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2C-E (32mg, first time) + MDMA (3 pills, experienced) = Hell

DoubleTrouble

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9:30 (T+0:00) Swallowed 2 capsules containing 16mg of 2C-E each. I’ve never tried any research chemical let alone 2-CE before, and I am aware this is a hefty dose for a first-timer, but I thought I would try to make the most out of the experience.

10:20 (T+:50) I definitely feel that my perception has been altered somewhat, but it’s hard to say exactly how. I feel a little bit ‘floaty’ but very alert and attentive. I’m also fighting back a little nausea, I might need to lie down pretty soon here. Just swallowed 3 pills of MDMA.

(After this point I lay down on my bed and lose track of time, so the following are just estimates...)

11:00 (T+1:30) I feel sickenly nauseated. There seem to be "waves" of air moving about my room and my walls are starting to melt. I feel overheated. I keep getting stuck in thought loops and am feeling very anxious and paranoid. I don't feel any emotional warmth or empathy from the MDMA yet. I feel extremely sensitive to light, I make it pitch black in my room and listen to some music to try to calm myself down.

11:30 (T+2:00) The nausea has gotten worse and worse. Suddenly I feel the urge to throw up and make it to my sink and spew the contents of my stomach (a piece of toilet paper containing the powderized MDMA pills, not yet completely dissolved). My nose and throat burn and my reflection terrifies me. My face is beat red and my pupils are gigantic. The visuals are getting more intense, it seems like everything around me is moving and swaying with the "waves" of air I mentioned before. I feel this trip is still picking up strength and I am scared to where it may lead. I lie back down in my bed, relieved of nausea, but nonethelss experiencing intense dysphoria. I never really felt much of the MDMA kick in, and even if it was all digested, I think perhaps it was merely overpowerd by the 2C-E.

12:30 (T+3:00) I feel like I am either overdosing or belong in a psych ward. I doubt I will every be sane again. Everything I can see is terribly blurred and moving about. I feel extremely overheated and turn my ceiling fan on high. I hear a loud ringing sound in my ears and it seems logical that this is an ambulance coming to get me. Despite aleviating my nausea by throwing up, I am still experiencing a strong "body load" so to speak. Panicked, I get on my computer to see if there is anyone I can talk to who can help calm me down. I start up a few conversations on AIM but I feel so retarded that I can barely construct intelligible sentences. Paranoa and anxiety have increased tenfold. I feel I either am doomed to either get caught by my parents or overdose and die. Any form of communication seems nearly impossible. No closed eye visuals are present but when I open my eyes everything is chaos. My thoughts are even in a state of chaos. I try to reassure myself that everything will be okay but I can't reason with myself in this state. This is hell. I contemplate waking my parents and having them rush me to the hospital but decide to try to wait this out.

2:30 (T+5:00) Things are finally calming down, although I still feel severely altered and my pupils are still gigantic. I now feel confident I will survive the trip but am still experiencing extreme dysphoria.

4:00 (T+6:30) I wash down 3mg melatonin, 200mg 5-HTP, a multivitamin, 1000mg Kava Kava, and another herbal sleep aid with a glass of orange juice in an attempt to fall asleep. I have been listening to music in my bed and time seems to be passing much more quickly than before (thank god). I am still experiencing some minor visual distortions but nothing compared to before. Sanity shall prevail...

5:30 (T+8:00) Sometime around here I am finally able to fall asleep. I wake up at 11:00 feeling completely baseline but do have a bad hangover and feel emotionally and physically drained. I'm never touching "research chemicals" again and I hope others can learn from my difficult and irresponsible experience.
 
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Sounds like you discovered what happens when you mis-treat RC's. I'm glad to hear you came out 'alright'. 2ce is a very potent chemical and just the 16mg by itself would likely have been plenty sufficient to put you into a good trip. Again sorry to hear you had a bad experience and glad you made it out but before you continue on your psych path I hope you will think about what it is your are doing to yourself.
 
Yes I was aware that 32mg was a large dose heading in but I am generally pretty tolerant of pschadelic drugs. Even if I had only taken 16mg I do not believe I would have had an enjoyable trip; the vibe from 2C-E seemed so dinstinctly negative to me that I don't see how I could enjoy it at any dose. Anyways, I realize I was irresponsible and was guilty of mis-treating RCs, but my current stance that any use of RCs is extremely risky and should be avoided.
 
2c-e is an asskicker, especially 32mg. One of my friends, a hardhead who's done crazy amounts of acid, says 24 gets to be too much. 16mg probably would've made you very high, especially in conjunction with ecstasy pills.

Glad you didn't end up in the hospital -- the last thing we need is another RC user overdosing and causing mass hysteria.
 
Wait, you took 32MG!? Damn, 16mg is a STRONG dose for me. Anything higher would be terribly unpleasant...as you found out.
 
