TheIndoleQueen
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2c-e Trip Report: edited as of 1-2-04
1-2-04
Okay - let's try this again. Apparently, the last report I made was too abstract and too detached, so I will try a more comprehensive report. J (TheIndoleKing) warned me that this site was very astute regarding technicalities and relativity of subject matter.
To start - I am not a chemist of any sort. In fact, I'm a graphic designer, so my reports will tend to be very layman oriented: emotional and descript to the gut. My boyfriend is log-in user, "TheIndoleKing," and is the science mind behind all of our adventures - I'll refer to him as "J." He was the one who assigned my name as the "TheIndoleQueen" (kinda too brave for me, but J wanted to make a distinctive connection between us. I would have rather been named "Star Twilight" - hehe).
Though I have ventured more than J has with LSD, he has been able to intrinsically relate our experiences with a scientific skew, making things much more interesting. In return, I can relate the psychological and mannerism/tendencies that I have noticed in my past experiences to him. In this way, I would like to think we complement each other in our tripping: one letting the other know what's going on psychologically while the other informing of physiological occurrences.
I must say that I am disappointed that not much value was given to a report that recorded an experience within the duration of a trip. It wasn't as if I was writing of "finding God" or speaking of "flowers, lollypops, and rainbows." I thought it would be interesting to see how coherent (or non-coherent) one was during this time and how linear (or non-linear) the thought process was. While "you guys" (sorry for the generalization) would like to understand all things in its chemical effect and affect - some of us are interested in the psychological and emotional details.
In any case, let's discuss the 2c-e trip as I observed it.
The first trip J and I experienced with 2c-e was in a dosage of 10mg. 2c-e was dissolved in ethanol and then distributed onto blotter paper (watercolor paper). We were testing the strength of the substance and was not sure what to expect as a whole. Prior to this, J told me that he tried 5-meoamt, which caused much nausea and erratic approach and decline of plateau. (I didn't try this substance myself, with no regrets). 2c-e was to be a much smoother transition in peaking and a more in-depth psychological experience.
Not realizing how "set and setting" dependant this substance was, we surrounded ourselves with a very high sensory-stimulus setting: lots of people, lots of lights, and lots of sounds coming at us constantly. As we discovered, this dosage would be considered a fairly low causing the visual sensors to become sensitive, but with very little hallucinatory effects. My visuals had that delayed, dragged out, sluggish feeling, where I couldn't focus precisely on one item for any period of time and imagery started to have a slight tracer effect.
After two hours of initial consumption, I experienced a mild level of euphoria, but was more irritated by the excess of exterior stimulus. I found myself wanting to go to an area with minimal light, movement, and sounds. In this setting, it seemed as if the visual and auditory effects were more enhanced versus being in full sensory stimulus, where things were becoming... not overwhelming, but irritating (that's the only way I can describe it). Very intelligent and in-depth discussion could still be made and I noticed my body wanted to be sedate and not mobile.
Since two hours had passed with very little significant change in state of mind, J and I decided to take another 10mg to chase our initial dose. We realized that the current plateau that we had reached would only be minimally enhanced by the chaser. The chaser took another hour to take effect resulting in a higher level of disorientation and visual hallucinations in our surroundings. Spray paintings on walls started to do the smear and sway act.
At this time, we realized "set and setting" seemed to be a factor in our trip and we started to seclude ourselves within our own environment (our car, to be exact). We were parked behind a restaurant that had a balcony, with J describing and drawing the relationship of the chemical structure we ingested compared to similar structures such as chocolate, we realized that a collection of people were gathering on the balcony. When our realization struck, we were strangely unnerved by the idea that we were so visible to these folk; thus, prompting us to leave the premises immediately and head home.
In heading home, we noticed that lights were very vivid. For example, road reflectors were floating at least three feet above ground level and large objects such as 18-wheeler trucks seem to be lightly floating. I had to verbally state that, "No, that 18-wheeler will not float away with a touch of our fingers. It is a solid object and if we make contact, our solid object will collide with that solid object." (Interesting, huh?).
Once home, I must say that the come-down was as smooth and gentle as any I've ever had. I guess you can compare it to a mushroom come-down, but at an even more stretched-out decline. The come-down was heaven compared to an LSD or ecstasy come down: those come-downs are like riding a tin-sheet on a rocky mountain - ick.
