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2C-D - First time - Comparisons to 2C-I (or not)

TheMMT

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Wow! Looks like my report got put under announcements.. I'm honored ;)

It's been over 2 weeks now since my 1st 2C-D experience, and i figure in the name of curiosity and perhaps harm reduction, I should describe what this chemical has done to us.

The closest thing I can compare it to would be 2C-I, although the feel of the two substances is nothing alike.

After doing the requisite research, I came to determine that 40mg, while a tad sensationalized in some reports, would prove a nice starting ground for me and my girlfriend to try. Both of us have experience with 2C-I, having enjoyed effects as low as 6mg each to getting amped up on 20mg.

On a side note, why do so many people tak 20mg of 2C-I their first time? That stuff cracked me out in a STRONG way when we took that much, and it won't happen again ;) Anyway...

My girl, not having done my research, hears the '40mg' mark and thinks 30mg will do. I talk her up to 35mg for the both of us.

My scale only measures to the nearst 2mg (those 1mg scales are pricey!) so I measured out 70mg, poured it into a glass of coke, made sure it was all dissolved, and poured the coke into 2 glasses, which we then imbibed.

The trip reports on here re: 2C-D are accurate. 1st, let me say the stuff doesn't taste as horrible as 2C-I (which compared to OTHER Royal Crowns, is almost palatable), and their was no taste when mixed in the drink. Also, 2C-D is a white fluffy powder, not a HORRIBLE TAN POWDER THAT STICKS TO EVERYTHING AND IT'S MOTHER like 2C-I :) Sorry, I'm just sick of loosing 10mg 2C-I stuck to the tray each time.. but anyway.

Effects start somewhat abruptly at 25 minutes, and ramp up quickly in intensity until about an hour, maybe hour and half (can't remember, it was a while ago). First thing I noticed around 30 minutes besides the mental 'feel' was a vague stomach clenching. I get this on 2C-I when I come up to - kind of a tightness in the stomach (not solar plexus), accompanied in extreme cases (i.e. 20mg) with nausea and even vomitting.

I was lying next to my girl observing my rapidly changing world, and I commented that if the stomach load would just go away, I'd be in fantastic shape. Well, it did at about an hour (once I'm UP, I'm usually good - the comeup of psychedelics for me is always a bit rough) and I felt great. My girl, who usually gets no body load from 2C-I, had the same effects as I did, but they took longer to hit and persisted a bit longer. This was a little distressing to her, as she normally doesn't get any body load, but nothing she couldn't stand - just a slight discomfort.

My girl usually gets better visuals on 2C-I she says, but for me, 1 hour into 2C-D, I was experienceing HEAVY visuals. For instance, I looked over at my shade (a large colorless swath of material) and saw superimposed over it south american indian art of the most beautiful calibur. It could be mayan or Aztec, I'm not sure - but undeniably of that culture and style. This was a theme I would see repeated over the course of the night. The material was very visual and posessed an "eerie" feeling for us that was not present with 2C-I. I like that feeling a lot. It reminded ME of my old school lsd and mushroom trips. The "eerie" feeling is totally different than 2C-I.

Another thing, is that 2C-D is not at all stimulation like 2C-I. I see why people call 2C-I so stimulatuing now - 2C-D is almost 'relaxing' in comparison. There's almost a feeling of slight drunkeness the first hour and a half, followed by a nice but not as introspective as 2c-I mind trp, filled with general musings and discussions. As was mentioned in somebody else's report, we were quite happy to just sit - on 2C-I, if I get up, its as though my legs are battery powered and will start walking by themselves.

*POSSIBLE HYPE ALERT*

We were discussing once up the claims of a few that this drug is a 'smart drug'. I told her that from my scientific view, there was NOTHING to back that up.

FWIW though, I was music surfing, and when I stumbled onto classical music something just "CLICKED" in both of us. Here, here was the PERFECT music for this trip. And it was. I don't know if that means anything, but never on a psychedelic substance has one 'type' of music seemed to natural, to fit so well.

How the 2 preceeding paragraphs are related, if at all, is something for you to decide.

