Juggalotus
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2C-D and 2C-E - First PEA combo - Perfect mix
Well, this is to be my second TR so again bear with me.
Exp. Date July 11, 2004
Well, I had been through a period of cooling off with the tripping. As great as some things are, it loses its magic and purpose if used too frequently. I had not consumed any kind of Tryp or PEA in 4 weeks or so, and was feeling that door opening itself to me and inviting me right on in. I had to answer to this call.
I had read of similar experiences with this combination. The person reported using quite a bit more than I was comfortable with as far as a starting dose. The experience reported was similar to gel tabs or blotter LSD back in the early 80's. I have had some incredible experiences with gel tab LSD, so I became very interested.
So my day started off at around noon when my fiancee' and I both rolled out of our cozy bed. I did not really plan on tripping this day, but I think the little vials in my closet had other plans.
We did our basic running of errands for the day and got back home. I had to mow the grass, so I got started on that right away. It took me damn near 2.5 hours to mow it all. When I got back in, I noticed I had gotten sunburnt to quite a bad degree, on my back and arms. This I think, would be a factor in the loss of energy I had for the whole day.
I had been thinking of this combo all day and could not get the thought to escape my mind. I finally asked my fiancee' if she would in fact like to go on a 'journey' with me. I was kind of surprised when she said she didn't feel up to it. This really bummed me out, we ALWAYS trip together, so I felt a little uncomfortable with dosing around her when she was not on my level. She reassured me many times that she would be fine with it, so I decided to make up my mind on whether or not to mix and match or just stick to the safe ones I know. I knew I wanted to try the mix, just from the simple fact that I had been infatuated with the thought since I had read about it. So here is the story:
10mg 2C-E + 52mg 2C-D
The 2C-E was the remaining last 10mg I had, but yet a perfect amount. After weighing, I mixed this into a little kool-aid, swirled it around, drank and rinsed the cup with some more kool-aid. I had not eaten but 3 eggs around noon, so I felt that my stomach was mostly empty of solid contents.
First ingestion: 6:10 pm
*NOTE - It is important that I note how these were ingested at intervals of time. I chose to do so because of the long onset of 2C-E. This one inparticular takes me about 1.5 - 2 hours to fully develop. While 2C-D takes roughly .5 hour to 1 hour to come on for me. I wanted to ride them both at the same time for a full effect.
I had already measured out the 2C-D, after I let the first dose of 2C-E settle in, I dumped the fluffy white powder into - yes, another cup of kool-aid. By this time I was sure that the 2C-E had in fact absorbed for the most part. This cup was sipped for about 15-20 mins (it was a large cup). By the time I had finished the drink, it was about 7pm. So I figure the time of the second ingestion was around 6:45.
Second ingestion: 6:45pm - 7:00pm
T = 7:00pm
T+ 00:30
I busied myself during the ride up with a lot of pacing and thinking. I found myself staring out the front window of the house, watching my fiancee' speak with her close relative on the telephone. My presence was unknown to her as she spoke into the phone. But I did find this to be very relaxing and appreciative as hell to watch the woman I have dedicated myself to. It was then that I got my first alert. I was noticing my brain shifting gears into observer mode. I decided to walk (pace) around a little and ease the tension in my body. The more I paced, the further I went. So before long, I was walking an actual path in the carpet, from the living room, to the hall and back again. I would always stop just for a second to gaze out the window at my rapidly changing environment. I started to get a little warm from the pacing and probably the dosing as well so I went into my bedroom and turned on the A/C. I layed on our bed for a bit, helping myself deal with the small amount of nausea I was getting.
