2c-i & 4-aco-dmt combo

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Hey all,

I'm going to be tripping with my wife in a few hours. We've both done 2c-i and 4-aco-dmt before, and neither of us have ever done a combo, so I've decided to attempt the two together after reading lots of good reports.

On our previous 4-aco-dmt trip, my wife took 16mg and I took 20mg.
On our previous 2c-i trip, my wife took 18mg and I took 23mg.

I'm hoping to pump things up a notch, but not too much (particularly for my wife). What I'm thinking is:

Me: 20mg 4-aco-dmt, 10mg 2c-i
Wife: 16mg 4-aco-dmt, 5mg 2c-i

I.e., same 4-aco-dmt doage as previously, augmented with threshold amount of 2c-i. Any comments about these doses?

Also, I'm thinking that we eat the 2c-i first, and then eat the 4-aco-dmt 45 minutes later. Thoughts?

I know that others have asked about this combo before (I've been doing searches and reading as much as I can) but would still appreciate any personal advice.

Thanks!

 

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Just for the sake of others: I ended up doing 20mg 4-aco-dmt and 12mg 2c-i. The trip was awesome and unlike any other trip I've had, but it wasn't enough 2c-i. In fact, during the 4-aco-dmt comeup, I nearly fell asleep, and for an hour I was in a complete trance, just content to stand and stare at whatever was in front of me.

Next time I'm diving straight into a full dose of each.

 

[zarik]

can you elaborate on the effects? and what you suggest to up the 2ci on?

 

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The effects were dominated by the 4-aco-dmt at the dosage I took, hence my regret for not taking a full dose of 2c-i along with it. Nevertheless, the 2c-i definitly added something special to the mix.

The first hour or two of the trip (blending in from the comeup) was very different from the rest: As I said, I was content to just stare off at nothing, with no/little thought, whilst in a DMT-like trance state. If I closed my eyes and continuously let go of myself, the feeling was an exquisite total body euphoria. At this point, the visual effect of the drug was like no other psychedelic I've tried so far: colors were split off from all objects in a way that reminded me of 3D drawings that needed glasses to view. It reminded me more of what I would expect ayahuasca to be like, rather than mushrooms or other psychedelics that I've tried.

We listened to a lot of music on the trip, and music was very distorted (and fantastic). We also watched The Wall (based on the Pink Floyd album) and that was insanely fantastic as well. Both my wife and I got a lot from the movie and connected its messages with much else that has been going on in our lives over the past few weeks.

The trip was a trip of contentment for me (probably because of some other things that have been going on for me personally lately): There was a book on our coffee table, and I saw infinite beauty at the very infinitesimal end of the tip of the serif on one of the f's in the title on the book cover. It occurred to me in a moment that I (and most people I imagine) have baggage of shame surrounding being content (not unrelated to the theme of The Wall). In a flash I realized how content, and even ecstatic, that I can be with pretty much anything and everything - when the right approach is used. I could probably write quite a bit on the topic, but I'm not sure I can capture what I'm trying to say any better than this. It's something I still have to explore further.

The combo seemed totally harmless to me. My heart and mind are still filled with love, the day after.

 

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Thanks for the input; I plan on doing this combo soon, still undecided on a dose but this helps.

But The Wall... not for me while tripping!

 

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But The Wall... not for me while tripping!

Just curious: Why? Because you'd rather be interacting with the environment rather than watching a movie? I could certainly understand that. Nevertheless, I think there's a lot to be gained from watching this movie while tripping. The story being communicated connects directly to the experience (obviously) in many ways... I should mention that we watched it on the tail-end of the trip.

Follow-up to my mini-report above: The following night, after smoking weed and trying to get some sleep, both my wife and I experienced residual stimulation and weird heart palpitations. These didn't really seem too worrying, but they were annoying. I assume this is coming from the 2c-i (?), but I'm surprised at such a low dose. Maybe it's the combo... Just putting this out there for the sake of harm reduction.

 

[DwayneHoover]

^Thanks for being a pioneer and for the report!

I think the thing against The Wall is just that it is such an aggressive downer of an experience. Very trippy yes, but in the story it's pretty much all horrible negative violent stuff and the psychological implosion of Pink. When it first came out I went to see it tripping and it was super intense to watch like that, and rather cathartic, but I left the theater feeling rather mentally and emotionally beaten up. I will say my ordinary normal boring life seemed pretty sweet and wonderful by comparison after that!

 

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Yea, I can see that. The imagery is intense, and I'm sure many would find it difficult to handle while sober, let alone tripping. (I had never seen it before, and had no idea what I was getting into.)

Nevertheless, the message is one of hope and growth. Just like in the psychedelic experience itself, if you're willing to face your demons, there's a reward for you, like no other, on the other side. If, on the other hand, you're too scared to look your demons in the eye, expect their strength to grow, and for them to control your life (without your knowledge or understanding).

But yea, watch it sober if you have a history of freaking out on psychedelics.

 

[kingme]

hello!

thanks for the report!
was wondering if you could post maybe a timeline of the trip... to see when you dosed each and how long the trip phases lasted...