Conversation was cheerful and interesting, and we were quite content for her to lay in my bed, and me by my computer, for most of the trip. Sexual relations of any sort would not be possible - closing one's eyes up to the 4 hour mark would reveal lovely CEVs, and make you laugh and not being able to concentrate on smooching/screwing. It's hard to make it when both partners keep bursting out in peels and peels of laughter. Physically I was fine - there was no absorbtion of the penis by the body, as can happen with say.. Methylone :) The visuals were just too hillarious to concentrate on anything but the trip for a while ;)

At 4 hours, the visuals seemed to abruptly stop, and by 4.5 I thing we were completely down (although some cannabis had been consumed, so such matters are a little more clouded).

And of course, a minimal amount of cannabis helped wonders with nausea and body load and synergized in a very attractive way. All in all, I would say that it was a good experience, very interesting, and I'm planning on trying it out again say at about 50mg in the future - I think this stuff has some potential to be 'deeper' that 2C-I.. even though before I said the stuff is less introspective.

By that I mean, 'deeper' as a psychedelic, even though 2C-I makes you looked within YOURSELF (and in my case, think of every tangent of everything that I think.. everything is everything!).

I think I'm definetly going to need some more experimentation to see the true face of this thing. 35mg seems as though it was still teasing the surface.

Play carefully :) Please contribute if you have questions or any smart comments.
 
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. Also, 2C-D is a white fluffy powder, not a HORRIBLE TAN POWDER THAT STICKS TO EVERYTHING AND IT'S MOTHER like 2C-I :) Sorry, I'm just sick of loosing 10mg 2C-I stuck to the tray each time.. but anyway.

2c-i isn't a tan powder.
 
Is that all you have to add ?

2C-I is not white.

Have anything constructive, "bill hicks" ?
 
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Wow, I have heard many call 2C-D a dud, and many say it is wonderous, but that is simply amazing.

On the scale note, try taking a capsule, putting the powder in the capsule, and then weighing it, it seems to work best, and no licking the scale or losing powder to the weighing tray. :)

Nice report, though I feel that for that chem, 55mg would be about right for me, since my doses on phens seem to be high. Just look at my newly posted 2C-E report, and you will see evidence of that. :)
 
Careful with that line of thinking MagickalKat777!!! I thought the SAME thing (my tolerance to 2c's is pretty high), and went for it, and while it was not ego-shattering, I was still blown away from the effects, so much so that I could not be in the same room with guests who showed up to visit me and my flatmates, and had to hide and trip out alone. I'm still writing up the trip report, but next time I'm dropping back to 40 mgs for sure, and maybe work my way back up again!

Oh, and it DEFINITELY ain't a dud!!!
 
"although the feel of the two substances is nothing alike."
I totally agree which begs the question of why you then go on to compare them
 
Well, I have seen the already overwhelming popularity of 2C-I skyrocket. Indeed, 2C-I was the first phenethylamine based psychedelic I ever touched. And like most people who use 2C-I, I liked it. I liked it a lot. But the stimulation and repeated dosing left me all to familiar with the chemical's effects, so I figure I wanted to try something similar but not too similar. 2C-B ? Sounds great but only available in japan. 2C-C? Sounded too light and boring. 2C-E? Sounded deep and not fun. 2C-T-X? Sounds like it's not worth it (except maybe 2c-t-21..)

But 2C-D, now THAT one sounded nice. The 2 carbon version of the infamous DOM of the 60's!? There's some colorful history. And it's a colorful substance.

So to wrap it up, I think there's a lot of people who have done 2C-I and I'm hoping this report will guide them in making good future decisions regarding their personal right to use substances.
 
All the 2C-I I've ever seen was white :p

Can you describe the "eerie" feeling? I think I know what you mean, comparing mescaline or 2C-B with 2C-I, for example. Mescaline feels like it is a spirit guide, and 2C-B also gives me a sense that there is some "being" in charge of the trip besides myself. With 2C-I there is nothing but intoxication and nice daytime visuals.
 
^ i found the same thing except for one time when 2c-i showed me the light. Since then its' only given me headaches- maybe i should get hold of some of MMT's tan stuff LOL. (btw i wasn't trying to troll your thread it's just that from what i've seen 2c-i is a white substance)

interesting report- think i'll indulge when my exams are over.

p e a c e
 
Very nice report. I too found 2C-D to be fantastic. Much better than I figured it would be. I had it at 40mg. My question is, is 2C-I the only other PEA you have taken? I am just wondering since you didn't compare it to other PEAs.

