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2c-i . experienced . I am one of the bad psychedelicers

Mean Girl, feel free to edit or delete my post up above as you see fit... I can't think of any better words to use than I already did, so I'll leave it up to you.
 
I can totally understand how this makes a lot of you hate me

and I know what I did was dangerous



But can you guys understand the madness of trying to understand where the magic of a trip ends and the real world begins, and trying to reconcile the inexplicable with what seems to make sense when you're tripping, and the lengths to which I'm willing to go to make some sort of sense out of it all?

I was still tripping when I wrote the report and that first reply, which I now regret.

But the way I see it, what lets me fall asleep at night is this:

1) we had these sublingual antipsychotic tabs that kick in in about 5 minutes. That means the worst thing that could've happened was that there would be 5 minutes when things were starting to get out of control, before they turned back to normal + sleepy

2) J saw me "measure" out the chemical, had dosed before and knew what 5 10 or 20mg looked like. When I told him "this will be like 20mg" he knew i was bullshitting and I said it jokingly. We then proceeded to dose 2 more times. I would venture that he knew what he was getting into.

3) J ended up saying it was the best drug experience of his life, and this guy is an ex-heroin addict. I planned the dosing correctly. He said it finally allowed him to understand why people trip, wheras before it had never made sense to him.

I agree that in some ways it was totally irresponsible... but then again when you've got a magic button to turn off the trip, how irresponsible is it really? And as far as the driving, M wanted to do it on his own, and I figured it was worth risking my life being a passenger- after I talked to him about maybe going for a walk instead and not driving. I have no excuse for that.

I know no one is ever truly a veteran tripper, stuff can always happen. But I feel after several hundred trips, I'm as close to being a veteran as anyone. And I feel OK knowing that this resulted in a positive, nearly life changing experience for everyone involved (except you guys). I'm not going to do it again.
 
funknsoul1 said:
..if you would read what I said, right in the last paragraph, you would see I think he definitely does not deserve access to RC's at all.. his actions were evil in my opinion. But the solution to that is tricky, there is no mid ground. Keeping sources under wraps and within the intelligent community is the best precaution I think we can take...

We don't have an "I'm a responsible psychedelic user" card yet..... we should.

Having the dea schedule would be out of proportion!

The fact is that these precautions you speak of can only be taken by the user...... There is no way we can stop people from getting these when they're legal.. all we can do is educate. And quite personally, I would really like them to stay legal... seriously. It's a shakey topic... but dilated_pupils: I agree with you... this man's actions speak for themselves, he shouldn't be allowed to go near RC's. -- AT LEAST not dosed by him, apparently...
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Maybe so much of these chemicals shouldn't be available? For example, instead of someone buying a gram of 2c-x, maybe only 4 doses should be able to be bought. Obviously there are people out there who can respect the drugs they have in their possession, but people like the OP just make us all look bad.
 
Growfh said:
but then again when you've got a magic button to turn off the trip, how irresponsible is it really?
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Further evidence of your immaturity and irresponsible decision-making skills. An anti-psychotic is NOT a "magic button." 8)
 
I almost want to call bullshit on this entire thread and suggest that it was written to get a reaction. Until Growfh's last post I was pretty sure that was the case. I'm not so sure anymore.

If it is the truth, then shame on you...
 
You know Its a proven fact that when this stuff happens it generally ruins it for the rest of us. I think Funknsoul, that sometimes people do need to be told what to do. Dont get me wrong, regardless of what you may think of me Im not the DEA and have a nice little collection of psychedelic drugs in my freezer right now.


But, something should be done about people dosing other people with unknown amounts of drugs. If growfth wants to do that to him self whatever. If juicy jay wants to throw unkown amounts of DOI in his system then what ever. IM still gonna say how dumb it was but doing it to other people is just many many forms of wrong. These people are literally puttunf others lives in the palms of their hands. I dont want this stuff scheduled of taken off the market as much as you. But one thing that we have to admit is that kids should not be getting these drugs. ANd apparently education isnt working too much because jay still talks about making DMT in his moms house and Growfth over here justifies his actions.

Id love to hear what else we can do to stop this bull shit from happening because im damn sick of it and really dont want to see these drugs scheduled.And since we are the more respectible people in this community then we should be responsible for doing something. But mark my words if these people continue to use them like a game of russian rulette they will be gone soon. I didnt mean to sound like a pro DEA advovcate Ive been to jail for marijuana before and it sucks. But sometimes Id almost rather stick to muchrooms or mescaline, than to see these kids do this shit to other people. Im sorry im compassionate towards others. I think we are all above natural selection and noone deserves to be hurt.

But growfth man, grow up, or get out of this forum please. And funknsoul sorry I pissed you off im just as mad as you.
 
Id love to hear what else we can do to stop this bull shit from happening because im damn sick of it and really dont want to see these drugs scheduled.
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Just as nanobrain often says...the internet must be destroyed.
 
I think its great the guy came out having the best psychedelic experience of his life...
But I just hope you understand why people are so upset. We're lucky to be priviliged these days as it is. The more irresponsible people begin acting, the more damage will be done to all of this loveiness.

and Dilated_Pupils: A valid idea, but we shouldn't have to be restricted because of idiots... a few doses also implies human consumption. Bulk is just better for long term research.
 
^^^^^ explanation please.

Obviously I made a huge mistake by giving someone else an unmeasured dose that caused him an ugly experience. He's over it, I'm over it. What I did not do was lie to him, or jokingly, tell him the dose that I did not know. Slightly off topic, but o well. I learned, and now DOI is just in my collection never again to be touched.
 
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Growfh said:
1) we had these sublingual antipsychotic tabs that kick in in about 5 minutes. That means the worst thing that could've happened was that there would be 5 minutes when things were starting to get out of control, before they turned back to normal + sleepy
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Care to elaborate a bit more than "these sublingual antipsychotic tabs?"

I would venture that there isn't any such thing..
 
boywonder said:
Care to elaborate a bit more than "these sublingual antipsychotic tabs?"

I would venture that there isn't any such thing..
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There are plenty of antipsychotics out there, but I have no idea about them being given in sublingual doses, every single one I've ever seen has been in tablet form. And a quick search on google doesn't seem to show much evidence.
 
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