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2c-i . experienced . I am one of the bad psychedelicers

Growfh

Growfh

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The night started off as it usually does, in chaos. I wanted to go to a rave because I had never been to one and it seemed like something to try, my friend wanted to go to a boring alcohol/coke party, and we were sitting in his apt having a beer or two. (Red Stripes and Sam Adams Oktoberfest)

I guess I was kind of working up my courage, because I knew I was gonna trip hard. The rave was too far away and I didn't want to go to the party. J came over to M's apt.

I broke out a vial of unmeasured 2ci. This is where I get bad. :o I wanted a full fledged trip, so I poured out a quantity that I knew to be greater than 100mg. I figured that way at least I wouldn't dose too low. I measured out another equal pile for J, who has been known to go absolutely screaming insane on 5mg of 2ci. I told him it would be fine, and that we were only taking like 20mg.

we wrapped the powder up in some tissue and gulped it down. I immediately felt better, as there wasn't a decision left to make, no turning back. It was 11:46 pm

However, I was still nervous for some reason, and I told james that I didn't think we did enough. I poured out another pile that looked like approximately 50mg, split it in half, and we each took that.

We surfed the channels of the TV until 12:45 when we were starting to come up. I said "dude I think this 2ci is old and it went bad, we need to take some more because it isn't working" At the time it was barely kicking in.

James was hesitant, but he is always down for free drugs. I dumped out another pile that looked like around 100mg, split it in half and we each ate it.

About 10 minutes later I was laying face down on the floor wondering what the fuck I had done. Pulses of energy hit me like stormy waves crashing into a boat. With each pulse I got an odd sort of triple vision, exactly like I was watching a 3d movie and took off the glasses to see the red and blue on either side of images.

Luckily, I always feel like that when I trip, so I wasn't really too worried.

We watched wrestling for about 2 hours (great) and talked among ourselves. When the visual effects became so great that the TV wasn't really capable of keeping our attention, we got in Mike's car to cruse Lake Shore Drive. Mike had taken a slightly more reasonable dose of 60mg or so, one time only.

We ended up on the beach of lake michigan. Here Mike and I experienced an odd effect where we saw a very specific hallucination in the sky at the same time. It was very stable and persisted throughout the night. I don't feel like describing it.

We got off the beach at about 3:45 am, and cruised around downtown till 5 or so. Driving is bad don't take this as some sort of endorsement of drugged driving.

We talked a little bit about what it would have been like if we had taken DOC, with its 24 hour duration. J described his state as "the perfect high" and said he could easily handle 24 hours of it. I was happy that he had a good time, I feel like he rode my vibrations for the night and I kept him sane by being calm and aware.

We ended the night back at M's apt. We all laid down, and went to sleep. I find it is pretty easy to fall asleep on 2ci. My dreams dealt with reconciling duality perception with reality, spiders, and rainbow numbers. Hmm... which emoticon? 8( =D 8o

Overall the trip left me feeling like a human's full time job is appreciating every moment, trying to be honest in all things, and cultivating awareness and sobriety. I don't feel like I'm going to be tripping again for a while. :)
 
WTF? you took about 200mg of 2C-I and drove around for hours? i call bullshit on that, i dont think you could find your way out of the room on that dose.
 
You are a fucking asshole, goddammit. Feeding someone 100mg and telling him it was 20mg?!! Fuck off and die, dick. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. It doesnt matter whether or not, after the fact, he liked his experience. What you did was so fucking unbelievably immature, irresponsible, and despicable.

And you're proud of this, too.

:X
 
I believe that was worse that my stupidity.....

I sure as hell wouldn't LIE and tell this person taking 100mg or more that it's only 20mg. That was just plain retarded....

And driving on it is another dumb shit thing to do.

Wow....
 
It was a cowardly thing to do. I needed to have someone with me on my same level of trip.

I justified it to myself by having sublingual antipsychotic tablets on hand.

I can see this as being a banable offence. I'm not exactly proud of it, but it really happened. The dosages I reported are the max dosages we could have possibly taken. M said he thinks we took closer to 100 mg.

I feel immature and irresponsible, but not despicable. Am I proud? Well a little bit- maybe its just an effect of the drug. I made judgements and they turned out all right.

