Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
Forewarning:
This is an extremely high dose combination. Absolutely not something to be taken lightly. I've experienced many crazy high doses of both 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT before and even so this was very overwhelming - if anyone were thinking of trying this combination I'd recommend taking 1/2 to 1/3 of your usual dose for each substance, and make sure you're in a safe environment. Most importantly, YMMV!
Background info:
2C-E was white HCl. 4-AcO-DMT was off-white fumarate. Methoxetamine was white HCl.
Empty stomach at time of dosing.
Doses: 2C-E - 35mg oral, 4-AcO-DMT - 20mg oral, Methoxetamine - 40mg oral
My weight: 147lbs (67kg)
I have a lot of experience with 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT, ranging from very low doses to extremely high doses. I also have several experiences with Methoxetamine at the low to medium dose range.
Report:
T+0:00: Drank the remaining 35mg of 2C-E that I had stored in a liquid solution on an empty stomach.
T+0:15: Put 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT on my tongue and washed it down with a glass of juice.
T+0:25: Already a +, feeling something, not sure if it's the 2C-E already, or just excitement. I've never had 2C-E kick in any quicker than say 50 minutes even with high doses so if this was kicking in already I was definitely in for an intense ride.
T+0:45: Definitely feeling the drug now. A ++ now, feeling a little weird and off, very slight visual distortions but nothing to write home about, this is definitely kicking in fast though. I can feel the 4-AcO-DMT kicking in a little now too, the familiar eerie headspace is forming.
T+0:55: Okay this is kicking in a lot stronger now. Still a ++ but at this point I know this combination is going to kick my ass, big time. I have combined similar doses of the two chemicals before, but this was when I was tripping rather often and had tolerance to both - so I wasn't 100% sure what to expect, other than knowing it would be intense.
T+1:05: Definite +++. My whole room is covered by an arrangement of colourful lines and dots, the two substances are blending together nicely. I'm laying in very weird positions as I often do on 4-AcO-DMT, and I start to feel the headspace get a little difficult, some very dark CEVs of bleeding dead bodies and people killing each other - the demonic nature of the darker side of both compounds is making itself known. However, I'm not scared, just a little nervous in case it continues down this line throughout the trip. Throughout the trip I was on MSN and Skype using my phone, and I remember at this point the letters were shifting and emitting a light rainbow coloured glow. CEVs consisted of realistic imagery, like watching a movie in my head, and they would shift dramatically depending on what I thought about. Feeling uncomfortable and nauseous, I have a feeling I might throw up this trip.
T+1:10: 40mg Methoxetamine placed under tongue. Unfortunately the taste makes me want to throw up when coupled with the existing nausea, so I quickly swallow and wash it down with my drink. Nausea increases somewhat and I distinctly remember worrying that I was about to projectile vomit everywhere, but the numb sensation on my tongue from the Methoxetamine began to take over, and my body began to relax a little. The whole room was warping and shifting in unimaginable ways, flat objects becoming 3D, 3D objects becoming flat, my windows were wobbling around like jelly. In terms of CEVs, I remember there was a definite entity presence, I called them elves because they reminded me of the elf-like creatures I'd experienced on 4-AcO-DMT, but they told me that they were not elves, but something else.
T+1:25: I experienced what I believe was 4D, something that I thought was completely impossible for a human to perceive - I simply had my eyes closed and these entities showed me their 4D realm, I was stunned and speechless, and wondering if I would be able to remember what it looked like so I could draw it for you guys. Unfortunately I can't even conceive the concept now like I didn't last night. Things occasionally took on a difficult turn, as I kept thinking back to difficult trips of my past and was worried those themes would return tonight - I remembered my anxiety, lack of a job, and how things were progressing very slowly if at all in my life right now, but I asked the entities to change the subject for a while - so instead I was bombarded with beautiful colours, gorgeous dancing women, and stunning creatures and plants.