T+ 00:45
I was watching the comforter on our bed and the designs were starting to 'boil' a little bit and I had very definite trails. This is when I decided to get up and go check on my girl. I got up, still have nausea, and walked out of the bedroom and she was off the phone. It had only been 15 mins??!! There was a large amount of time dilation, and I was rocketing up faster and faster every second that went by. I couldn't stop looking at the clock, I do this a lot on mushrooms too. I admit now that I felt a little nervous on the way up with the combo and all, but it also felt very natural at the same time, so that calmed me a little. During this time the feeling was a constant push, further into the clouds. It did not feel like a very forceful push, but I felt very propelled. I was in for one hell of a ride I kept thinking. I thought about walking around some more to ease the uneasy feelings I would get, but they would always pass quickly as I got so much higher. I sat with my fiancee' on the couch and she asked how I was doing, I told her I was going up real quick. She asked me if I wanted to smoke a bowl out of the bong, and I said yup! This helped the nausea quite a bit, but turned my head into something completely different than was I had been experiencing before. I was rocketing even further and faster now, and I remember telling her this and then sitting/laying on the floor under the moving ceiling fan.
T+ 1:00
I have music playing in the background, it is the radio, a soft rock station my fiancee' was listening to now. I noticed that I was sweating profusely, it was a warm day, and I was pretty sun-burnt, but I was sweating more than normal. After a while of lying down and listening to the music, the feeling of nature calling felt present. I ventured into the bathroom, my balance and coordination was completely shot to shit. I finally made it there, HAD to look in the mirror (is it just me?) and noticed that my pupils were almost as large as the color in my eye, so I took a few pictures with my digital camera (check out my avatar). I then remembered I had to piss, and while standing there, I felt like I was in an open field just letting loose, everything in my vision was waving in rhythm like wind blowing trees. I was still feeling pretty nausiated, so I went back into the living room and despite feeling barely able to walk, I paced around again for a little while just staring at everything 'happening'.
T+ 1:30
Right now, I am feeling that this is still only the beginning, and yet with a lot more to come, it felt very welcome yet still very intense. Still sweating lots, I lay back on the couch and everything I focused on seemed to take on a plastic, almost fake look. It was still very light outside, and I wanted to enjoy some of the light left. I got off the couch, and stood by the door, looking out the window, everything looked incredible. Objects appeared far more beautiful than I imagined I could ever see. I went back and forth from the front door and the sliding glass door, which looks out onto our 10 acres of grass and trees. I wanted badly to go for a walk in the field, but could not muster the energy physically to go for a walk. I could however stand and stare at all of the excellence presented before me in nature.
The wind was blowing just a slight bit and caused a very interesting rippling effect on the grass, which had a lot of pattern to it. It almost literally looked as though huge snakes were moving on set courses through the grass, not being able to see them, but the only grass moving and being pushed around. I noticed tears coming from my eyes for no apparent reason, which usually happens when I am tripping real hard. I stood here for a good half hour. After a while, my fiancee' came and stood next to me, put her arm around me and asked me "What do you see? You have been here for a while, just looking." I said "I wish I could tell you what I see, but words cannot possibly justify the feelings or visions I am seeing." Again everything looked plastic, although I would describe it more of a painting like appearance. The field looked like a work of art, each piece brushed on with careful strokes. I had an overwhelming sense of euphoria and joy. I was incredibly happy and felt free. I also felt like I did not deserve to feel or experience such incredible and profound things. This was probably the most memorable part of my experience, feeling so great and content.
At this point, time gets a little distorted and lost, so I will do my best for time.
T+ 2:30
Something diverted my attention from the field, and it was a dedication on the radio that described me and my fiancee' almost to a tee, it made me feel like I wanted to cry. I then directed my attention to her, and sat next to her and just looked at her. Then the song came on and it sucked, so I finally put on some of my music. Pink Floyd: Division Bell, beautiful music.
My girl got up and went into the bedroom, and brought out 5 N20 cartridges, it was all that was left. I was skeptical on doing nitrous just yet, but then I thought 'If I am at my peak, then this should push me through' and so I cracked one into a balloon, and then another for her.
We lay back and take deep breaths to oxygenate and expand our lungs. After about 2 minutes of that, we put the balloons to our lips. First inhale, I hold it and exhale back into the balloon, everything turns red. I then again inhale and exhale about 3 more times. I am at the peak of peaks, I can't feel anything, I can't hear anything, and barely see, except white. Then slowly I get my hearing back in waves, I am VERY high right now. I sat up and made sure I was still alive then I smoke a cigarette.