You can totally judge me, but you're doing it without knowing the whole situation.

Sometimes ya just gotta find out what life is worth, and I know J agrees with me on that and he knew thats how I trip. Don't think I'm trying to defend myself here, I'm just trying to let you know where I'm coming from.

I guess I'm just rambling nonsense. There certainly aren't any excuses. But I wouldn't take it back.
 
Part of friendship is being able to trust the other person. Especially with something like powerful experimental drugs.
 
...you don't deserve access to unmeasured amounts at all. somebody should spoonfeed you psychedelics if you're going to act that way... actions like this are what cause accidents, which leads to incredible negative attention for the whole scene. so please, for the sake US, who actually APPRECIATE these chemicals, wise up or get out.. anyone in this scene would condemn your actions as not only stupid, but cruel.

anyone who is cruel with psychedelics is the exact person who should never touch one, and I don't give a fuck about what your motives or excuses are. there's a saying about a certain road being paved with good intentions... i think you took a step down it with that one buddy.
 
What the fuck? Was my 2C-I something else, because 15-16mg always produced a full blown trip. I never wanted to go higher after I tried around 22mg. Or is it just all impure now on that market?
 
shit I got a good trip from 7mg of the stuff, didn't last a very long time but it was worth it. ALWAYS start low man. Making someone try a high dose of something is not cool... But if you don't know how much you took then it really doesn't bother you.. I knew I took 27 or 28 mg of 2c-b-fly and I knew that was high and it really took a toll on my emotions knowing I took way to much!! How would you have handled it if your buddy wigged out on you?? Whats worse is when someone starts to wigg and you try and calm them and the persist to say "hey man wtf are you doing im ok" im not wigging" then you start to think "I must be the one wigging out" Got to hate that!
 
24mg had me blind with geometric patterning in my visionary field and my body was so numb I could not manage to feed myself water through a cup, much less drive around. This is WITH a tolerance. I highly doubt anyone would be capable of driving around on anything beyond this...much less 3x-5x beyond it.

Feeding somebody a much higher dosage than they are thinking is definately bunk. Perhaps we don't know the entire situation but fuck, I don't care if somebody is my worst enemy I would not want to put somebody through the psychological terror that could result from this.
 
Pretty fucked up, but Jay, you were just as bad so dont go shedding blame on other people. Growfth and Juicy jay are the types of people Ive been ranting about for ever. Theyre just kids who have no Idea what life is worth and what life is worth to other people. If you dont think youre friend cares if you give him 100mg of 2ci, then why dont you think about their family and what they would go through if something happened.

This kind of shit makes me think that research chemicals should not be available to anyone. I mean for fucks sake, if they were scheduled they wouldnt be for sale on the net and thes dumb fucking kids probably couldnt get them.

and the fact that you post this bull shit on the internet because maybe you think one person is going to think your cool is retarded. For naow on if you dumbfucks are gonna do this shit why dont you just keep it to your selves and your dumb cirlcle of sophomore friends at joe schmoe high school, and let us read about it on CNN when you kill your self because you think your stuck in a trip. I know someone who did this on ACID.
She came home after a night of partying on 2 hits of acid in 9th grade and her parents thought she was kidnapped or something and called the cops. when she got home she thougt she was going to jail or something and stabbed herself in front of her parents and the cops. So please grow up, or YOU WILL FUCK UP ONE DAY. IM ONLY PLAYING THE ODDS
 
I think as a punishment Growfh should have his avatar banned.
I cant figure out what it is, looks like a big bug crawling on someones finger. It pisses me off

And as far as what you did, it just makes you look like a complete idiot.
 
Splatt said:
What the fuck? Was my 2C-I something else, because 15-16mg always produced a full blown trip. I never wanted to go higher after I tried around 22mg. Or is it just all impure now on that market?
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20mg is my perfect dose, and I'm over stimulated there, I can't imagine taking that much more. To Growfh, I think what you did was probably the most immature and irresponsible thing I've ever heard of. You should have gotten the weight of the 2c-i as a whole (if not, individual hits) and placed it in a solution so you knew exactly what you were dosing. People like you are the ones that ruin it for the people that respect the drugs they encounter.
 