I take 8mg doses. We all make mistakes. You are also quite lucky that you did not LITERALLY end up in a psyche ward or hospital.

[edited out my insult, sorry bro you are right]
 
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DoubleTrouble said:
Yes I was aware that 32mg was a large dose heading in but I am generally pretty tolerant of pschadelic drugs. Even if I had only taken 16mg I do not believe I would have had an enjoyable trip; the vibe from 2C-E seemed so dinstinctly negative to me that I don't see how I could enjoy it at any dose. Anyways, I realize I was irresponsible and was guilty of mis-treating RCs, but my current stance that any use of RCs is extremely risky and should be avoided.


Yes, in your case, an individual without the patience or respect to slowly up the dosage, RCs should be avoided.
 
I'm glad you've chosen to take yourself out of the pool of potential idiots who'll end up a statistic. You definitely seemed born to it considering you took a hugh dose of an chemical you've never done before in combination with three MDMA pills. What the fuck were you thinking? This really is how people fuck up and die.
 
Wow, I love the criticism I keep getting for having posted this. Let's see, did I admit that I made a irresponible and unsafe choice? Yes. Did I state that I would never repeat the experience? Yes, in fact, I said I would never touch any RC again. I didn't post this to see everyone's evaluation of how stupid my decicion was, believe me, I realized that myself the hard way.

Yet with that being said, there are plenty of people who have taken higher doses of 2C-E and enjoyed the experience (and reading their reports is what prompted me to take such a large amount). Therefore, in the interest of harm reduction, I posted this to help educate people about the dangers of strong doses of RCs. As I already stated:

DoubleTrouble said:
I hope others can learn from my difficult and irresponsible experience.
 
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Why did you decide on 32 mg's? Just wondering what made you decide on such a heroic dose.

The thought of taking that much 2c-e along with some random x pills makes me shiver...
 
didn't you read any information on 2c-e before taking so large a dose? especially with the e?

jeez man. you know you're part of the problem, and the reason kids end up in hospitals.
 
The ecstasy pills tested for MDMA only. Yes I read extensive information about 2C-E including positive trip reports from doses of 30mg+. How am I part of the problem if I am spreading harm reduction information? My dosage clearly was irresponsible in retrospect but the proliferation of the dangers of 2C-E certainly is not.
 
holy christ I didn't even catch that you ate 3 epills too! my god man, i'm glad you're alive.
 
In retrospect, I really do not think I was close to ODing at all. At some point during the trip I became very paranoid and anxious and due to the "thought loops" I was experiencing I couldn't snap out of that mindset. I puked up a considerable amount of undigsted MDMA and perhaps 2C-E as well, so I wasn't feeling the full effects of 32mg 2C-E and 3 tabs of x. Nonetheless, it was quite a harrowing experience.
 
Interesting report, even though it wasn't the best decision, I still feel bad for you. Everyone makes mistakes, and this guy learned his lesson; give him a break.
 
First off, I want to say that you're a bad person and you're DEFINATELY going to HELL :X :X :X :X

;)


Seriously tho, it sounds like you had a bad trip just because you were all nervous going into it. Next time, dont be so nervous. It ticks me off that you wasted so much of a precious chemical. :(

And you should be greatful that it was just 2c-e and you went to bed six(!) hours after your trip. Seriously, how bad of a trip did you have if you could fall asleep six hours later? 8)

With a lot of RC's if you overdose, you end up with your head stuck up your rabit hole for Days.
 
I feel for you. I learned the hard way not to post about difficult drug experiences here and expect much support. Some people are supportive, but by and large it brings a lot of sadistic people out of the woodwork who add insult to injury by trying to humiliate and castigate a person who has made a mistake.

Drug users can be so intolerant (myself included), and considering what we're doing and that this is a harm reduction site; it's all pretty hypocritical and senseless to kick someone when they're down.

Recovering from a bad drug experience usually involves sadness, anxiety, depression, guilt and a myriad of other negative emotions. Adding to the pile doesn't help.

Mistakes happen.
 
Man... I'm not going to lecture you because it's already been done. But I do want to say that you probably would have had a very powerful but overall enjoyable experience if you had just taken 16mg and NO MDMA. There are numerous reports stating that 2C-E + MDMA just doesn't work out too well like it does with many other phenethylamines. 2C-E is an excellent chemical - one of the best there is, IMO - but it has to be treated with respect and caution. The dose-response curve is EXTREMELY steep, and some people are able to achieve a +3 state with as little as 8 or 10mg.

But I'm glad you're safe, and I'm sure you'll be fine. Just be more careful next time ;)

And I do appreciate you posting this report, because as you stated, it is contributing to harm reduction. If even one ignorant kid reads your report and decides to not do the same as you, then your experience will have been worth it.
 
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