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2c i and 5 meo dalt

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smitty823j

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I just received 5g of both. Supplier has always beeen dependable but I have a problem this time. Neither vial was labeled. Just spoke with supplier..apologized but won't take them back.
I think I know which is which but would like a second ..or more..opinion.
One chemical is denser and a bit fluffier than the other..the denser one takes about 1/3 the space as does the other.
I have a known supply of 2c I and will conduct a taste test but would appreciate opinions
 
The Chemist said:
what makes you think we'd know any better than you?
besides, we don't do ID's here.
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I wouldnt be here were it not for folks who kknow better than me..experience being a good teacher. As for ID I see your point. Consider this strictly a question about mass
 
Nobody can tell you. Depending on how they were recrystallized and/or powdered the density can vary widely. And judging by the fact the vendor won't tell you shit, I'd say it's a possibility that they're something else than 2c-I and/or 5-meo-dmt...

The only reliable way for a layman to test this stuf is to get or make a set of testing reagents. Marquis/mecke/mandelin at least. Learn some analytical chemistry. Or buy a GC/MS. I wouldn't suggest you start smoking shit off foil to test it; that's a great way to end up freaking out...
 
Thanks...you have a point.
Perhaps I will just toss them and chalk it up to the cost of being a researcher
 
lol. reagent tests are definitely part of the cost of being a researcher, as are a scale and airtight containers. but tossing out chemicals?
 
I just assumed that those types of tests were the pervue of someone with more of a chemistry background than I possess. Could you educate me?
 
I agree with what others said before there's no telling what's in there for sure. But 2C-I is generally tan in color kind of looks like fine sand. But as stated above recrystallization can lead to misleading results. Considering that 5-meo-dalt appears to be mainly freebase your suspicions are probably correct. Forget the taste test though, you could wind up ingesting way too much especially out of 5g. Drop the smallest amount from tweezers from each into 2 separate glass' of water that are only full at the bottom. Swirl it around for a bit and you should have your answer. 2C-I will dissolve quick. 5-meo-dalt should be insoluble in water.
 
Yep, I wouldn't throw them away. It is strange that vials came unlabeled, but at worst case they contain something inactive - I doubt vendors would send something toxic and life-threatening to their customers.
So, just get a reagent kit. If chemicals pass reagent testing, then biotest them, starting low, of course.

Though what I wrote is less "harm reduction"-ish than just tossing out, but the idea of someone losing 5 g of 2C-I and 5 g of 5-MeO-DALT frightens me.

^ I am not sure about most 5-MeO-DALT being a freebase, all vendors I came across sell salts;and hydrochloride is perfectly soluble in water. But OP won't lose anything by performing this test: it can't give wrong info.
 
You have a scale right? Shouldn't 10-25mg be a safe dosage for both compounds? Just test it out then label it.
 
^ 10 mg is safe dose for both chemicals, and if you know that there is 5-MeO-DALT and 2C-I, it is a good way to dinstinguish. But actually OP has 2 vials of (white) powder, it can be something completely different.
 
Went ahead and ordered a marquis reagent kit. Just so I understand..a tryptamine will not react with the reagent?
 
Unless you think you received something other than 2C-I and 5-MeO-DALT you can safely take 10 mg of each. If you think you might have received something else you can try 500 mcg and titrate up until the compound is active. This should actually be a precaution but you can choose to do this or not depending on your source.
 
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greenmeanies said:
lol. reagent tests are definitely part of the cost of being a researcher, as are a scale and airtight containers. but tossing out chemicals?
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You have a point. Never realized that it was so easy to test. I feel especially foolish since I am such a big proponent of good scales and liquid measurement for safety. Thanks.
 
dont guess you have 2c-i and 5-meo-dalt in those circumstance. you should be refund then the one who sold this, destroy both.
 
Thanks Lawrence. Had I not been educated as to my ability to obtain and use reagent testing I may well have tossed them. I have had multiple dealings with this vendor...and though I am disappointed with their initial decision about replacing the chemicals, the person I spoke to has agreed to escalate the matter to the owner. He also assured me that their records show that the two chems shipped to me were the chems I ordered. I have been dealing with these folks for over a year and...though it it a big one..this is the first hiccup. I am sure enough that I have the two chems I ordered that I won't toss them. The reagent testing will be the final determinant.
 
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