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2C-E - Tried it twice - Observations

phillo

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2C-E is less the sensation of ingesting a mind altering substance and more like stepping into a parallel existence. One is relatively clearheaded, though ideas and possibilities cascade through/bombard the mind.

Though only visiting this alternate reality twice, I’ve made some observations and would like to share some experiences. I’d love some feedback.

There was one moment during my first visit: I had gone to let the cat in, and my back hall was dim. The night was flowing, colorful, shifting, lit by a ½ moon.

The cat darted out of the bushes; and I heard her meow after she’d already passed. I closed the door and forget not only what I was doing, but also, in what context I was doing it – I just forgot. I briefly had the thought of panicking but didn’t.

My back hall morphs and flows. There is silence. I focus on the moment. Stand there, meditate, accept that I’ve forgotten the details of my reality; possibilities rush through my consciousness. I stand there for some time, as these suggestions re; the who and why, slam at me. I stand there for two seconds or two minutes, it feels long though. The who and the why come back, and I realize I have been in an alternate universe.

The next time I visited this place, about 2 weeks later, the visual cartoon effects had diminished (maybe dose related). However, ironically, the real hard core hallucinations occurred in the state in which the surface morphing was tamer, but still present.

I watched the movie ‘Waking Life” during the beginning of the night. A ¼ of the way into the film, I started crying, sobbing, laughing. The movie, just clicked. I cried, and I laughed, and cried, and laughed, and gasped. I can’t describe what this experience was like. During parts of the movie without dialogue, my mind would continue its own narrative along the lines of those in the film, feverishly, and this continued throughout the night.

I had a moment when I understood my cat, I really understood her. I looked at her, and she changed, she wasn’t just a cat, but a being, a presence. I saw her, outside of her context, from a different direction.

I then looked at my cat, and entertained the thought that she was in control and I her pet. I was really there – it didn’t look any different, I was just her pet. But, I mean, I really believed it, like it was true.

I had just that day returned from vacation, and though I’d arranged coverage for the cats, it wasn’t really sufficient. The cats had relieved themselves in some bad places, and I’d had to clean that all up before the night started.

I saw the situation of the cats as a sitcom, with my absence being a storyline. I saw all of the characters through the eyes of the sitcom cats, distorted and over the top. I saw the relationships of the cats to each other; weird and dysfunctional. Their reaction to my disappearance:

“Where the fuck did he go?”

“I don’t know – but the litter box smells awful. What am I gonna do, I can’t shit, I can’t go near that thing.”

“Well, just go in the bed, I would, I mean.”

I noticed that the slight morphing nature of things would manifest, through open eyes, into different things. The whole of the object would subtly shift, and be something else and it and I would be somewhere else. I noticed my thoughts and ideas would trigger the visions.

Being alone, I had my way with myself, and it was so outrageous I don’t quite know what to make of it. I had sensations which I didn’t even comprehend could be felt. I imagined I was experiencing sensations similar to those felt by rats in experiments in which the pleasure centers of their brains are stimulated with electricity; only better.

In some ways further “out there” than I’d ever been I was never afraid. It never was scary, at all. Also noticed that I was emotionally, all over the place. The experiences felt like, when, in a dream, I’m at home, but it’s not my home. Also, I was able to perceive infinities within every object or idea. That, which was like this would bring me to those would take me to them and back to this.

Questions, comments?
 
It was a interesting read - gave me a different side of 2c-e I never knew about before. Thanks for sharing!

phillo said:
Questions, comments?

Glad you asked lol, I wanted to ask some things.

First you mention "One is relatively clearheaded" which is the most important thing I want to know, as I am planning on trying 2c-e in coming month or so. Are you clear headed enough to interact with people, or talk with someone "normally" if you must?

Another thing you didn't mention your dosages (two trips)! That would be very helpful if you could mention your dosages.

Was there any body load/body high? If so was it uncomfortable, or enjoyable?

Any tips for me or anyone else planning on taking 2c-e? Precautions, advice, warning, etc.?

Sorry for all the questions lol - I'm not ignorant to the powers of 2c-e, I've read alot about it. I just want to absorb as much knowledge as possible before I consume it.

Thanks =)
 
brilliant descriptions of the boundaries you crossed, I really enjoyed this

I've come to appreciate 2c-e just recently, and I know what you mean about seeing the cat as a being, a presence, and understanding her. I've found 2c-e to be the most "reality" affirming chemical I've ever taken. As if all my life I've been performing on a stage, and now I am part of a process, reactions, a function.

Anyway... thanks for sharing! :)
 
Nice report. One thing I want to mention is that while 2C-E tends to be very clearheaded, in extreme cases it can produce a mindfuck (endless loop of godly awakening) that is stronger than anything I've ever experienced. This mind loop is based on logic (as opposed to some of the similar loops that tryptamines can cause), but it does not allow for you to remain feeling mentally sober or even remotely functional.

For me, 2C-E is the most valuable substance there is for exploring the true nature of this physical reality in all its multidimensional glory.
 
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Astavats said:
First you mention "One is relatively clearheaded" which is the most important thing I want to know, as I am planning on trying 2c-e in coming month or so. Are you clear headed enough to interact with people, or talk with someone "normally" if you must?

Um, I would have been in NO WAY able to communicate "normally", when I say "clearheaded" I mean there was a coherence to the thought process. I could logically trace all the epiphanies, but, I was definitely royally fucked up.

Astavats said:
Another thing you didn't mention your dosages (two trips)! That would be very helpful if you could mention your dosages.

I can't tell you dose just now, somewhere between 12mg and 17mg. Also, it's so hard to base your dose on someone else's--I would say start lowish--I think you can boost up to an hour after ingestion.

Astavats said:
Was there any body load/body high? If so was it uncomfortable, or enjoyable?

The body sensations were, for me, quite pleasant. There was muscle tension, which I get w/all phens, including cactus. I took 1/2 mg or Xanax twice during the experience which completely solved the problem. I never had nausea or upset stomach.

Astavats said:
Any tips for me or anyone else planning on taking 2c-e? Precautions, advice, warning, etc.?

I would say, measure carefully and make sure you absolutely WILL NOT be required to play sober.
 
Xorkoth said:
For me, 2C-E is the most valuable substance there is for exploring the true nature of this physical reality in all its multidimensional glory.

I tentatively want to say it's the most unbelievable thing I've ever tried, and I've done all the standard stuff and a lot of the more obscure (to the general public anyway) substances.

I could see this being incredibly therapeutic as I found it to be extremely emotional, ridiculously mind opening, but safe. It always felt safe. Maybe if I took a heroic dose, it wouldn't feel so safe, but, I'll never do 2c-t-2, or 2c-i, or 2c-c, or a lot of other things again-no point.

During the experience I actually thought that, if I encountered a head space like that produced by 2c-i a few times a year, and made good use of it, I would not really have any desire to trip anymore after awhile.
 
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