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2C-E in liquid form.

Big)Sky

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I just ordered 500 mgs of 2C-E and want to put it into 100mg liquid bottles. I have 5 3inch glass dropper bottles, i had gotten them from a batch of tincure and cleaned them out and was thinking of using them to dose my 2C-E. Im not sure the size of the bottle or what the doseage per drop would be.

I was wondering if i could use h2o or would i have to use grain. Also sence i do not know the size of the bottle i was going to put 25mgs in the bottle for each full dropper full. Any disaprovals?
 
For stability's sake, you're better using the highest proof alcohol you can.

For dosing, you've have to work out how many ml were in a drop and dissolve the 2C-E in the alcohol accordingly. It'd be helpful to know how much each bottle could hold as well.

Its unlikely you've be able to dissolve enough 2C-E into your solvent to make 1 Drop equal to 1 Dose. Furthermore, 25mg is a fairly hefty dose.

Consider diluting your 500mg 2C-E in 100ml of high proof alcohol (Everclear?). This would leave you with a concerntration of 5mg/ml which could be easily and accurately measure out with an oral syringe. It'd make 0.2ml equal to 1mg so you've got a decent amount of control over your dose. Handy considering the steep dose response curve of 2C-* compounds.
 
Is there any way to measure out ml's without being sketchy in my town and asking for a syringe. I hear 5ml's is what a coke bottle cap holds?
 
theres nothing sketchy about asking for a syringe in a pharmacy.

just say your feeding some abandoned kittens or something. : D

no seriously tho, they wont think twice about giving you syringes.
ask for needles though and you might raise a few eyebrows
 
As superted said, asking for oral syringes isn't sketchy at all.
I know in the UK there's a brand of otc kids medicine that comes with an oral syringe to administer it. Just squirt it in the kids mouth rather than dicking around with a spoon and covering both yourself and the child in syrupy medicine.
 
You can also find these oral syringes at most chain drug stores and supermarkets in the US. Usually on the shelf in the baby section labeled something like baby medicine dropper.
 
For stability's sake, you're better using the highest proof alcohol you can.
I believe that in case of 2C-E water will just be fine. My first argument to use a high percentage alcohol would possibly have more to do with possible contamination with bacteria then with stability.
 
No need to buy a syringe to measure 5ml! A teaspoon (tsp) is 5ml.

Count how many droplets from your dropper fill a tsp. Say 10 droplets.

If you put your 500mg 2C-E into 100ml of h2O/booze then 10 drops will contain 25mg.

5ml = 25mg = 10 drops.

Each drop is 5mg this way.
 
If you're dosing by drops, i'd recommend against using alcohol. As the alcohol evaporates, even if you top it off to keep the volume constant, the size of the drop will change (see my thread on the topic).

I bought some bacteriostatic water that i intend to use for the same purpose - it's non-toxic (meant for injection!), the preservative is less volitile by far than water, so you can top it off if some of the liquid evaporates using distilled water, and still maintain the same drop size.
 
If you're dosing by drops, i'd recommend against using alcohol. As the alcohol evaporates, even if you top it off to keep the volume constant, the size of the drop will change (see my thread on the topic).

I bought some bacteriostatic water that i intend to use for the same purpose - it's non-toxic (meant for injection!), the preservative is less volitile by far than water, so you can top it off if some of the liquid evaporates using distilled water, and still maintain the same drop size.

That's an excellent, excellent point. My plan, for my next RC, was to dissolve into high-proof alcohol and I didn't even take evaporation into account.

I've been keeping my RC's dissolved into filtered water, refrigerated, in a mason jar. I wonder how much has evaporated in the month I've had it? Perhaps that is what's accounted for the apparent increase in potency! My last 12mg dose felt like my 1st 16mg dose but I attributed it to body chemistry.
 
Evaporation from a closed and refrigerated container sounds highly unlikely... Of course it is better to be too cautious, but topping off with fresh solvent might also lead to undesired effects - like diluting your original solution and thus skewing your dropwise dosage.

No need to buy a syringe to measure 5ml! A teaspoon (tsp) is 5ml.
This is really some bad advice, seriously... If you ever had the luxury of owning different types of teaspoons (yeah, I know it's fairly decadent ;)), you will see that there is a high degree of difference as to the volume they can hold. Also, how do you take into account the meniscus when measuring off a full teaspoon!? Classic example of penny-wise, pound-foolish if you ask me... Just invest three fucking bucks in some piece of equipment fit for measuring a liquid dose at the desired accuracy.
 
Beautiful, thank you guys for the helpful insight. Many good times ahead in the future now with proper knowledge of dosage.
 
The solution to evaporation is to mark the level in your container before you put it away. Mark downwards from the top, and before dosing, always refill to marked level with fresh solvent and then give the bottle a shake to ensure good mixing.
 
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