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2C-I first time, full on "trip" yet I not as harsh as Psylocybin Mushrooms or LSD

Ekstasis-//7

Ekstasis-//7

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2C-I first time, full on "trip" yet I not as harsh as Psylocybin Mushrooms or LSD

I just ventured into trying my first ever RC. 2C-I [2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine]. Wow it was quite interesting indeed I found it quite a profound trip. I found it in quite a few ways comparable to a psilocybin mushroom trip. The come on bodily effects I found similar. It also took a fair while to really launch into the full blown trip (approx 2hrs). Overall I found it quite insightful and a meaningful trip. A profound journey into yourself that one can get lost in just like LSD or mushrooms. I experienced many moments of self reflection, quite a few were uncomfortable but not as harshly confronting and difficult to handle as my last few psilocybin mushroom trips and LSD trip a few months ago. I found it vastly different from MDMA. It never really was all that euphoric or peaceful although it felt more like an important journey or meaning full trip and was fairly pleasant although a little confronting at times. It lasted ages much like a strong mushroom trip or a good LSD trip.

MDMA is my current number 1 preference as it fits a lot more with me. I find it really easy to lean from and it helps me feel good about myself. It's the best thing I've found to help with low self worth & depression. Generally, lately If found the tripping experience a little too harsh, confronting and bit hard to handle. Even still every once in a while I get the strong urge to trip and this substance will be right up the top of my list of substances to trip on. I like the way 2C-I seems more mild in nature and isn't so harshly confronting with self refection as other substances I've tripped on. I don't really think this is "turned down" either as I experienced much magical or spiritual insight on this substance not to mention deep thought and nice colourful OEV's. Here's a rough timeline of my 2C-I trip.

(T+ 0:00) Ingested about 15mg of 2C-I powder on empty stomach.

(T+ 0:15) Started noticing first "alerts". Mostly feelings in the body such as some muscle tensions.

(T+ 0:30 - T+ 1:00) Stated feel a some mental effects that I can't really describe. Some muscle sponginess much like the come on to a mushroom trip. I am a bit anxious as I don't know a lot what to expect. Same muscle tightness at times. I check my eyes at around the +0:30 +0:40 but although I feel a little different my eyes aren't dilated. I decide to do some e-mailing and also call a friend. By the end of this time I can feel my eyes getting slightly blurry and my brain thoughts changing. I'm feelin a little bit different and decide it's time to stop e-mailing.

(T+ 1:30)I'm still not sure whether this experience will progress into anything or if it will just stay with some mild body and mind effects. I decide to re-read some more 2C-I trip reports on erowid to find out when the peak should take place. I get caught up in reading a trip report about a crazy guy that took a 100mg dose of 2C-I!!! Wow I found it a funny read! he said he felt quite good then got aphasia (ie. couldn't talk to his room mates and had to resort to hand signals). I decide to have the other 5mg raising it to a full 20mg experience.

(T+ 1:30 - 2:00) I feel a bit sorry for my pet that's locked up in its cage. I feel some mental effects such a little empathy and a little deeper thinking. Most everything else is not really affected. I decide to let my pet out of it's cage and supervise it playing for the next half hour or so. By the end of this time I feel some moments of profound contemplation or important feelings of insight. I put my pet back and realise I'm tripping a bit kinda like a mushroom trip.

(T+ 2:00 - T+3:00) Sorry from here on in time recording pretty much goes out the window. I'm staring out the window at the swimming pool and notice a refection like a swan. I then almost immediately realise it's probably not a real swan. About to move my head to see if it is indeed fake I then remember a saying from Carlos Castaneda books something like why did you destroy that animal (an obvious hallucination). So in short I decide rather that change my focus to see if it is fake (I know am pretty damn sure the swan is a simple reflection from the pool) I decide to keep my eyes fixed on it and see what it does. My eyes go blurry for a moment and everything in my field of vision is somewhat shaking. The swan comes towards me. I feel some profound connection of emotion. I am a little overcome by such a spiritual feeling and experience.

I close my eyes at one stage and see brightly lit visuals. It's like in a full blown manga cartoon! I can see streams of blue light from some over the top blasting weapons and lots of other streams of coloured light and cool stuff including manga style faces. Heh I find the Manga cartoon CEV's quite a funny part of my imagination especially since I have high anticipations of this chemical and considering the where this chemical came from ;).

I go about my business. Unfortunately I realise there is some things I really should get done. As I do some mundane stuff I am struck by moments of insight and self contemplation. Some are a little new and scary feeling at first but not as harshly confronting and difficult as I'm used to on a strong psilocybin mushroom or LSD trip. The first I notice of patterns and full blown OEV's is when I'm in the bathroom. I look at the floor tiles and see the patterns on them pulsing in changing colours and moving in swirling patterns. The patterns are sort or mirrored geometrically onto the white tiled walls and all around. It's great it's like the imagination it going! I still feel pretty clear headed although a I know I'm tripping.

