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2C-I: My first synthetic psychedelic experience

CastorTroy

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Introduction
My only prior experience with psychedelic drugs was a year of frequent pot smoking and one 1.5 g dose of mushrooms.

The reason why I wanted to do psychedelics was to expand my consciousness, trying to see if there is some world out there that I can't perceive with my brain that has been programmed by billions of years of evolution. I think that maybe these drugs will show me what the universe is really like. However, going into this trip, I really just wanted to test the water and see exactly what its effects would be like. I didn’t expect to have a life-changing, merge with the cosmos type of trip (although I would like to in the future).

Preparation/Dosing
The scale sucked. I tried to put a card on it for a starting weight and then tare, but it would read 0 with a lot of the substance on it. I had to do use the card as a starting weight, remember its weight, and add the dose to that number. The measurements were really inconsistent and I must have weight it 30 times or so. I believe the dosage was somewhere between 6-11 mg (dissolved into water), most likely around 9. In the future, I will be mixing a large amount with everclear and using volumetric doses to be more accurate.

Set
I woke up at 830 and went to class from 10-12, then I went to the gym for a little over an hour, then went to work(research at school) for two hours. I came back from work (around 5pm) and almost immediately began to weigh it out, but by the time I had actually consumed the chemical I had been home for almost an hour (5:53pm). In hindsight, I don't think I was prepared for the trip. My head was still rushing around from the thoughts of ordinary life (school, work, etc.) I think I need to spend about a half hour to an hour or so just chilling out and meditating before I dose in the future.

Setting
I ate a sandwich and a glass of milk with the chemical, and still felt the onset begin somewhere around T+40 minutes.

4 of my roomates were home, and most of my trip was spent with at least 2 of them around(none were tripping, and I think only 2 of them knew I was). I was somewhat trying to hide the fact that I was tripping, and I believe this is part of what caused me to have unpleasant experiences at times.

The Trip
Let me just say that it is one thing to talk about doing these drugs, and a COMPLETELY different thing to actually do them. I have been browsing these forums for a couple of months now, and I can say that I didin't read a single trip report that could have indicated to me that this is what it would be like.

The only OEV that I got were seeing smoke-like strange shaped shadows in the corners of rooms and the occasional blur or warp type effect on certain parts of my field of vision. When I would close my eyes, it was incredibly bright, and it made me feel really good. (This was really cool)

Most of my trip was quite frightening. My mind was racing in an entirely alien way. Most of this was because I was unsure of the dose that I took. I began to somewhat freak out (freak out is a very loose term for what my mind was going through) thinking that maybe I took 20-40 mg. I had thoughts like “I'm going to wind up with Parkinsons'” etc. We were watching TV and a character passed out, and this made me fear that maybe the drug would make me pass out and maybe die.

Being with my sober roommates was not too pleasant, and I always felt like I just wanted to lie down. So, for about a half hour or so I went to my room, put on The Dark Side of the Moon and laid on my bed. This part of the trip was incredible! I felt really good and I finally understood exactly why so many drug-users listen to Pink Floyd (even though I have been smoking pot to them for about a year, this was what it is about). I can't explain it at all, and anyone reading this won't know exactly what that means unless they've done this drug, there's no two ways about it.

Anyway, I soon went back up to chill (watch some crappy movie) with my roommates. I kind of felt weird to just sit in my room by myself when all of my good friends were upstairs, even if being alone with good music made me feel 100x better. This was the downfall of my trip. However, it wasn't completely bad, there were good and bad feelings, and they seemed to come in waves. On the whole, I felt very paranoid and uncomfortable. I never got too uncomfortable though, as I'm pretty sure that two of my friends that I was sitting with and occasionally talking to didn't even know that I was tripping.

The mind-racing was done by the 4 hour mark, and only felt residual effects of the drug from there on out (upto 3 hours now, and I'm not 100% clear headed).
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Afterthoughts
I am glad that I did not take a larger dose. If my first experience had been any more intense, I'm not quite sure how bad I might have freaked out. While my trip was unpleasant overall, I’m quite sure it wasn’t a ‘bad’ trip.

I am now quite unsure of this drug. I'm not sure if I was just having a bad experience because everything that was happening was new and I didn't know what to expect. I am led to believe this is the case, because familiar things (Pink Floyd) would blast me into a euphoric state. I am not sure if I am able to get cool visuals from it, because I did take more than a threshold dose and I didn't get any type of neat OEVs.

I would like to be able to say that the experience has changed my outlook on life, but I don't think it has. I basically had a more mind-racing, intense, and unpleasant version of my low-dose encounter with the fungus. So, I had already gained all the insight there was to get from this type of experience.

Outreach
I would really like someone to respond to let me know if first experiences can be like this, and if they are do they usually get better as you are more familiar with it?Oh, and I also have the option of DOC, so should I try this a few more times at higher dosages before I go down that path?
 
It doesn't sound like your experience was overly negative. Maybe a little overwhelming, but nothing major. I think if you would have stuck to things you were enjoying(listening to music) you would have had a great time.

I would definitely put more thought into it before trying DOC if you feel that you had a hard time dealing with 2C-I though. I think you'll find DOC much more intense.
 
2C-I in general is a very mind-racing, stimulating experience. I do not like it for this reason, though I have had some very special experiences with it. Maybe a different psychedelic would have made for a different experience.
 
GenericMind said:
It doesn't sound like your experience was overly negative. Maybe a little overwhelming, but nothing major. I think if you would have stuck to things you were enjoying(listening to music) you would have had a great time.

