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2c-i ... 1st time ... Appreciation for the spiral universe

psychoblast

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A friend got hold of some 2c-i, and as I am the usual guinea pig for this stuff I decided to try it out. Here's my report:

Me: Male, 170 lbs
Setting: My house, alone except for 2 cats
Dose: 16 mg oral, followed by 4mg insufflated at t+2:00

6pm: I swallowed 16mg 2c-i (encapsulated) and smoked a little weed and had a little alcohol. This was right after eating half of a Turkey Jack (pretty good IMO). I was debating whether to do this on an empty stomach, but I was too hungry so I settled on eating half.

7pm: Not feeling much of anything, but I'd read this peaks around the 2 hour mark so I kept waiting.

8pm: Still not feeling much of anything. Somethiing is there, but very little. Not much visually or mentally. I figure the dose was too small because I should be feeling something by now. I don't want to take more orally because I don't want to be up till 3am. I read that the effects are shorter if insufflated, so I decide to bump some more. I decide on 4mg as a safe dose that is likely to reveal the effects of 2c-i. Also smoke more weed.

9:00: Okay, this stuff is kicking in strong. On 2c-c, I noticed a wavy swirliness to things I would look at, like a picture or the tv. But now it is like all of reality around me is swirly. I get some interested spatial distortions, feels weird when I move around, sounds are intense.

9:30: I am channel surfing on the tv, seeing if there is anything that will "fit" my mood on this psychedelic, like a trippy movie or something. My legs are jittery, my breathing feels a little off, definitely a speedy quality here. Anyway, as I'm flipping I find myself focusing on the sexual aspects of the tv programs, and find myself looking for a program that has attractive women on it. I find something on VH1 about "bad girls" and find myself captivated mainly by the sensuality of the attractive women on tv. This is a surprise, as I had not heard 2c-i described as a sensual drug though I know 2c-b has that aspect.

Anyway, I decide to explore this aspect with an adult video. Interestingly, I am not touching myself, but only watching and I still feel a growing intensity to the sensuality, like I might orgasm from that alone. And I am sort of engrossed just in the interaction between two people having sex, like it is sort of a plot in and of itself, the plot that underlies every romance movie, etc., etc. And if I close my eyes, I get very vivid, colorful visuals. I notice that I am more moved by the noises of the movie than watching it. The sounds of a woman moaning in pleasure (real or fake?) hits me harder than seeing the action on tv. Anyway, it mesmerizes me for like 30 minutes. Then I feel somewhat overwhelmed by it, so I decide to do something else.

I start playing an online first person shooter game, and that is a lot of fun. I probably play worse, because of all the swirling in my vision, but my scores are okay and I feel a deep satisfaction in the game and the team play more than usual. I start laughing out loud at one point because it seems so fun to me. I probably played that for a couple hours, but at this point I have trouble keeping track of time.

Interestingly, I didn't bother turning off the video, so in the background I hear the sounds of sex as I'm blowing people up. It created a very interesting atmosphere. For some brief moments I felt like my body was a little confused in that shooting my gun in the game started to feel like a tiny orgasmic release -- not physically, just mentally.

After that, it was around midnight and I turned away from the computer, thought I might be coming down, smoked a little weed, noticed the video still running (it should have ended, but the dvd was scratched, so it kept skipping back to an earlier scene and replaying it). I sat down to have a smoke and a rum & coke (to calm myself somewhat). Relaxing my muscles felt very good. I could still get enthralled just watching this video (for the record, I think it is itself a rather trippy porn called Eros that I recommend, uses jungle drum rhythms in the background rather than cheesy porn music, has elaborate settings and some very artistic moments...seriously.)

Anyway, I come to notice my cigarette and my drink and I wonder if I want any more of either. It occurs to me that every substance we put in our body either extends our life or diminishes it. Basically, everything is fuel or poison. I find it curious that I am voluntarily putting poisons in my body, essentially saying "here, take 3 minutes off my life...take an hour off my life...take 6 seconds off my life...here, kill some liver cells...here, kill some brain cells." I can't bring myself to smoke or drink after that, and I consider resolving not to put any poisons in my body in the future.

Okay, sick of the porn, I switch to regular tv and find Reverb on HBO showing Staind in concert. I'm more into happy jam band music, but I find this captivating. I see a similarity in the catharsis that this type of music brings as to the music I usually listen to. Whereas the concerts I go to make me feel like we are coming together to express joy at existence, watching this makes me feel like the concert goers for Staind are coming together to express rage and pain, and to find beauty within it.

Anyway, if I close my eyes, I get these fantastic visuals, part of which are all these shiny blades pointing right at me, morphing into spiral blades, each covered with tiny spiral blades coming off of them, and each of those tiny spiral blades is covered with more tiny spiral blades and so on until it is the most complex and amazing and beautiful (if kind of creepy) instrument for cutting and rending. And I sort of feel like these blades (which represent the musical notes) are sliding through my brain, creating sensations that are not unpleasant but different. Like there is joy in feeling something, even a blade through the brain.

I start thinking of what I would write for lyrics if I wrote a song like Staind. I think that the common element is the people coming together have pain inside and the music helps them appreciate that darkness and pain have their own beauty. In fact, complexity is beautiful, perhaps the most beautiful thing. And complexity is inherently a mix of pleasure and pain. Pleasure alone is flat and uninteresting. The universe is this incredibly complex piece of art in progress that would not be complex and beautiful without the pain and the pleasure, the darkness and the light.