(+3:00 - 8:00) I realise I have fully launched into a trip. I don't bother really keeping much track of time. It is really engaging at pretty full on. Oh yeah did I mention my eyes are really dilated and everything I look at kinda pulses. At one state I realised I was quite hungry and a bit nauseous. I when to eat. I looked at a packet of Rice Bubbles breakfast cereal. Funny the characters Snap, Crackle & Pop all started moving and their hair all pulsed with different colours. Very cool to watch. I decided against eating them... LOL.... I had a good bowl of solid food and there was no problem in eating.

I then proceeded to put on some trance music and do some glow stringing (spinning glow sticks on strings) for the next 3 or 4 hours solid. Also did some other fun stuff like inventing a new bagwah style of martial arts carter. You know kinda like you see Jet Lee doing in the movie "The One" where he's moving in a circle around the room practising martial arts moves. The last hour or two I was still quite trippy feeling but I felt like a fair amount of the insights and profound mental effects had gone. I no longer really had much OEV's such as geometric patterns of everything or the moments when everything would go blurry and moving. I still had large dilated pupils and felt quite tripped. I decided to try and relax more as most of the whole trip I had been pretty unrelated. Probably says more about my life rather than the effect of this chemical. I feel like I've been pushing myself too much lately and I realised it more on this trip. I relaxed a bit. I was coming down somewhat. I felt an urge to take some more but decided against it since I was still pretty whacked. I then tried to sleep. I took a little while to get there as the chemical kept me awake for a bit. The next day I felt quite relaxed and refreshed like after a big LSD trip. I ended up relaxing and sleeping most of the day though. Not sure if that was a side effect of 2C-I or just my lack of sleep catching up on me.
 
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nice report, did u write it the day after? would like to try this chem from what i have heard its a bit more self-involving rather than looking into the whole scheme of things such as LSD or mushrooms open you up to.

anyways look forward to reading future reports from u

peace
 
heh.. "never saw it coming" ... tell me about it. I don't think I needed that last 5mg booster it just took so long during the come up and felt like nothing much was happening that all of a sudden I'm like OMG!! I'm in a full blown trip and I just new from the strength of it it was gonna stay strong like this for hours!

I wonder if 10mg would still launch into a trip or would it just stay at that mild T+ 1:00 - T+ 1:30hr come up stage where nothing is really happening?

psychonaut65 --- well no I didn't report the day after... I slept the whole day... the day after :D . I did the report the 2nd day after.

To be honest I really feel like I wanna try this again... soon but I know it is gonna be pretty full blown and I don't want to find myself in there and be like OMG this is too strong and regret it. Most of all I don't want to find myself tripping bawls and realise then that I have no real reason to trip and am just doing it for the fun of it. That's how I kinda destroyed cannabis for a while. Now I only try use it on special occasions when it feels right and I'm gonna get something out of it. I do feel that I could devote more time to getting into and understanding another 2C-I trip as last time I was too distracted and had too many mundane things that I got caught up with. Kinda need to sit back and take it in you know and I really didn't do much of that...

As much as I have the urge to try this again soon I'd also hate to do it and feel like I didn't get the insight and spiritual experience out of it that I was after because I just did in on a whim.

I will have to see when I can justify another 2C-I research experiment.

please post any opinions on your encounters with 2C-I
 
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Just thought I'd post a little retrospective since I've now done 4 trips on 2C-I. I didn't take notes on the 2nd 3rd and 4th each so I couldn't really post them in their own reports. I found that in general a roughly 20mg trip on 2C-I feels a little light compared with a normal LSD or psilocybin mushroom trip. There is a moment say only for the initial half hour or 1 hour once the peak comes on where it can feel pretty intense if you are away on your own focusing on the trip. On the 3rd trip I was in a dark room and for the first time I experience say only for 15min or so visuals somewhat like on psilocybin mushrooms. Kind of fluoro patters or patterns that stem or mirror from whichever thing you are directly looking at and then cover your whole field of vision. There is I think really only a 2 hours at most of good trip potential (if you are looking for a realy enlightening experience) then it sort of fades into a scatted stage for the rest where I still have a lot of energy and feel whacked but there isn't much (if any) actual tripping going on. The after effect or scattered stage is what lasts the longest and can be a bit irritating.