T+1:40: These CEVs became more and more intense, with a very colourful and fluid dimension to them. I was still switching between seeing in 3D and 2D when I closed my eyes, very strange and surreal. I saw landscapes, fractals, unreal patterns that would have not been remotely possibly to see without the effects of these drugs. I remember just being blown away with the intensity, both visual and mental. So many thoughts were running through my head, unimaginable concepts, creative ideas, it was wonderful.
T+2:00: At this point my sense of time perception was gone completely, so my times from now on will be very rough estimates, this while be highlighted by a "~" before the time. My phone now had rainbows pouring out of the screen, vivid and striking, always causing me to grin ridiculously. I had difficultly typing and understanding some sentences, but I was still able to communicate a little over mobile MSN/Skype about what I was experiencing, what I had taken, and in what amounts. I don't remember too many of my visuals from this point but there was much of the same from before, only more lucid and clear, a striking HD quality to everything I saw.
~T+2:30: At this point things took on a difficult turn. I saw very dark demonic imagery, people in bathtubs full of blood (I blame Dexter for this), rather sick twisted imagery of death and destruction - it wasn't as scary as you'd expect, but it worried me nonetheless. What really got me though is I began thinking about my anxiety and problems again, I thought that maybe I'll never resolve them - what happens if I don't get a job soon enough? What if I'm still stuck barely being able to leave the house in years to come? I felt very emotionally distraught and I thought the trip was going to head to hell and back for sure. I was definitely overwhelmed, and quite scared.
~T+2:45: I remember that often I would be laying there and suddenly the intensity would drop a little - it seemed to come in distinct waves washing over me. Each time it dropped I felt like I had time to relax my body, calm down, and re-evaluate my thoughts, this had a deep therapeutic aspect to it and I found myself questioning why I wasn't applying for jobs and if it was entirely my anxiety or partly just my laziness, and telling myself it would be worth applying despite my anxiety - as if the worst came to the worst, I could still avoid going to interviews. This made me feel a lot better and things took on a much more positive light. The rainbows shining out of my phone were much brighter now, and the Methoxetamine began to make me feel light, comfortable, and removed the anxiety I had been experiencing previously.
~T+3:00: Boom. I melted into my bed, it was hard to determine what was me, what was my bed, what were the covers, and the walls.. All just one viscous gooey blob of matter. I began to lose my sense of self, and quickly I experienced ego death - albeit a very different, more comfortable ego death than previous experiences with either psychedelics or dissociatives alone. This was a ++++, I was experiencing what I felt was telepathy, understanding people I was talking to without having to use any words, despite the great distance between us. All was one, just seen from different perspectives, I was just one little terminal in a technological complex, all part of the same giant super-computer. I remember being shown what looked like the falling letters from the matrix films, only multi-coloured, 3D, and glowing intensely. The entities walked around them and enveloped the letters. When I thought of music or sounds I could hear them loud and clear as if it was playing right next to me, despite the only sound in the room being the whirring noise of my computer in the background.
~T+3:15: What was weird is I was constantly drifting in and out of ego loss - I would know my identity, and then I would be part of everything again. This constant switching was something I was not used to, but it made the experience very pleasant, and much easier to grasp since I was able to process it from my own perspective, and not just the perspective of "All". More therapeutic insights continued, and the visuals made the walls melt around me. It was extremely beautiful and I was overwhelmed with happiness.
~T+3:30: This part was rather strange. I began to see and hear various people talking in my head, as if telepathically. One of them was Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle, and I remember him telling me his comedy work was inspired by psychedelics, and him laughing and saying he'd done crazier combinations. I almost believed it to be real at the time, very intense and realistic, almost like the effects of a deliriant, but I still knew it was a rather ridiculous notion - funny nonetheless. I also remember seeing vivid images of women all dancing together, some clothed, some not, lit up by neon lighting with pounding basslines in the background.
~T+4:00: My memory of the events is getting more and more hazey as the peak began to subside. I was still taken aback by the extreme happiness that filled me, it was a warm glow. I wanted to listen to music at this point, but it was about 6:20AM, and for some reason my headphones weren't recognised - I didn't want to wake everyone up, so I decided I'd live with the sounds my mind were producing. Now at a +++.