Anyway, I start thinking of these lyrics...not poetic, just very matter of fact truth as I'm presently thinking it. I think of lyrics to a Staind-like song going something like this "You like this song, because something is wrong with you. You are a piece of shit. And so am I, both tiny specks on a universe shat out by god. But that is okay, because we are gods, too, and we create universes when we cum." Or something like that. Interestingly, right after this, Staind does their song Outside, which I find to express an amazingly similar message, "I'm on the outside, I'm looking in, I can see through you, see your true colors. Inside your ugly. Ugly like me. I can see through you, See the real you." (I might have messed up the last line.) The point being the truth is we all have this complex web of darkness and light within us. We all have bad stuff inside that makes us ashamed. But we all have it, so we should not feel ashamed about it, and without it we would not be as beautifully complex and we are lovable even with that darkness and one thing people seek in life is to find others who will accept their own darkness and still love them. I think a lot of bible-thumper types try to pretend darkness doesn't exist within them. We play these roles to make ourselves respectable, attractive, etc., but we are hiding the truth and that is not the way to true happiness.

Well, anyway, then I switched channels and watched the last half of Heavy Metal which was pretty intense and cool. For a while I felt like the 2c-i was an entity or collection of entites and when I took the drug, it was their moment to experience the joys of the five senses through my body as their vehicle. The 2c-i was enthralled with the novelty of colors and sounds and touch, etc... I had had a previous notion before on 2c-c, that I was letting the 2c-c experience the universe through me. I wondered if this is why mundane things can seem so foreign and odd on psychedelics, because they ARE foreign and odd to the entities that are temporarily inhabiting our brains and that sensation spills over onto us, the hosts.

I played with the cats for a while, too. They seemed friendlier than usual, particuarly the new cat who never let me pet her and this time came over to me and was very affectionate. Like they could sense I was in a place that perhaps was more familiar to them.

Oh, at one point I got out a hula hoop I had made since that is something I saw people do at a music festival that I thought was really cool. I found it very pleasurable to work off some of the energy I had, the speediness. And my sense for the hula hoop was better than ever, I was able to control it much better even to the point of using my hands to do some tricks.

Unfortunately, the night went on much later than I'd anticipated I don't know if it is the strength of the combined doses I took, or if 2c-i lasts just as long insufflated as when eaten, or if I just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how long a 2c-i trip lasts. I went to bed around 3am still tripping pretty hard, listened to some music and eventually fell into a restless sleep. The next day, I felt beaten and worn out, with a slight headache.

Anyway, this drug was both a very sensory-intensive experience, as well as seeming to have mood enhancing qualities, and it also brought out a lot of philosophical reflection. It did remind me of 2cb (which I only tried a couple times) in the visuals and mood-enhancement. I don't think I ever got to a real plateau of joy / constant happiness, which plateau I have reached on 2cb. But I did 2cb at a music festival, and the setting could have made the difference.

Oh, no real problems with nausea, I ate some food around 2am and was engrossed in the flavors and textures. I even ate a piece of lettuce by itself to better focus on the sensation of the fibers crunching between my teeth, the sense of fueling the body. Overall, a good time. Next time I'd probably prefer doing it with other people or with my girlfriend.

~psychoblast~
 
Nice report. You should have given it more time to develope before you snorted more. I notice the most intense mental effects around the 3rd hour or so with 2C-I and the most visual effects perhaps an hour or two after that. Then there is a fairly rapid comedown by the 6th or 7th hour. By the 9th hour, litttle remains. At least with 16 mg orally. But for me it is fairly the same with higher doses (20 to 26 mg) except that it seems to come on much faster. But I don't like high doses of 2C-I. Too stimulating. Not worth it because for me, all the magic is still there with lower doses.

Obviously you had a wonderful trip and all is well, but next time try 16 mg orally with no nasal supplement. It is the perfect dose I sware! :)
 
^^i agree, i dont like to boost PEA's w/ insufflation (especially if you're new to a drug, you dont know for sure when you've peaked), but after reading a lot of your posts MG it seems you require a bit less to get off on a lot of psychedelics (lucky!); i personally like 18-22mg.
 
Nice job, glad you enjoyed 2C-I

16mg can provide me with a very satisfying experience. Luckily for you it worked out so nicely :) . I personally prefer 20mg, but that becomes very introspective, and not so talkative/active.

Well done
 
^^^^^^^^^^

You don't find 16 mg introspective? It sure is for me. At 20 mg, the stimulation and side-effects of 2C-I begin to interfear with the trip in my experiences. But perhaps I'm super-sensitive to 2C-I. I seem to be fairly sensitive to most psychedelics except 2C-B and 2C-T-7. With those, I tend to require higher-than-normal dosages to get the effects I desire. I need at least 30 mg of either to get to a +3.
 
Well, I dont mean it lacks introspection, but I find that 16mg is somewhat mild mentally. 16mg is the point where visuals begin, and there is some mental stimulation, but I could push it out if need be. Usually gives me a strong +2, bordering +3. But its at 20mg that I really lose myself to my own thoughts.
 
Guess I'm just a light-weight when it comes to 2C-I. I get all of that (full immersion) from just 16 mg and that dosage will produce a full +3. Which is good as 2C-I is not a cheap material.

Now if only it were that way with 2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-T-7! I need significant dosages ( at least 30+ mg of each) for a full +3.
 
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