On my 4th trip I took somewhere around 30mg it was a rough last minute job. I had two bags of approx 20mg and then ate one and a half of the contents. I took it at a rave which was a first time for me. I found it was pretty easy to push away most of the introspective harshness of the trip and just dance. I actually was surprised by how "in the background" the trip was when I was dancing. It was great there was much energy and I felt "strong" enough emotionally that I didn't ever get overwhelmed or feel weirded out by tripping around a bunch of people. I actually was very happy and despite many times getting tired of the music or other let downs I still managed to just dance, dance, dance and really had a great time! I could see many people on pills really not looking good. Anxious, coming down hard, licking their lips chewing there jaws the whole bit. Probably much do to with the music and poor quality venue of the rave. Still I managed well to stay in a really happy mindset and all my worries were gone. I was really impressed that I handled it so well. I found that the energy was great to dance on. However there was quite a few hours of that scattered after-trip stage that I experienced after the trip. It was great to have a good friend to have big chats with.
 
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nice trip report.
btw the pics of your 2ci look different than when i got mine. mine had no crystals, and was more "wet " looking. stuff like that makes me wonder about suppliers purity......
 
those 2ci photos look similar to the stuff i've seen, a very pale white / brown. good stuff! :)
 
Ekstasis-//7 said:
MDMA is my current number 1 preference as it fits a lot more with me. I find it really easy to lean from and it helps me feel good about myself. It's the best thing I've found to help with low self worth & depression. Generally, lately If found the tripping experience a little too harsh, confronting and bit hard to handle. Even still every once in a while I get the strong erge to trip
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that is EXACTLY how i feel
 
Ekstasis-//7 said:
MDMA is my current number 1 preference as it fits a lot more with me. I find it really easy to lean from and it helps me feel good about myself. It's the best thing I've found to help with low self worth & depression.
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Interesting you should say that, as I'm finding the opposite at the moment, some of my comedowns from MDMA have been very negatively emotionally charged, while my most recent tripping experiences have been very positive both at the time and after. I think I need to take a step back from MDMA and reassess the situations I'm using it in again.

Nice report... I'm looking forward to trying 2C-I in the very near future! Were all your trips alone apart from the time at the event? How did you find communicating with others when you were on the drug?
 
Nice report. Ive had an interesting history with 2C-I since i first did it on '01. My first trip I enjoyed a LOT, and it was similar to the one posted here in many ways. A pretty light psychedelic but with some heavy parts... and pretty introspective. After that first trip, I loved the drug and was telling everyone how cool it was.
After my 2nd and 3rd trip, I was neutral towards the drug. It had started making me feel "alien" inside, weirded out even in drug terms.
The final trips confirmed my feelings that I no longer liked the drug at all, it made me feel strange and it felt like It wasnt meant for ingestion. At around that same time, reports started coming out about really negative effects occurring in people who were using it on a "more than occasional" basis. I decided at that point I would never do it again, and still feel that way.

But i remember the first few times, they were cool. :)


thx for the addition
 
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The final trips confirmed my feelings that I no longer liked the drug at all, it made me feel strange and it felt like It wasn't meant for ingestion. At around that same time, reports started coming out about really negative effects occurring in people who were using it on a "more than occasional" basis.
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I don't feel as strongly as you do about this substances' negative effects (or possible toxicity) but still I do feel somewhat similar about this loosing it's "buzz" factor kinda quickly. For me the somewhat negative physical side effects such as slight nausea, headaches and muscle tension seemed to be psychosomatic (as with LSD) rather than an actual physical side effect of the substance. So what I'm trying to say is that the physical side effects I experienced I found I could curb pretty easily if I just relaxed and decided not to fight the direction of the trip. (Much the same as Stan Grof talks about in LSD Psychotherapy)

Although the book's not shut. I have come to the conclusion that the real psychedelic element (ie self exploration and journey into ones own psyche, spiritual experience ect) is a little too subtle with 2C-I for my liking. It may get the job done but it may also not and leave me with an itching to trip again soon to get the level of understanding I am searching for. I am a lone tripper and I find that a substance on a low dosage can seem pretty mild in terms of how psychedelic it is(self exploration, insights ect) when in the company of others then it is usually at a hugely different level the minute you stray away from company and are off alone. So what I'm trying to say is the setting and my own mindset is probably more towards looking and noticing this than most people on a trip. Even still I found you really did need to "search" on a 2C-I trip to get some profound insights. It is not as profound or in your face as I'd like yet I feel hesitant to try a lot higher dosage because there is the post-trip stage is such a scattered state of mind and it lasts AGES!

Although I have not yet experimented with... I hold much more hope for 2C-T-7 & 2C-E in terms of Phenethylamines for insights and a magical trip and 2C-C for some a relaxed and fun night out ;). Not a huge fan of Tryptamines (just generally find it so traumatic!) but I will plan to sample some 5-MeO-DMT in to not to distant future.
 