~T+4:30: My pupils are still extremely huge, I went to the bathroom at this point and remember the wall and floor tiles were breathing and had an intense glow to them, shifting and melting a little the longer I looked at them. When I returned to my bedroom the walls and windows were wobbling like jelly once more, and there was a lattice overlay over my vision that made everything look ever so interesting.
~T+5:30: Effects are dying down quite rapidly, the intensity is gone. The visuals and mental headspace were still a strong +++ but compared to just how extreme the peak had been, it felt almost as if I was near baseline, when in reality I was far from it. Visuals were about the same as the T+4:30 mark, but I began to feel a little less "headfucked" and I could think more clearly. I used this time to analyse my anxiety and issues more thoroughly, in the hope of finding a solution. I remember asking the entities to make sure I took action and didn't procrastinate after my trip like previous times.
~T+6:00: The MXE has definitely died off except for residual stimulation, which was rather intense when combined with the other drugs, and made me fidget and move about a lot. It was comfortable though despite my fidgeting, and I felt very happy, glowing as the morning sun shined in over me, enveloping me in a warmth that was equivalent to seeing the sun for the very first time.
For the next hour and a half, effects tailed down, until the visuals almost completely subsided, aside from a little shifting and perfect clear HD vision. The headspace remained trippy and stimulating, but there was no mindfuck any more.
~T+7:30: Finally decided to go to sleep, fell asleep rather quickly, which was surprising since I was still significantly stimulated at this point.
Woke up this morning feeling wonderful, well rested (despite only 6 hours sleep rather than my usual 7 - or usual 9+ after a trip), full of energy and happiness. I seem to have retained the HD vision somewhat, along with a little shifting and visual snow (static) which I commonly have for a couple of weeks after taking 2C-E.
Edit: Just a note, you'll notice I managed to sleep after T+7:30. However the trip was definitely still going, I was just worn out and the remaining effects were too light to put off my sleep much longer - I estimate it'd have been another 1 hour 30, to 2 hours before I'd have fully reached baseline
Wonderful time, thought I'd share
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This is an extremely high dose combination. Absolutely not something to be taken lightly. I've experienced many crazy high doses of both 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT before and even so this was very overwhelming - if anyone were thinking of trying this combination I'd recommend taking 1/2 to 1/3 of your usual dose for each substance, and make sure you're in a safe environment. Most importantly, YMMV!
Background info:
2C-E was white HCl. 4-AcO-DMT was off-white fumarate. Methoxetamine was white HCl.
Empty stomach at time of dosing.
Doses: 2C-E - 35mg oral, 4-AcO-DMT - 20mg oral, Methoxetamine - 40mg oral
My weight: 147lbs (67kg)
I have a lot of experience with 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT, ranging from very low doses to extremely high doses. I also have several experiences with Methoxetamine at the low to medium dose range.
Report:
T+0:00: Drank the remaining 35mg of 2C-E that I had stored in a liquid solution on an empty stomach.
T+0:15: Put 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT on my tongue and washed it down with a glass of juice.
T+0:25: Already a +, feeling something, not sure if it's the 2C-E already, or just excitement. I've never had 2C-E kick in any quicker than say 50 minutes even with high doses so if this was kicking in already I was definitely in for an intense ride.
T+0:45: Definitely feeling the drug now. A ++ now, feeling a little weird and off, very slight visual distortions but nothing to write home about, this is definitely kicking in fast though. I can feel the 4-AcO-DMT kicking in a little now too, the familiar eerie headspace is forming.
T+0:55: Okay this is kicking in a lot stronger now. Still a ++ but at this point I know this combination is going to kick my ass, big time. I have combined similar doses of the two chemicals before, but this was when I was tripping rather often and had tolerance to both - so I wasn't 100% sure what to expect, other than knowing it would be intense.