So - that's my report on our first try with 2c-e. There are two more trips I've experienced with this substance. All different from this trip, due to quantity. One wretched, while the last, wonderfully pleasant (that was during the initial report that was posted). Those will come later.
In conclusion, I hope this was "informative."
TheIndoleQueen ("S")
12-31-03
Ask J and he'll break down the parts of that title for you and explain what it's doing to you and how it correlates or relates to similar compounds. It's a receptor - that's for sure - most likely in the seretonin arena.
This experience, while it's still in my psyche:
Modest dose (ask J for specifics) so no visuals at all. But, there was that slight peripheral distortion and tightness in the back of the eyes and neck. But this was very mild and not constricting feeling - just pressure.
A sense of euphoria, indeed, but not in that overwhelming blissful way ("happy, happy, joy, joy") not that, forced grin because "I love you, dude" kinda thing. Just a nice tispy kinda mellow, melancholy buzz in your head. Nevertheless, things were positive, pleasant thoughts - but that didn't mean reality couldn't connect. It was a matter of choosing to think one thing or another.
Strangely enough, as "peripheral" this sensation is - once you're given a focus or topic to zone-in on, that focus LOCKS ON. I find very complex, technical things that J discusses with me - flow even easier - visual connection of concepts in my head seems more easily visualized. Words still escape me though. Very long and too complex to see phonetically if said only once in rapid conversation.
This is definately a "set and setting" (as J calls it) situation. We've noticed that though euphoria is relevant, if we're not comfortable with our environment - the insecurity, discomfort will hamper. We've noticed that this was more of a neutral type of experience with your own current bias steering the mood of the time spent.
At higher doses, the visuals are remarkably overwhelming. Tracers of minute movement in lights will start cobwebbing your field of vision Tints of lights will roll from one side of the light spectrum to the other. If light shadows were swaying due to wind blowing the tree leaves - the nuance of the movement would roll from one tint to another - like the wave on the ocean. I believe (with no biological science to support this) that our eyes are receiving light at a faster speed due to the dialation of our eyes or our eyes are receiving a larger amount of light in quantity than usual. So either our eyes cannot process the information fast enough, causing details to not be described correctly (or it's the "fast version" of how we see light).
Gotta stop now - the screen's really bright:D
1-2-04
Okay - let's try this again. Apparently, the last report I made was too abstract and too detached, so I will try a more comprehensive report. J (TheIndoleKing) warned me that this site was very astute regarding technicalities and relativity of subject matter.
To start - I am not a chemist of any sort. In fact, I'm a graphic designer, so my reports will tend to be very layman oriented: emotional and descript to the gut. My boyfriend is log-in user, "TheIndoleKing," and is the science mind behind all of our adventures - I'll refer to him as "J." He was the one who assigned my name as the "TheIndoleQueen" (kinda too brave for me, but J wanted to make a distinctive connection between us. I would have rather been named "Star Twilight" - hehe).
Though I have ventured more than J has with LSD, he has been able to intrinsically relate our experiences with a scientific skew, making things much more interesting. In return, I can relate the psychological and mannerism/tendencies that I have noticed in my past experiences to him. In this way, I would like to think we complement each other in our tripping: one letting the other know what's going on psychologically while the other informing of physiological occurrences.
I must say that I am disappointed that not much value was given to a report that recorded an experience within the duration of a trip. It wasn't as if I was writing of "finding God" or speaking of "flowers, lollypops, and rainbows." I thought it would be interesting to see how coherent (or non-coherent) one was during this time and how linear (or non-linear) the thought process was. While "you guys" (sorry for the generalization) would like to understand all things in its chemical effect and affect - some of us are interested in the psychological and emotional details.
In any case, let's discuss the 2c-e trip as I observed it.
The first trip J and I experienced with 2c-e was in a dosage of 10mg. 2c-e was dissolved in ethanol and then distributed onto blotter paper (watercolor paper). We were testing the strength of the substance and was not sure what to expect as a whole. Prior to this, J told me that he tried 5-meoamt, which caused much nausea and erratic approach and decline of plateau. (I didn't try this substance myself, with no regrets). 2c-e was to be a much smoother transition in peaking and a more in-depth psychological experience.