good evening everyone, you now have 24 hours to all edit your comments to something more constructive and no calling people shitsticks or whatever colorful term you decide to pull out of your ass. i will do it for you afterwards if it's not changed by tomorrow when i get home from work.

despite any potential validity of your points, name calling nullifies it.

tia,
meanie :)
 
Beenhead said:
This kind of shit makes me think that research chemicals should not be available to anyone. I mean for fucks sake, if they were scheduled they wouldnt be for sale on the net and thes dumb fucking kids probably couldnt get them.
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That's not the solution. Darwinism (people acting dumb in this case) will be true with ANYTHING. If they weren't available, us people who aren't dumb couldn't get them either... and that would be a crime. We deserve to explore our minds. So, I really really disagree, and am actually somewhat fired up and angry that you said that. -- You sound like the fucking DEA!

1.) People will fuck up.. period, that's life.. There are many drugs that we deserve to have, and STUPID people should not be the reason for scheduling them.

2.) Education is the key. If you want to take the DEA's side of saying they should be able to tell us what we can and cannot do because of a few stupid people, then I despise you. -- You know, people smoke cigarettes which are readily available and kill themselves all the time because of it -- Should that mean cigarettes should be scheduled? FUCK NO, because that isn't freedom.

I believe in freedom, even if some people exercise that freedom in a way that is harmful to themselves - ODing someone else though is just evil, and nobody should be free to ever do that, like the OP did. We are all born onto the same earth, with the same amount of confusion.. we are born equal. NOBODY should be able to tell me or you what we can put into our own bodies!....... I'm sorry for being so heated, but your comment made it seem as though you would rather have the DEA telling you what's right and wrong. Wouldn't you rather make your own decision?

I would never support people acting so carelessly with such sacred chemicals.. but the cure for stupidity isn't taking things away... it is education... and that is why your solution is far too extreme... why don't we try EDUCATION instead of just banning everything?! You wouldn't remove the stove in your house because a child touched the hot eye... You would teach him "fire hot."

--In my earlier post I did say this kid definitely doesn't deserve access to these chemicals, seeing his actions. - My stance on freedom doesn't even apply to this thread OP because he dosed someone else carelessly - evil, evil, evil... but you've hit the other extreme by saying they should be scheduled.

This is a topic where it is hard to find a safe middle ground, I mean, we don't have "I am a responsible psychedelic user" cards to carry - although i wish we did - , so there isn't anything we can do about incidences like this... except beg and plead people to become more educated, and, of course, do everything we can to educate them ourselves. - Especially when it comes to not being a complete asshole w/very powerful chemicals.

--I will say again, however, people acting irresponsible ARE going to have our freedoms to these chemicals taken away. Until you can wise up man (OP), you don't deserve to handle anything of this nature (in my personal opinion)... for the good of the scene, i'm sure we would all just like to ask you to stop, read, consider karma (because you did wrong man), and then maybe delve back into things - after becoming educated. Don't ruin it for everyone. To some of us, these are a window to extraordinary consciousness, which is very dear and precious.... Please respect that, even if all you can see is recreation.
 
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funk you're taking it way out of proportion. Honestly, I don't know how you could read this guys trip report and think that he should be allowed to go near RC's at all. I don't agree that they should be illegal, but there definitely should be more procautions for the use of these wonderful drugs.
 
Do you have any ideas for precautions in the way you speak?... All I can possibly think of is keeping the good sources under wraps, which most of us do...but of course, things still get into the wrong hands..if you would read what I said, right in the last paragraph, you would see I think he definitely does not deserve access to RC's, at least until he gets a lot smarter.. his actions were evil in my opinion. But the solution to that is tricky, there is no mid ground.

We don't have an "I'm a responsible psychedelic user" card yet..... we should.... of course that's just a good thought :).... obviously impossible, but man it would be nice.

Having the dea schedule would be out of proportion!

The fact is that, at this time, these precautions you speak of can only be taken by the user...... There is no way we can stop people from getting these when they're legal.. all we can do is educate. If the DEA were in charge and making the precautions for us... that would be so much worse. I mean, their favorite word is "NO". And quite personally, I would really like them to stay legal... seriously. It's a shakey topic... but dilated_pupils: I agree with you... this man's actions speak for themselves, he shouldn't be allowed to go near RC's. -- AT LEAST not dosed by him, apparently.
 
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