T+ 3:00 - 4:00
Whippet was nice and rather mindblowing on this level. We decided to smoke another bowl out of the bong, so we did that. I felt no nausea anymore and only felt a little tense and rather good. It is starting to get pretty dark now, and I miss my field. She was getting a little restless, so we merged to the bedroom where it was nice and cool. She watched TV while I ignored it and spaced off into the ceiling. I was still very high, but the peak was fading and I could feel it leaving. It seemed a little soon, but I think that was because of the short acting 2C-D, I can always feel the comedown from the peak. I definitely still felt the 2C-E, as I was a little restless and very spacy.
I do believe that the 2C-D increased the effects of the 2C-E a lot more than I anticipated. I just layed in my bed staring and pondering thought, watching the ceiling wiggle. We decide to finish the nitrous, so we commenced to fill some balloons. Definitely made me realize how high I still was. I remembered I had some Rocky Road ice cream left in the freezer, got that. OH MY GOD, this tastes WAAAAAYYY TOOO GOOOOD. That was gone quickly.
T+ 4:00 - 7:00
I put in some South Park episodes, now feeling more grounded, the colors were astoundingly bright and pretty. I couldn't really follow the story though, my mind was still wandering around a lot. I decide it is time to relax a little, so I took a klonopin and had a drink.
I watched a bunch of episodes, just being fascinated with the brightness of the colors and how great it looked. I remember staying up for quite a while, in fact my fiancee' fell asleep before me if I remember right. It gets a bit fuzzy after this, it was getting late. Sleep did come easily though after about 8 hours of bliss.
Conclusion
Wow! I think this is by far one experience I will remember forever. Not every trip leaves me feeling this pure and astounded. I felt a definite strong +++ 1/2, and during the half hour staring at the field I would say just a bit more, but not a ++++. Very very close, but not quite there. This was an incredible experience and exhausting as well. If you choose to play with this mix, make sure you know your limits, and your chemical tolerances well, because 10mg of 2C-E would not normally do that much for me. But mixed with the 2C-D, it was a completely different story.
Much Love and Be safe!
Well, this is to be my second TR so again bear with me.
Exp. Date July 11, 2004
Well, I had been through a period of cooling off with the tripping. As great as some things are, it loses its magic and purpose if used too frequently. I had not consumed any kind of Tryp or PEA in 4 weeks or so, and was feeling that door opening itself to me and inviting me right on in. I had to answer to this call.
I had read of similar experiences with this combination. The person reported using quite a bit more than I was comfortable with as far as a starting dose. The experience reported was similar to gel tabs or blotter LSD back in the early 80's. I have had some incredible experiences with gel tab LSD, so I became very interested.
So my day started off at around noon when my fiancee' and I both rolled out of our cozy bed. I did not really plan on tripping this day, but I think the little vials in my closet had other plans.
We did our basic running of errands for the day and got back home. I had to mow the grass, so I got started on that right away. It took me damn near 2.5 hours to mow it all. When I got back in, I noticed I had gotten sunburnt to quite a bad degree, on my back and arms. This I think, would be a factor in the loss of energy I had for the whole day.I had been thinking of this combo all day and could not get the thought to escape my mind. I finally asked my fiancee' if she would in fact like to go on a 'journey' with me. I was kind of surprised when she said she didn't feel up to it. This really bummed me out, we ALWAYS trip together, so I felt a little uncomfortable with dosing around her when she was not on my level. She reassured me many times that she would be fine with it, so I decided to make up my mind on whether or not to mix and match or just stick to the safe ones I know. I knew I wanted to try the mix, just from the simple fact that I had been infatuated with the thought since I had read about it. So here is the story:
10mg 2C-E + 52mg 2C-D
The 2C-E was the remaining last 10mg I had, but yet a perfect amount. After weighing, I mixed this into a little kool-aid, swirled it around, drank and rinsed the cup with some more kool-aid. I had not eaten but 3 eggs around noon, so I felt that my stomach was mostly empty of solid contents.
