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2C-E - medium experience - tale of three journeys

anjovis

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2c-e - medium experience - tale of three journeys

01
18.20 30mg of 2c-e in gelcap.
19.30 Walking around the natural preservation area, sun is setting. It is like golden lava going behind the lake. We sit on a bench and I am hit by IT. My thoughts begin to shoot of tangentially. Very clear and clean. Fantastique. Visual distortions are there, but are not very strong. People's faces are surprisingly normal. Perspective changes. Going to J's. Moments of clarity, I see all the basic principles of my life crystal clear. Divine moments of clarity. To see eternity. This was very strong (propably strongest trip so far), very clear and extraordinary evening. Simply superb material, perhaps the best I've seen yet. No physical symptoms, some visuals, some auditory hallucinations. But the time and tangential thinking is excellent.


02
24mg of 2c-e in cap, a small chunk of space cookie and two small tokes around t+1.5h and t+2h.

First signs of real effects came when a mosquito landed on my left arm. I quickly glanced it and it seemed enormous. I startled.

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photo 1. Sitting on grass.

Magic and fantasia

I sat there (photo 1) on high grass watching nearby forests over the field. It was half cloudy and the sun came out from clouds every now and then for a few minutes just to go back behind clouds soon after. Air was thick with magic. Any minute a unicorn, a fairy, troll, goblin or any fictious creature could step out of the shadows. The grass and flowers were glistening in the sunlight. I had entered Fantasia, the magical fairy tale land from The Neverending Story. The music was essential for my magical mood. I took off my earphones to test it and indeed, the feeling changed from magical to some other kind very quickly. The album at that time was Namlook: Air II, melodic ambient moods.

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photo 2. Forest.

After some walking along sandy side roads, I climbed up a cliff to see views. Climbing up was propably the most confusing part of my trip. At points I wasn't sure at all which way was uphill and which was downhill, but I somehow managed to get atop the cliffs. It was a familiar place to me, I had been here several times as a kid. Bare cliffs and lots of lichen growing everywhere. I climbed atop of a big rock and sat down to listen to the music again. I closed my eyes. Music took me over and I drifted somewhere along with Namlook & Richie Hawtins moods at "From Within 3". To my surprise, album was over after a moment I thought was a mere five minutes, but which apparently was over half an hour.

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photo 3. Views.

I walked along a ridge that had lots of pines and views over the surrounding landscapes (photo 2, photo 3). There was a brief storm with heavy rain. Nature showed its might. I had come at that same place dozens of times when I was a kid, but I still seemed to be lost. I just trusted my instincts. All places seemed somewhat familiar yet I couldn't orientate myself at all. When the storm ceased, air seemed extraordinarily fresh. I sat down on a rock and closed my eyes again. This time I was overwhelmed by the closed eye visuals that were first overlapping and quickly moving fractal images, but soon turned into full three dimensional fractal caves with the shift in music. Perhaps one day I can replicate one of those images in short animations. I was swimming deep in the music. Music rhythm was like an echo of some constant theme that captured all of my consciousness. I can safely say I was unaware of my surroundings during that time. Images brought some feelings to me that I can only describe as "ancient tribe consciousness". I have no better words for it. The images, the music, my thoughts, all were in a flow that was something I had never seen before, yet it seemed familiar as if brought back from my earlier lives. If I hadn't spent years with sciences and thinking of my view on life, I might have turned into believing rebirth or similar things. I am still an atheist, but that experience was a test for my beliefs. Again I listened the whole album through, this time it was Namlook & Spyra "Virtual Vices", the third track was especially
imagery provoking.

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photo 4. Plant.

I finally found my way back from hills. I was coming down now and I tought I could head back home. I stopped to lay down on some fields that were blossoming with tall grass and flowers (photo 5). I was tired and fell into half asleep state. Again I saw some incredible CEV's. One of them was a flash of what looked like a "shadow" creature from Babylon 5. This creature came with a strong association of being one of the two "pets" living inside my mind. This might sound scary or crazy, but it was not, just very strange flash. The two pets had a pet of their own, also living inside my head, but I was not high enough to see it. After this flash I snapped out from my half-sleepy state.

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photo 5. Field.

I walked back to my parents where I was staying just to find out that my daughter had got a serious fever. The rest of the evening went quickly as I took care of her. Around t+12 hours I was down enough to sleep.


03
Around 2pm, me 42mg of 2c-e and my friend M 46mg of 2c-e swallowed in a capsule.

After t+1.30 trip starts. Relatively smooth come up, I felt just stretching, not much nausea nor other negative symptoms. I feel cold and I shiver constantly, but it doesn't bother.

We listen to Firesign Theatre - Live At Westbury Fair. I never knew anything could give experiences like this. The echoing sounds create kaleidoscopic looping patterns inside my head in seconds. The true trip starts. I snap out from deeper journey to put more blankets over myself a few times during the album, but fall back every time in a few seconds. I remember opening my eyes and watching the ceiling for a few seconds. It was a sea of patterns, ever changing, undulating back and forth. Real life seemed like a dream then and the new world created by the music was the real place with its diamond
shaped patterns. I seem to touch something mystical, something which seem like a well guarded secret that only listeners of this album with the right state of mind can achieve. This truth is ineffable, like a very clever trick revealed to me. I travel through places, but I cannot describe them anymore. There are a few moments where I wonder if this is too much, but those moments pass quickly and again I am no longer much aware of routine reality.