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Originally posted by pinoline Iodine, sulfur, ethyl ?
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Er... sulphur ?!?
I think you mean iodine, proplyl, ethyl, & chlorine

... And yeah it's all part of a health diet. (not to mention 101 other cleaning uses such as getting that pool sparkling clean) =D
 
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I have had two full 2C-I trips involving one dose of 15mgs and another at 20mgs, and I had one trial with a mere 4mgs out of curiosity.

My 15mg trip was the first of any of my RC trips, and I ended up having a very mystical experience. I found 2C-I to be not unlike Mescaline in that it had a very story-like fantasy quality to it, but it didn't have the raw power or depth. Everything was just beautiful. There was quite a bit going on visually, yet the overall intensity was never overwhelming.

My 20mg trial provided a decent experience, but I think 15-16mgs is a sweet spot with 2C-I. At 20mgs the stimulation was overwhelming. The higher dose just seemed to increase the negative effects without increasing the positives. I did have more going on in my visual field though, but I could not relax at all which chipped away from the quality of the experience. Cannabis helped a good bit. Unfortunately I had no Benzodiazepines. That would have done wonders.

My only other run with 2C-I was when I decided to try taking a threshold dose of 4mgs. This provided a pleasant "rolling" feeling, mixed with some euphoria and mild visuals when combined with Cannabis. I was definitely in a different psychedelic headspace than I would have been with Cannabis alone. It definitely wasn't a waste of 2C-I.

Overall, this is a great chemical, and probably a perfect entry for me into the RC's. I found it to me more direct and less ego threatening than the Tryptamines and Ergoline alkaloids just as you did.
 
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Originally Posted by Ekstasis-//7

MDMA is my current number 1 preference as it fits a lot more with me. I find it really easy to lean from and it helps me feel good about myself. It's the best thing I've found to help with low self worth & depression.
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Interesting you should say that, as I'm finding the opposite at the moment, some of my comedowns from MDMA have been very negatively emotionally charged, while my most recent tripping experiences have been very positive both at the time and after. I think I need to take a step back from MDMA and reassess the situations I'm using it in again.
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Sounds like a wise move. It's good you have the courage to say that. My philosophy is if you keep MDMA special then I think it will stay special ;). In some strange coincidence or twist of fate the few times when I really have not listened to my instinct and just done pills anyway (ie. felt like I really over did it) has been when I've ended up doing pills that are not MDMA (2 times MDA and 2 times MDE) and yeah it sure taught me a lesson 8)..... [eg. 1 time with MDA "How come I'm not peaking from these pills? I'll just take a bunch more that will fix it then I'll feel right... -later- Damn how come I still feel clear headed and now everything is weird and kinda not right and I don't feel happy?" LOL or 1 time on MDE when coming down "Damn why can't I relax?!? why am I so anxious? There wasn't even any empathy! -day later- Damn why do I feel so seedy and emotionally unbalanced! Where's the usual afterglow?] har haha ha:\ ...but I digress, would I should say is that I really believe even the purest MDMA can loose what I find most special about the experience if I'm not careful about when and why and how often I do it... which would really blow because I know how unbelievably special MDMA can be when done right.

Originally Posted by katmeow
Nice report... I'm looking forward to trying 2C-I in the very near future! Were all your trips alone apart from the time at the event?
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Yep all the 2C-I trips were done alone except for the last time at that event. Yeah all the strongest trip experiences on different psyches I've always been alone. Just the way things have happened. Either I haven't had friends who trip or else (by fate or by choice) I've left the company of others when the tripping kicked in. By now I'm well comfortable and used to tripping by myself. Would be nice to have someone on the same wavelength that I could trip with but meh... if it aint there I'd rather be alone ridin tha rainbow;) .

How did you find communicating with others when you were on the drug?
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Weren't you at the same "event" where I was 2C-I'ed to tha max? Ah ya goose ya should have come up n chatted n satisfied your curiosity 1st hand! LOL :D hehe. Seriously though most people I think would have thought I was just off my gutz on biccies. Dialled eyes, just dance, dance, dancin (even ended up bustin' gooves in tha crappy breaks courtyard LOL!) I was chattin to randoms and always had a huge wikkid grin on my face wherever I went! Heh heh. As you may have figured out from my ramblings that I'm much more used to tripping alone so when I do trip around people it is much more foreign territory... I'm much more prone to find it difficult to chat or find I'm more insecure ect ect... but on 2C-I it was really no problem. Only a little weirdness and scatt at the end and that was on a roughly 30mg dose!! Don't worry eh... there was none of that "What did you just say?" "What did I just say?" forgetfulness conversation killer that goes on in in the peak of a descent LSD trip (or when I'm really, really stoned!).
 
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