First ingestion: 6:10 pm
*NOTE - It is important that I note how these were ingested at intervals of time. I chose to do so because of the long onset of 2C-E. This one inparticular takes me about 1.5 - 2 hours to fully develop. While 2C-D takes roughly .5 hour to 1 hour to come on for me. I wanted to ride them both at the same time for a full effect.
I had already measured out the 2C-D, after I let the first dose of 2C-E settle in, I dumped the fluffy white powder into - yes, another cup of kool-aid. By this time I was sure that the 2C-E had in fact absorbed for the most part. This cup was sipped for about 15-20 mins (it was a large cup). By the time I had finished the drink, it was about 7pm. So I figure the time of the second ingestion was around 6:45.
Second ingestion: 6:45pm - 7:00pm
T = 7:00pm
T+ 00:30
I busied myself during the ride up with a lot of pacing and thinking. I found myself staring out the front window of the house, watching my fiancee' speak with her close relative on the telephone. My presence was unknown to her as she spoke into the phone. But I did find this to be very relaxing and appreciative as hell to watch the woman I have dedicated myself to. It was then that I got my first alert. I was noticing my brain shifting gears into observer mode. I decided to walk (pace) around a little and ease the tension in my body. The more I paced, the further I went. So before long, I was walking an actual path in the carpet, from the living room, to the hall and back again. I would always stop just for a second to gaze out the window at my rapidly changing environment. I started to get a little warm from the pacing and probably the dosing as well
so I went into my bedroom and turned on the A/C. I layed on our bed for a bit, helping myself deal with the small amount of nausea I was getting.T+ 00:45
I was watching the comforter on our bed and the designs were starting to 'boil' a little bit and I had very definite trails. This is when I decided to get up and go check on my girl. I got up, still have nausea, and walked out of the bedroom and she was off the phone. It had only been 15 mins??!! There was a large amount of time dilation, and I was rocketing up faster and faster every second that went by. I couldn't stop looking at the clock, I do this a lot on mushrooms too. I admit now that I felt a little nervous on the way up with the combo and all, but it also felt very natural at the same time, so that calmed me a little. During this time the feeling was a constant push, further into the clouds. It did not feel like a very forceful push, but I felt very propelled. I was in for one hell of a ride I kept thinking. I thought about walking around some more to ease the uneasy feelings I would get, but they would always pass quickly as I got so much higher. I sat with my fiancee' on the couch and she asked how I was doing, I told her I was going up real quick. She asked me if I wanted to smoke a bowl out of the bong, and I said yup! This helped the nausea quite a bit, but turned my head into something completely different than was I had been experiencing before. I was rocketing even further and faster now, and I remember telling her this and then sitting/laying on the floor under the moving ceiling fan.
T+ 1:00
I have music playing in the background, it is the radio, a soft rock station my fiancee' was listening to now. I noticed that I was sweating profusely, it was a warm day, and I was pretty sun-burnt, but I was sweating more than normal. After a while of lying down and listening to the music, the feeling of nature calling felt present. I ventured into the bathroom, my balance and coordination was completely shot to shit. I finally made it there, HAD to look in the mirror (is it just me?) and noticed that my pupils were almost as large as the color in my eye, so I took a few pictures with my digital camera (check out my avatar). I then remembered I had to piss, and while standing there, I felt like I was in an open field just letting loose, everything in my vision was waving in rhythm like wind blowing trees. I was still feeling pretty nausiated, so I went back into the living room and despite feeling barely able to walk, I paced around again for a little while just staring at everything 'happening'.
T+ 1:30
Right now, I am feeling that this is still only the beginning, and yet with a lot more to come, it felt very welcome yet still very intense. Still sweating lots, I lay back on the couch and everything I focused on seemed to take on a plastic, almost fake look. It was still very light outside, and I wanted to enjoy some of the light left. I got off the couch, and stood by the door, looking out the window, everything looked incredible. Objects appeared far more beautiful than I imagined I could ever see. I went back and forth from the front door and the sliding glass door, which looks out onto our 10 acres of grass and trees. I wanted badly to go for a walk in the field, but could not muster the energy physically to go for a walk. I could however stand and stare at all of the excellence presented before me in nature.
