2C Drugs Find Niche On Campus

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2C Drugs Find Niche On Campus
By: Chrissy DiNicola
02-02-2009
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/...rugs.Find.Niche.On.Campus-3607957-page2.shtml
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The idea of new designer drugs surfacing on Duke's campus may be a dizzying concept for most students, because 2C users at Duke said their community keeps a low profile.

But Vice President for Student Affairs Larry Moneta sent an e-mail to undergraduates Jan. 21 that mentioned the presence of "C2" drugs in the Duke community.

Tom Szigethy, associate dean and director of the Alcohol and Substance Abuse Prevention Center, said he had notified Moneta of the drugs' presence, noting that the psychedelic drug family Moneta meant to refer to is actually called 2C. Dean of Students Sue Wasiolek said 2C drugs first became a concern during Winter Break.

A Residence Coordinator was first notified of their existence on campus, Szigethy said. He noted that they are attractive to students because their recent creation leaves them free of legal penalties. Szigethy emphasized, however, that the drugs' negative ramifications are grave.

"The purpose of higher education is to educate the brain to higher capacity. What these drugs do is the exact opposite," Szigethy said.

He said use of 2C drugs cause the brain to become reliant on a substance to attain certain moods, ultimately stunting its growth. Szigethy noted that the drugs' purity makes them particularly dangerous, but the main threat to users is that the drugs' creator and contents are usually unknown, because dealers are financially motivated.

Although 2C drugs have not been studied extensively, there are documented cases of alterations in reality perception that persist after the period of intoxication, said Jeff Kulley, coordinator of Clinical Services and liaison for Alcohol and Substance Abuse Services for Counseling and Psychological Services.

Kulley noted that the drugs are perceived as safe because much of the information that is publicly available on 2C drugs comes from their proponents-who include little information on the drugs' risks.

David, a student whose name has been changed to protect his identity and who has used 2C-I and 2C-E, said no one he knows has experienced long-term psychological side effects from the drugs.

He said although the "trip" itself is at times unpleasant, lasting between six and eight hours, 2C drugs have helped him resolve personality problems. He noted that people using 2C drugs usually report having breakthroughs in the way they see themselves and the world.

"You know it's just a chemical you have taken a few hours earlier, but it presents itself as a great transubstantiation, a spiritual experience," David said. "My personal theory is that it stimulates the brain's natural neuroplastic capacities."

David said the 2C experience was impossible to generalize, but his was one where "form and content became indistinguishable." He added that users of 2C drugs study them rigorously because dosages must be calculated carefully.

Andrew, another student whose name has been changed to protect his identity, said 2C drugs gave him the revelation that his everyday worries and struggles were unimportant to his overall happiness and connectedness with the world.

"I would in no way say that it was something people should use frequently, or that it is something people would want to use frequently," Andrew said.

David said 2C drugs are used by a discrete subculture within the Duke community.

"You're not going to come across it," he said. "It may, in the future, spread beyond its consumer base and be used by other groups. But right now, it's not another ecstasy epidemic."

Moneta said campus policy on 2C drugs has yet to be decided, but added that Szigethy will advise him on the issue.

A single alert of the drug's presence does not signify any trend at Duke, Moneta said. But he noted that 2C drugs are appearing on campuses across the country.

"I thought this would be a good time to get ahead of the problem," Moneta said. "I wanted [that paragraph of the e-mail] to be a casual heads-up for those who may come across this in the future. I wanted students to understand that [2C drugs] are not safe."
 
This is kind of disturbing. Considering most college students don't own milligram scales, and most 2C-X compounds have a very sharp dose-response curve. Also the 2C-T-X drugs have been linked to fatalities.
 
"I thought this would be a good time to get ahead of the problem," Moneta said. "I wanted [that paragraph of the e-mail] to be a casual heads-up for those who may come across this in the future. I wanted students to understand that [2C drugs] are not safe."


Congratulations, you just introduced thousands of students to a new class of drugs. I'm sure your email will have the intended effect.
 
"The purpose of higher education is to educate the brain to higher capacity. What these drugs do is the exact opposite," Szigethy said.

He said use of 2C drugs cause the brain to become reliant on a substance to attain certain moods, ultimately stunting its growth.

eh?!


Sounds to me that there are some intelligent people using these substances in a controlled and sensible way. They are not abusing them or popularising them and they are legal, so where is the problem?
 
Hmm. I overdid it with 2cs a year or so ago. I lost interest in my studies and tripping took precedence. I sorted that out before it became much of an issue, though. That was my fault, not the drugs.

I'm going to assume that there will obviously be people who will abuse them at college, because there tend to be enough students, especially younger ones, who will pretty much abuse anything to get fucked up. I don't see anything wrong with the chemicals themselves, though. From my personal experience, it seems that most people who will experiment with RCs tend to be fairly intelligent and try to go about it all very safely.

It was interesting to see that they are getting in the news like this.
 
eh?!


Sounds to me that there are some intelligent people using these substances in a controlled and sensible way. They are not abusing them or popularising them and they are legal, so where is the problem?

exactly. And now lots of idiots will know about them because of his half assed public email. Good work chief.
 
eh?!


Sounds to me that there are some intelligent people using these substances in a controlled and sensible way. They are not abusing them or popularising them and they are legal, so where is the problem?

2c-x substances are illegal in the U.S. and the U.K.
 
who cares there illegal anyway.. more the merryer.. maybe we get a 2c-will-set-you-free phenominia like the acid in the 60s xD
 
2c-x substances are illegal in the U.S. and the U.K.

I know they are illegal in the UK, but thought they were a grey area in the US?

Besides, I was going on this quote in the article, "He noted that they are attractive to students because their recent creation leaves them free of legal penalties.". I should have know that to be factually incorrect as well! :)
 
In the United States, 2c-b is illegal. Chemicals such as 2c-i and 2c-e are analogues of 2c-b and have the same punishment.

EDIT: This is what I got from erowid,

2C-I is unscheduled in the United States. It is likely that it would be considered an analog (of 2C-B), in which case, sales for human consumption or possession with the intent to ingest could be prosecuted under the Federal Analogue Act.

There are currently several cases pending in U.S. federal court against online vendors for selling research chemicals. These cases may address the question of whether this chemical could be legally defined as an analog of a scheduled substance. We are unaware of any cases against individuals for possession alone (7/24/04).
 
Fuck I really hope the RCs remain an esoteric subculture and not mainstream. Cuz we all know what happens when substances go mainstream [h y s t e r i a] [p a n i c] [c r i m i n a l i z a t i o n]
 
and the dumb fuck couldn't even name them right in his selfriteous news letter..
 
He said use of 2C drugs cause the brain to become reliant on a substance to attain certain moods, ultimately stunting its growth.

^wtf?

if someone is reliant on tripping their balls off there are plenty of drugs besides 2c's. ;)

it's probably better that kids are doing 2c's instead of shit piperzine 'ecstasy pills.' I'd love to see 2c's get popular...until people started pressing bunk 2c's.:\
 
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