. I feel like this chemical has infinite possibilities.

Hope u all enjoyed reading this, I suck at writing but I figured I should share this experience with others.
 
Nice report... from what it sounds, this trip did not seem achieve what most people seem to gain from 2C-I? Everyone has different goals and results from the substance, I realize, but this one did not sound as insightful or positive as most of the other trips? Maybe I just suck at reading.
Getting ready to try out 2C-I out for the first time. I am thinking 14 mg....
 
Each trip is sifferent. My first trip also blew me away, and it was more insightful. There were many things I did not mention in this report. I only remembered key things for the most part. The trip did give me some insight into my life and others, and the things around me. I'd recommend 16mg for a first trip. Friends of mine have taken 16mg and been let down. 14 should give you low-moderate effects. enjoy.
 
With 2C-I there seems to be a threshold you can pass into dissociation and a somewhat catatonic state. This happened to my friend on an 18mg dose... for about 45 minutes he was in a trance and wouldn't respond to anyone, but his vitals were allright. When he came out of it he said he was driving a spaceship the entire time and had no idea we were trying to snap him out of it. Before he fell into a trance he seemed very shaken and had the look people have when they know they're about to have a bad trip.

But he's also taken up to 21mg in the past and not experienced such extreme effects.

I have experienced some of these dissociative effects at 15mg (though I've taken 21mg before with no such effects)... it basically felt like my body was shutting down and my senses were getting blurred and distorted all at once. I was able to snap myself out of it.

The moral of the story is this: We already know that with 2C-I, "less is more"... but what a lot of people don't know is that high doses can be very unpleasant. Also, you can easily trip harder off a smaller dose than a bigger dose.
 
Even though the trip may have been rough, do you consider this a positive life changing experience?
 
Splatt- Yes, i do consider this to be a positive life changing experience in that it opened my mind to a new level. My views on death and reality are based partly on that trip. It is possible that i was entering the 'catatonic state', as bd mentioned, but i only breached the surface of whatever it was, not yet ready to take it further.





( response a bit delayed; better late than never ;) )
 
Dude me same way

That is the exact same thing I did. (I pounded my chest) I have never known sum 1 who did that until now. Crazy.
 
it was some weird instinctive way of keeping my life forces in motion, of staying focused, or something like that.
 
Wow u/guys aren't afraid to die...that's great just in case...but what happens after death. Are u/sure where your salvation lies? Jesus is the answer. He loves you and wants u/to have life not death. This drug seems very negative.
 
Why, oh why, should one be afraid to die?

Salvation after death? That seems to imply that one needs some kind of saving before or at the moment of death, which in itself implies fear [of not being saved]. (Ah FEAR, The great ruler of the mindless masses.) When you realize your place in the universe separate from any dogma or social constrainst, there's nothing to be afraid of, and therefore no reason to be "saved".

Jesus is the answer? What's the question again?

And how does this drug seem negative to you mspretty.
 
death is just a different form of existence, in my opinion. i am not afraid to die. it's inevitable. we were born to die. my experiences have all been positive.
 
mspretty said:
Wow u/guys aren't afraid to die...that's great just in case...but what happens after death. Are u/sure where your salvation lies? Jesus is the answer. He loves you and wants u/to have life not death. This drug seems very negative.

Dammit, why is your ass on this board? Whenever you post, it's allways the same old song and dance about jesus - you never contribute a thing worth discussion, only spout your religious crap. I even emailed you on the subject and you could not respond to any of my arguments.

You're pathetic.
 
I agree with bluedolphin, it is possible to go into a "2C-I hole". There can be extremely colorful closed eye hallucinactions. Much more colorful but less dissociating than a K hole.
 
This sounds very similar to the experience I had with 2C-T-2 and marijuana. But it seems that the "strange place" was pulling you more strongly than it was pulling me. I could stay clear of it just by walking around. I knew that if I sat down I would slip back there (in fact even standing still, I was beginning to drift back).

Also I think we interpreted this place in a different way, you saw it as death, but I saw it as something different, I'm not sure what I saw it as but I wasn't afraid of not coming back.

Sounds like your experience wasn't entirely pleasant, so I don't presume that you want to go back there; I might do it some day and see what's on "the other side".
 
My breakthrough dose was probably on the order of 26mg. There's a strange point where the 2ci gains depth and it surpasses the purpose of "tripping." At 90mg orally with 30mg insufflated I had almost no visuals, no body load, no negative effects at all. No positive effects, not on my body at least. It was a purely thought oriented trip. I examined my motives and character and that of everyone else. Very self-discovery kind of thing. I wasn't fucked up, though, not in the consented view of being fucked up at least. I could function normally, looked normal.

It seems that when you reach this point it loses any characteristics we know 2ci by in the 10-20mg range. None of the body feelings, and those seldom pensive thoughts one may have on the relatively "surface" trip at those doses seems to overcome everything else. Almost inside out.

I would never recommend doing anything of this sort, but if anyone has any experiences that can relate it would be interesting.
 
Nice report. Sounds about right on line with my 44mg 2C-I experience, though without all the negatives. :/

Glad you came out all right!

EDIT: Did the 911 call involve hospitalization, police, or other legal/medical involvement?
 
That's really wierd how I usually consume 30-35 migs and you've done 44 and both of us came without the negatives...but most people suggest half our doses and some even get the negatives. Makes me wonder...
 
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