Not realizing how "set and setting" dependant this substance was, we surrounded ourselves with a very high sensory-stimulus setting: lots of people, lots of lights, and lots of sounds coming at us constantly. As we discovered, this dosage would be considered a fairly low causing the visual sensors to become sensitive, but with very little hallucinatory effects. My visuals had that delayed, dragged out, sluggish feeling, where I couldn't focus precisely on one item for any period of time and imagery started to have a slight tracer effect.
After two hours of initial consumption, I experienced a mild level of euphoria, but was more irritated by the excess of exterior stimulus. I found myself wanting to go to an area with minimal light, movement, and sounds. In this setting, it seemed as if the visual and auditory effects were more enhanced versus being in full sensory stimulus, where things were becoming... not overwhelming, but irritating (that's the only way I can describe it). Very intelligent and in-depth discussion could still be made and I noticed my body wanted to be sedate and not mobile.
Since two hours had passed with very little significant change in state of mind, J and I decided to take another 10mg to chase our initial dose. We realized that the current plateau that we had reached would only be minimally enhanced by the chaser. The chaser took another hour to take effect resulting in a higher level of disorientation and visual hallucinations in our surroundings. Spray paintings on walls started to do the smear and sway act.
At this time, we realized "set and setting" seemed to be a factor in our trip and we started to seclude ourselves within our own environment (our car, to be exact). We were parked behind a restaurant that had a balcony, with J describing and drawing the relationship of the chemical structure we ingested compared to similar structures such as chocolate, we realized that a collection of people were gathering on the balcony. When our realization struck, we were strangely unnerved by the idea that we were so visible to these folk; thus, prompting us to leave the premises immediately and head home.
In heading home, we noticed that lights were very vivid. For example, road reflectors were floating at least three feet above ground level and large objects such as 18-wheeler trucks seem to be lightly floating. I had to verbally state that, "No, that 18-wheeler will not float away with a touch of our fingers. It is a solid object and if we make contact, our solid object will collide with that solid object." (Interesting, huh?).
Once home, I must say that the come-down was as smooth and gentle as any I've ever had. I guess you can compare it to a mushroom come-down, but at an even more stretched-out decline. The come-down was heaven compared to an LSD or ecstasy come down: those come-downs are like riding a tin-sheet on a rocky mountain - ick.
So - that's my report on our first try with 2c-e. There are two more trips I've experienced with this substance. All different from this trip, due to quantity. One wretched, while the last, wonderfully pleasant (that was during the initial report that was posted). Those will come later.
In conclusion, I hope this was "informative."
TheIndoleQueen ("S")
12-31-03
Ask J and he'll break down the parts of that title for you and explain what it's doing to you and how it correlates or relates to similar compounds. It's a receptor - that's for sure - most likely in the seretonin arena.
This experience, while it's still in my psyche:
Modest dose (ask J for specifics) so no visuals at all. But, there was that slight peripheral distortion and tightness in the back of the eyes and neck. But this was very mild and not constricting feeling - just pressure.
A sense of euphoria, indeed, but not in that overwhelming blissful way ("happy, happy, joy, joy") not that, forced grin because "I love you, dude" kinda thing. Just a nice tispy kinda mellow, melancholy buzz in your head. Nevertheless, things were positive, pleasant thoughts - but that didn't mean reality couldn't connect. It was a matter of choosing to think one thing or another.
Strangely enough, as "peripheral" this sensation is - once you're given a focus or topic to zone-in on, that focus LOCKS ON. I find very complex, technical things that J discusses with me - flow even easier - visual connection of concepts in my head seems more easily visualized. Words still escape me though. Very long and too complex to see phonetically if said only once in rapid conversation.
This is definately a "set and setting" (as J calls it) situation. We've noticed that though euphoria is relevant, if we're not comfortable with our environment - the insecurity, discomfort will hamper. We've noticed that this was more of a neutral type of experience with your own current bias steering the mood of the time spent.
At higher doses, the visuals are remarkably overwhelming. Tracers of minute movement in lights will start cobwebbing your field of vision Tints of lights will roll from one side of the light spectrum to the other. If light shadows were swaying due to wind blowing the tree leaves - the nuance of the movement would roll from one tint to another - like the wave on the ocean. I believe (with no biological science to support this) that our eyes are receiving light at a faster speed due to the dialation of our eyes or our eyes are receiving a larger amount of light in quantity than usual. So either our eyes cannot process the information fast enough, causing details to not be described correctly (or it's the "fast version" of how we see light).
Gotta stop now - the screen's really bright:D
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