The wind was blowing just a slight bit and caused a very interesting rippling effect on the grass, which had a lot of pattern to it. It almost literally looked as though huge snakes were moving on set courses through the grass, not being able to see them, but the only grass moving and being pushed around. I noticed tears coming from my eyes for no apparent reason, which usually happens when I am tripping real hard. I stood here for a good half hour. After a while, my fiancee' came and stood next to me, put her arm around me and asked me "What do you see? You have been here for a while, just looking." I said "I wish I could tell you what I see, but words cannot possibly justify the feelings or visions I am seeing." Again everything looked plastic, although I would describe it more of a painting like appearance. The field looked like a work of art, each piece brushed on with careful strokes. I had an overwhelming sense of euphoria and joy. I was incredibly happy and felt free. I also felt like I did not deserve to feel or experience such incredible and profound things. This was probably the most memorable part of my experience, feeling so great and content.
At this point, time gets a little distorted and lost, so I will do my best for time.
T+ 2:30
Something diverted my attention from the field, and it was a dedication on the radio that described me and my fiancee' almost to a tee, it made me feel like I wanted to cry. I then directed my attention to her, and sat next to her and just looked at her. Then the song came on and it sucked, so I finally put on some of my music. Pink Floyd: Division Bell, beautiful music.
My girl got up and went into the bedroom, and brought out 5 N20 cartridges, it was all that was left. I was skeptical on doing nitrous just yet, but then I thought 'If I am at my peak, then this should push me through' and so I cracked one into a balloon, and then another for her.
We lay back and take deep breaths to oxygenate and expand our lungs. After about 2 minutes of that, we put the balloons to our lips. First inhale, I hold it and exhale back into the balloon, everything turns red. I then again inhale and exhale about 3 more times. I am at the peak of peaks, I can't feel anything, I can't hear anything, and barely see, except white. Then slowly I get my hearing back in waves, I am VERY high right now. I sat up and made sure I was still alive
then I smoke a cigarette.T+ 3:00 - 4:00
Whippet was nice and rather mindblowing on this level. We decided to smoke another bowl out of the bong, so we did that. I felt no nausea anymore and only felt a little tense and rather good. It is starting to get pretty dark now, and I miss my field. She was getting a little restless, so we merged to the bedroom where it was nice and cool. She watched TV while I ignored it and spaced off into the ceiling. I was still very high, but the peak was fading and I could feel it leaving. It seemed a little soon, but I think that was because of the short acting 2C-D, I can always feel the comedown from the peak. I definitely still felt the 2C-E, as I was a little restless and very spacy.
I do believe that the 2C-D increased the effects of the 2C-E a lot more than I anticipated. I just layed in my bed staring and pondering thought, watching the ceiling wiggle. We decide to finish the nitrous, so we commenced to fill some balloons. Definitely made me realize how high I still was. I remembered I had some Rocky Road ice cream left in the freezer, got that. OH MY GOD, this tastes WAAAAAYYY TOOO GOOOOD. That was gone quickly.
T+ 4:00 - 7:00
I put in some South Park episodes, now feeling more grounded, the colors were astoundingly bright and pretty. I couldn't really follow the story though, my mind was still wandering around a lot. I decide it is time to relax a little, so I took a klonopin and had a drink.
I watched a bunch of episodes, just being fascinated with the brightness of the colors and how great it looked. I remember staying up for quite a while, in fact my fiancee' fell asleep before me if I remember right. It gets a bit fuzzy after this, it was getting late. Sleep did come easily though after about 8 hours of bliss.
Conclusion
Wow! I think this is by far one experience I will remember forever. Not every trip leaves me feeling this pure and astounded. I felt a definite strong +++ 1/2, and during the half hour staring at the field I would say just a bit more, but not a ++++. Very very close, but not quite there. This was an incredible experience and exhausting as well. If you choose to play with this mix, make sure you know your limits, and your chemical tolerances well, because 10mg of 2C-E would not normally do that much for me. But mixed with the 2C-D, it was a completely different story.
Much Love and Be safe!
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) I will end the Floyd debate.