T+1:05: Definite +++. My whole room is covered by an arrangement of colourful lines and dots, the two substances are blending together nicely. I'm laying in very weird positions as I often do on 4-AcO-DMT, and I start to feel the headspace get a little difficult, some very dark CEVs of bleeding dead bodies and people killing each other - the demonic nature of the darker side of both compounds is making itself known. However, I'm not scared, just a little nervous in case it continues down this line throughout the trip. Throughout the trip I was on MSN and Skype using my phone, and I remember at this point the letters were shifting and emitting a light rainbow coloured glow. CEVs consisted of realistic imagery, like watching a movie in my head, and they would shift dramatically depending on what I thought about. Feeling uncomfortable and nauseous, I have a feeling I might throw up this trip.
T+1:10: 40mg Methoxetamine placed under tongue. Unfortunately the taste makes me want to throw up when coupled with the existing nausea, so I quickly swallow and wash it down with my drink. Nausea increases somewhat and I distinctly remember worrying that I was about to projectile vomit everywhere, but the numb sensation on my tongue from the Methoxetamine began to take over, and my body began to relax a little. The whole room was warping and shifting in unimaginable ways, flat objects becoming 3D, 3D objects becoming flat, my windows were wobbling around like jelly. In terms of CEVs, I remember there was a definite entity presence, I called them elves because they reminded me of the elf-like creatures I'd experienced on 4-AcO-DMT, but they told me that they were not elves, but something else.
T+1:25: I experienced what I believe was 4D, something that I thought was completely impossible for a human to perceive - I simply had my eyes closed and these entities showed me their 4D realm, I was stunned and speechless, and wondering if I would be able to remember what it looked like so I could draw it for you guys. Unfortunately I can't even conceive the concept now like I didn't last night. Things occasionally took on a difficult turn, as I kept thinking back to difficult trips of my past and was worried those themes would return tonight - I remembered my anxiety, lack of a job, and how things were progressing very slowly if at all in my life right now, but I asked the entities to change the subject for a while - so instead I was bombarded with beautiful colours, gorgeous dancing women, and stunning creatures and plants.
T+1:40: These CEVs became more and more intense, with a very colourful and fluid dimension to them. I was still switching between seeing in 3D and 2D when I closed my eyes, very strange and surreal. I saw landscapes, fractals, unreal patterns that would have not been remotely possibly to see without the effects of these drugs. I remember just being blown away with the intensity, both visual and mental. So many thoughts were running through my head, unimaginable concepts, creative ideas, it was wonderful.
T+2:00: At this point my sense of time perception was gone completely, so my times from now on will be very rough estimates, this while be highlighted by a "~" before the time. My phone now had rainbows pouring out of the screen, vivid and striking, always causing me to grin ridiculously. I had difficultly typing and understanding some sentences, but I was still able to communicate a little over mobile MSN/Skype about what I was experiencing, what I had taken, and in what amounts. I don't remember too many of my visuals from this point but there was much of the same from before, only more lucid and clear, a striking HD quality to everything I saw.
~T+2:30: At this point things took on a difficult turn. I saw very dark demonic imagery, people in bathtubs full of blood (I blame Dexter for this), rather sick twisted imagery of death and destruction - it wasn't as scary as you'd expect, but it worried me nonetheless. What really got me though is I began thinking about my anxiety and problems again, I thought that maybe I'll never resolve them - what happens if I don't get a job soon enough? What if I'm still stuck barely being able to leave the house in years to come? I felt very emotionally distraught and I thought the trip was going to head to hell and back for sure. I was definitely overwhelmed, and quite scared.
~T+2:45: I remember that often I would be laying there and suddenly the intensity would drop a little - it seemed to come in distinct waves washing over me. Each time it dropped I felt like I had time to relax my body, calm down, and re-evaluate my thoughts, this had a deep therapeutic aspect to it and I found myself questioning why I wasn't applying for jobs and if it was entirely my anxiety or partly just my laziness, and telling myself it would be worth applying despite my anxiety - as if the worst came to the worst, I could still avoid going to interviews. This made me feel a lot better and things took on a much more positive light. The rainbows shining out of my phone were much brighter now, and the Methoxetamine began to make me feel light, comfortable, and removed the anxiety I had been experiencing previously.