And I wonder why your 2C-I is tan?? It should be a gleeming white.
 
LOL OMG. Ok, I have had 3 different batches of 2C-I, 2 from the 'usual suspects' and 1 synthesized by my friend - of those, not one sample was a "white" powder, although the originally mentioned "tan" is closer to brown, so I guess you could call it white.

2C-I is an OFF-WHITEish powder though. 2C-D? Clearly, the stuff is a very nice fluffy white.. hold the 2 chems side by side, and you can see what I mean by saying that 2C-I is not white.

BTW, my friend used something a novel synthesis not described in PiHKAL, and the stuff still wound up being that same super sticky bitter crystal :)

I just looked again at all 3 samples. All 3 are a tad different, but none can qualify as white. Maybe offwhite or kiff-colored, but definetly not white. I gotta imagine though that whatever people are getting in terms of 2C-I, it has to look like the same stuff. Maybe it's beige. I dont know, the longer I look the hard it is to tell.

Let's leave it as 2C-D is a gleeming white compared to 2C-I, which an be offwhite. And sticky as hell.

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Bluedolphin: Regarding the 'eerie' feeling - I dont think 35mg was really enough for 2C-D to show its true face. But while peeking, the "eerie" feeling was there. It was a deep feeling.. the best I can compare it to is the feeling I get on old school psychedelics, i.e. lsd or mushrooms. It's hard to describe in words - I'm not good at these things.

There's a feeling that "oh boy, this is is kind of wierd", in a sensory way that 2C-I doesn't provide. I would say the substance doesn't seem to be as introspective as 2C-I.. on 2C-I my mind is cranked, and EVERYTHING reminds me of EVERY tangent that could be attatched, which then in turn remind me of every one of THEIR tangents... in short, everything is everything.

There was none of that on 2C-I. It just felt more sensory, clearly hallucinogenic (my visual field was amazing), but lacking the deep headspace of 2C-I. At the same time, my 35mg 2C-D experiment was almost more 'ecompassing' than say 10-12 2C-I.

2C-I has been done out in a public setting between a group, with hillarious and fantastic results. I am not sure the same could be done with even the 35mg of 2C-D. Higher dosages definetly need to be explored. How nice that the weather is getting warm..
 
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Nice report. This substance sounds interesting, as many of the 2C's have to me. Might have to indulge in the near future.

(btw: I placed a small pile of 2c-i next to a pile of cocaine and the color seemed to be very, very close. the 2c-i was just as white. it didnt 'shine' as much though. my stuff seems to be plain white)
 
just adding another perspective: the only 2CI i've ever seen has been white and fluffy. Definitely white, not tan.
 
Those who call 2C-I white need to view it next to 2C-D. That perception will be readily fixed, once it is realized what white is vs. slightly offwhite.
 
first batch of 2c-i I recieved from a well known RC company was off-white/brown in colour compared to the 2C-E and 2C-T2. Second batch was completly white. First batch had REALLY strong visual effects compared to second, the body load seemed to predominate.

And on a side note my 2CT-21 is an almost grey colour....
 
Man, don't let's turn this into the "2C-I Isn't Beige Thread", but yeah, my 2C-I is pretty damn close to gleaming white. Call it Dover White, or chalk white, or pasty white, but please, don't call it tan. ;)

Excellent report, my man. I dig your style. Can't wait to try 2C-D.

2C-T-X? Sounds like it's not worth it (except maybe 2c-t-21..)

Eh, my trials so far with -21 have been pretty underwhelming. I thought from the reports that it would be better than it's been so far, for me. I'm more interested to try 2C-T-2 now.

VB
 
Any 2c-X I've seen has been gleaming white also, even when held next to other chemicals or a white sheet of paper. It could be different salts that make them off-white, but I have no idea. I only know that the ones I've seen are all definitely pure bright white.
 
Phikal didn't give 2C-D a good wrap I thought. But from what I've been reading it's one to try, mine should arrive soon and i'll get experimenting.

Minimal body load on this one?
 
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