I would definitely put more thought into it before trying DOC if you feel that you had a hard time dealing with 2C-I though. I think you'll find DOC much more intense.
Yea, looking back on it, I believe I portrayed it as being worse than it actually was.
Is DOC intense in the mind-racing aspects? That is the only thing that sometimes bothered me.

morninggloryseed said:
2C-I in general is a very mind-racing, stimulating experience. I do not like it for this reason, though I have had some very special experiences with it. Maybe a different psychedelic would have made for a different experience.
Dang, I was hoping that no one was going to say that. But maybe if I use it in a more meditative state, and do not let negative thoughts get into the loop, it won't be too bad.
 
if you cant handle and have the 2c-i work for you dont try DOC. the duration would probably send you into mindfuck. you shouldnt worry about shit when your trippin like dosage and such. clear your mind and listen to some floyd. i would give 2c-i another go before attempting doc. if you were to take DOC i would say 1mg-2mg.
 
DOC, being an actual Amphetamine, has a more "full" stimulation in contrast to 2C-I. I find the stimulation easy to work with. The psychedelic effects from DOC are somewhat reminiscent of LSD, but I find the stimulation the core part of the trip, at least at around 2-3mgs. However, the duration could become quite overwhelming for someone that is not experienced. The higher levels of DOC would far exceed the intensity of a 2C-I experience, so be careful with your decision.
 
The scale sucked. I tried to put a card on it for a starting weight and then tare, but it would read 0 with a lot of the substance on it. I had to do use the card as a starting weight, remember its weight, and add the dose to that number. The measurements were really inconsistent and I must have weight it 30 times or so. I believe the dosage was somewhere between 6-11 mg (dissolved into water), most likely around 9. In the future, I will be mixing a large amount with everclear and using volumetric doses to be more accurate.

Cheaper scales, even the Tanita, are useless for weighing amounts under 10mg or so. A better method would be to weigh the bag, and take out small amounts until the total weight has been reduced by the amount you want to take. Best would be to weigh a larger amount, and dissolve it for liquid measurement.

Please keep this in mind if you decide to mess around with DOC.
 
Yea, if I do DOC, I am definitely going to mix a large amount and take volumetric measurements. But I believe I will first get more familiar with 2C-I.
 
The "mind-racing" is most likely due to this being a new experience for you. I know I experienced this on my trip (which was with mushrooms). Most likely next time you attempt 2C-I, you will find much less of this since you will most likely be more comfortable with what you are feeling.

Now, in regards to DOC...this one is a bit tricky. I personally took 5mg for my first time and found it very pleasant and easy to work with. I took 3mg to start and at the 3 hour mark was not feeling anything too intense, just something similar to a mild-moderate acid trip, so I took the other 2mg.The duration was intense, but I did not feel as though I was TOO stimulated by any regards. I found DOC to be similar to acid in that you can pretty much form your own trip and do as you please. Most 2C chemicals, for me atleast, are similar to mescaline in that they take you where they want to take you. The only 2C's I account this to are the ones I have tried which are 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, and 2C-T-2. Of course...each person reacts differently, so start low and work up.

Safe tripping and cheers mate!
 
That sounds like a pretty good first experience, especially considering your setting.

It reminds me of my first time with 2ci, about 10mgs as well. It was mostly being around people that didnt really understand themselves, and didnt really understand what happens when you take a psychedelic. So the feelings were like well i hardly understand what im feeling and i know damn sure that these people wouldnt understand me, so i probably spent most of the energy the drug gave me hiding whatever the drug was allowing me to feel/be aware of.

So I think this is probably what you were feeling like around your friends, and then when you were by yourself you didnt have to hide your feelings from anyone so felt safe to just experience whatever you were experiencing.

So it would probably be best to find some like minded friends that really want to understand what happens to themselves and to you when you take a psychedelic, and to dose with them or around them next time. You can really learn the most when you get to talk comfortable about the things that are going through your mind.
And untill you really get to know yourself on a psychedelic its best to avoid people that wouldnt understand what you were experiencing.
 
Ah 2C-I!!

So much has been written on it... I hadn't had any too positive experiences with it until I tried it again last night @16mg. I found that the body load I experienced in the past was almost not there, well, the usual chills and queasy stomach a little (I think it was too empty this time) with the nauseous feelings that come with it, but as we ate some food at the 4 hour point the chills cleared and the stomach also improved.

What I like about it is the silly euphoria and the empathy for characters in sitcoms as well as the intuitive insights I got, although they were fuzzy and not as deep (definitely less cognitive than for example 2c-tfm or even 2c-b) ... at times it felt like "oh yeah, this is what it's like to be perfectly mad, hehe!" but as I have been further down that road in the past on LSD and some other intense psy's it did not worry me. I never got to the point where my ego would wonder whether it's gonna truly go. There was literally no fear on this trip despite a clear presence of the Dark Side, which I was able to look at and later verbalise and verbalise my ideas on the importance of love as the only logical option given the harsh indifferent nature of "reality" . . . a constant effort of re-attaining . . . there was much sadness at somepoint but it was beautiful.

I think I find 2C-i too fuzzy to be a good tool for self-analysis or anything, but I must say I enjoyed it a lot for sharing with good company. Would do so again. Few have been the times where I have combined laughter + seriousness/sadness so effortlessly and enjoyed it so much.

The more I do phenethylamines the more I try to observe physical effects and get to learn about my body. I think it was gloggawogga who suggested that much of the body load is due to one's resistance to the experience.... this may well be so... this time I did not get the stiff shoulders and the headache I got off my 14mg experience two years ago, and I have reason to believe that this may have been tension as much as the drug itself as the time (same batch was ingested this time with no loss potency after all this time. So yeah, even for body load I think set + setting play a major role along with a healthy diet and a careful dosage approach of course).

Sorry wasn't going to hijack your thread and write so much but your report just set me off rambling ;)
 
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