~T+3:00: Boom. I melted into my bed, it was hard to determine what was me, what was my bed, what were the covers, and the walls.. All just one viscous gooey blob of matter. I began to lose my sense of self, and quickly I experienced ego death - albeit a very different, more comfortable ego death than previous experiences with either psychedelics or dissociatives alone. This was a ++++, I was experiencing what I felt was telepathy, understanding people I was talking to without having to use any words, despite the great distance between us. All was one, just seen from different perspectives, I was just one little terminal in a technological complex, all part of the same giant super-computer. I remember being shown what looked like the falling letters from the matrix films, only multi-coloured, 3D, and glowing intensely. The entities walked around them and enveloped the letters. When I thought of music or sounds I could hear them loud and clear as if it was playing right next to me, despite the only sound in the room being the whirring noise of my computer in the background.
~T+3:15: What was weird is I was constantly drifting in and out of ego loss - I would know my identity, and then I would be part of everything again. This constant switching was something I was not used to, but it made the experience very pleasant, and much easier to grasp since I was able to process it from my own perspective, and not just the perspective of "All". More therapeutic insights continued, and the visuals made the walls melt around me. It was extremely beautiful and I was overwhelmed with happiness.
~T+3:30: This part was rather strange. I began to see and hear various people talking in my head, as if telepathically. One of them was Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle, and I remember him telling me his comedy work was inspired by psychedelics, and him laughing and saying he'd done crazier combinations. I almost believed it to be real at the time, very intense and realistic, almost like the effects of a deliriant, but I still knew it was a rather ridiculous notion - funny nonetheless. I also remember seeing vivid images of women all dancing together, some clothed, some not, lit up by neon lighting with pounding basslines in the background.
~T+4:00: My memory of the events is getting more and more hazey as the peak began to subside. I was still taken aback by the extreme happiness that filled me, it was a warm glow. I wanted to listen to music at this point, but it was about 6:20AM, and for some reason my headphones weren't recognised - I didn't want to wake everyone up, so I decided I'd live with the sounds my mind were producing. Now at a +++.
~T+4:30: My pupils are still extremely huge, I went to the bathroom at this point and remember the wall and floor tiles were breathing and had an intense glow to them, shifting and melting a little the longer I looked at them. When I returned to my bedroom the walls and windows were wobbling like jelly once more, and there was a lattice overlay over my vision that made everything look ever so interesting.
~T+5:30: Effects are dying down quite rapidly, the intensity is gone. The visuals and mental headspace were still a strong +++ but compared to just how extreme the peak had been, it felt almost as if I was near baseline, when in reality I was far from it. Visuals were about the same as the T+4:30 mark, but I began to feel a little less "headfucked" and I could think more clearly. I used this time to analyse my anxiety and issues more thoroughly, in the hope of finding a solution. I remember asking the entities to make sure I took action and didn't procrastinate after my trip like previous times.
~T+6:00: The MXE has definitely died off except for residual stimulation, which was rather intense when combined with the other drugs, and made me fidget and move about a lot. It was comfortable though despite my fidgeting, and I felt very happy, glowing as the morning sun shined in over me, enveloping me in a warmth that was equivalent to seeing the sun for the very first time.
For the next hour and a half, effects tailed down, until the visuals almost completely subsided, aside from a little shifting and perfect clear HD vision. The headspace remained trippy and stimulating, but there was no mindfuck any more.
~T+7:30: Finally decided to go to sleep, fell asleep rather quickly, which was surprising since I was still significantly stimulated at this point.
Woke up this morning feeling wonderful, well rested (despite only 6 hours sleep rather than my usual 7 - or usual 9+ after a trip), full of energy and happiness. I seem to have retained the HD vision somewhat, along with a little shifting and visual snow (static) which I commonly have for a couple of weeks after taking 2C-E.
Edit: Just a note, you'll notice I managed to sleep after T+7:30. However the trip was definitely still going, I was just worn out and the remaining effects were too light to put off my sleep much longer - I estimate it'd have been another 1 hour 30, to 2 hours before I'd have fully reached baseline
Wonderful time, thought I'd share
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