The album is over and I am amazed to the very last cell of my body. What was that? I have tripped before, but never like this. I take some fruit salad and we continue to sink into another album, Propeller Island - The Garden. This also gives me extraordinary hallucinations, mystical states and ever changing, emotionally charged vivid thoughts and visionary patterns. This album was much smoother and brought you back from the deeps sometimes during the album, but nevertheless I am again amazed from tip to toes. Those two out-of-this-world trips took a lot of energy and we end up just listening to more easy type of music, like Namlook, Steve Roach, Robert Rich and other classical ambient. The plateau ended around 7pm (t+5h) and long, slow and smooth transition back to normal consciousness begun. We smoked a good deal of weed during the landing period. By midnight I was relatively free from effects of 2c-e, but heavily stoned. I missed my bus and had to walk some 15km back home.
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There, three extraordinary occasions with 2c-e. I wrote more about the second trip than the first and third, since they were more difficult to put into words. One thing seems clear to me now. Music is the key, psychedelics are just catalysts. 2c-e is also the most neutral substance that I have had the priviledge of testing. Use with care and respect.
 
Nice report, and the pictures are very cool. Talk about a great setting! :)

2c-e is also the most neutral substance that I have had the priviledge of testing.

Neutral? How so? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, as I have plenty of 2C-E just sitting here waiting to be used, but haven't gotten around to checking it out yet.
 
^^
May I suggest you start with doses much lower than anjovis used? :)

Many people find 2C-E doses between 12mg and 18mg to be more than enough...
 
May I suggest you start with doses much lower than anjovis used?

You may definitely suggest that, and I will definitely follow that advice. :) This one seems a little rugged, certainly not one to take lightly nor mess around with.
 
Wow! Sounds like a series of amazing experiences.

I have tried 2ce at 14mg's and would like to try it again at a higher dosages (maybe 18mg's for the next time) but i'm a little scared to be honest. It lasts so long and can be so powerful and that worries me a bit.

I'm fairly experienced with hallucinogens (2ct2, 2ci, 2cb, LSD and mushrooms spring to mind), but of all these 2ce seems the most potentially 'difficult' as well as perhaps the most interesting and rewarding.

Do you have any advice for someone who is interesting in upping their 2ce dosage?
 
I am still nervous every time I take this substance, since it is so powerful. Especially that 42mg trip was beyond everything I have taken so far (I haven't done much acid so perhaps one day I get to see the power of that too). During that last trip, I had much difficulties in standing up, there was so much visual movement and disorientation, especially after those hallucinations. 2c-e trip (at least with me) is entirely up to set + setting, since 2c-e doesn't give any colour of its own to it. I have no more advices than what there already is given on here or erowid.org. Start low, work up and the first times at higher doses (above 20mg), always have a sitter. I say it again, cannabis amplifies 2c-e trip considerably, so use that with care. Also, since 2c-e trip is so neutral, it might take you by surprise. How to explain why it is neutral? Well, to me, it is physically neutral, I am not stimulated at all, nor sedated. I don't get muscle tension or pretty much anything else either. Then it is neutral in mental effects. Tryptamines, in general, feel quite electric, acid especially. Almost all substances give fair amount of visuals and it distorts object forms, people's faces, etc. On 2c-e people look quite normal, nothing like on mushrooms or tma-2 where everything is distorted to the extreme. Colours are not intensified much, there is no emotional undertone except the one you started the trip with. Perhaps all don't agree with me, but judge yourself when you try it.
 
^^^^^^^^

My 20mg 2C-E trip was pretty much beyond all my psychedelic experiences, save one or two LSD trips and perhaps some 5-MeO-DMT and ketamine experiences. I can't imagine 42mg! =D
 
Thanks for the advice; i do plan to work up slowly. My next 2ce trip will be somewhere between 15mg's and 18mg's (previous highest was 14mg's) depending on circumstances.
 
My three 20mg trips (and one 15mg trip) have all been fantastic. The more I read these reports, the more I look forward to my next voyage with it. I'm not sure if neutral is the word that I like. I actually find many of the body effects and its basic energy signature to be similar to 2C-I with maybe a little bit less desire to move around. 20mg gives me substantial jaw-clench.

The major difference is that 2C-E seems to have an additional psychedelic (i.e. mind-manifesting) side that is very low-key with other 2C-X drugs. The latter two 20mg experiences were with my girl-friend, and we a great time, although I had some unusual body sensations and some anxieties to deal with in the last one.

My first 20mg experience was something else. I took the drug all by my lonesome in my apartment. I also throughly binged on the Cannabis while coming up. I remember starring at my tapestries and saying "holy shit" to myself with a feeling of amazement that my brain could actually do that. Unlike with 2C-I where I often see basic color patterns and warping effects, the 2C-E was causing full blown abstract hallucinations that seemed to be composed of what I was seeing, what I was hearing (the psytrance music I was listening to, and what I was thinking, even though my thoughts were very clear. The multiple insights that I experienced that night came to me in frightening clarity. The experience deserves a full trip report as it was unlike anything else. I also masturbated 3 times if I remember correctly [pardon if this offends].

Sex on 20mg of 2C-E with my partner has been as good or better than Mescaline. These two are probably the best two sex drugs I've encountered. The psychdelic-side of 2C-E amplifies the eroticism to incredible heights. I think sexual synaesthesia is a good way to describe it.
 
morninggloryseed said:
My 20mg 2C-E trip was pretty much beyond all my psychedelic experiences, save one or two LSD trips and perhaps some 5-MeO-DMT and ketamine experiences. I can't imagine 42mg! =D
^^ Ditto! Wow, I just can't imagine anything over 25mg. Or maybe I can, and it sounds amazing. ;)

Great report, especially the nature photos. I always get the urge to take photos when I'm tripping, especially on LSD for some reason. I hardly ever get around to it though. :\
 
sounds like an incredible trip! I personally can't see 2ce taking me to that level. My experiances just didn't have that kind of magnitude. .... maybe i'll have to try 35 or 40 mg to see what happens- i'm still waiting for ANY chemical to astound me.
 
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