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2C-B Vs. 2C-I

For me 2CI is nothing at all like 2CB, tho it's closer to 2CB than anything else I've taken, if that makes any sense...
Of all the PEA's I've tried 2CI is my least favorite, I just don't get off on it.. Is too mild, nice for kicks and giggles but thats about it...
 
Originally posted by Murple:
In spite of what MGS said, most people I've spoken to who are very familiar with 2C-B say that 2C-I is damn similar... about as different as Valium is from Xanax. 2C-I is longer lasting and not quite as visual, but the effects are quite similar. Ann Shulgin has said that in her clinical experience, the two drugs are virtually interchangable.
Having tried both drugs, I agree with this statement. After all, they are analogs in the TRUE chemical sense of the word.
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I have to disagree about 2c-b and 2c-i being pratically the same, sure there is the general phen feeling to them, but 2c-i affects me very different in the end, 2c-i seem a more complex material where i always have drifted into very deep thinking.2c-b has that moment but not all the time.2c-i is also a more intense psychedelic in terms that it is more overwhelming then 2c-b if i have to compare 12 mg vs 28 mg 2c-b. The visuals are slightly different aswell, in conclusion i could tell 2c-i from 2c-b anytime.
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unfortunately i haven't tried 2cb yet, however i'm amazed at what doses some of you need for 2ci. I trip really good at 10mg, albiet it doesn't last as long. 7mg was also alotta fun.
 
for me, 2cb and 2ci are two completely different drugs. different visuals, different length of time and intensity, different mental journey and trip in general.
 
i've done 2c-i at 17.5 mg once. it was perhaps one of the greatest most rewarding trips i've ever had. amazing visuals, amazing insights. what's up with all the people "not impressed" with 2ci? it's one of the greatest tools i've used to date. up there with mushrooms and LSD.
 
i'm not 100 percent sure if I had taken 2C-B before
but i'm pretty sure that I did. Back then they called
it mescaline, but we all know now that it could not
have been true.

for those who didn't know, a decade
ago microdots (lsd) and what i believe was 2C-B
(in larger tablets) was called mescaline at the time.
Most people i think were fooled (including myself)
thinking real mescaline was active in micrograms.)

If what I had in the past was 2C-B then I definitely prefer
it over 2C-I. I remember on 2C-B a certain distinct
type of visual I have not seen on 2C-I or on any
other psychedelic. (multiple spinning kaleidescope pattterns
the size of a dime that swirled on all surfaces)

Both 2C-B and 2C-I had the same cartooning effect, and
intense color enhancement (pinks, yellows) but somehow
2C-I reminded me of what I used to call bad acid as
"strychnine acid" because of the speedy body load and
limited overall visuals.
 
treefingers49 said:
i've done 2c-i at 17.5 mg once. it was perhaps one of the greatest most rewarding trips i've ever had. amazing visuals, amazing insights. what's up with all the people "not impressed" with 2ci? it's one of the greatest tools i've used to date. up there with mushrooms and LSD.
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i found 2c-i impressive for the visual that it can produce. but i found it not impressive in the depth of the mental state, i've hadn't "revelation", it isn't a tool that make me think . whereas with the shroom you can also enjoy the feeling after the experience because you have discover things, thought about norm, things you can't think about when you're sober. in a coarse way : 2c-i is fun, shroom are "philosophic"

but, i've try 2c-i only once (20mg's) so it's a first impression.
 
2cb is great. i found it to be less nauseating than 2ci, even in combination with other drugs. in the rave scene 2cb is usually sold in combination with ecstacy so that can have an effect on peoples opinions.

personally i think 2cb is a better drug. having done both a number of times.
 
If you get it right, 2ci can be far more visual than any 2cb trip you'll ever take. Sometimes I have ucontrollable visuals that are out of this world, approaching low dmt dosages, while other times I may have none, at the exact same dosages.
 
I'd trade 5 grams of 2C-I for 100mg of 2C-B. Really.

2C-B visuals approach that of LSD in terms of variety, intensity, and resemblence. 2C-I visuals look like mescaline with much less meaning and creativity.

2C-B has a powerful euphoric push, like mdma but not as "shallow". 2C-I is almost neutral, and therefore I've found myself bored by 2C-I much of the time.

2C-B once gave me full-body muscle tremors. 2C-I almost always upsets my stomach and gives me sometimes-uncomfortable body stimulation.

The drugs aren't very similar at all. 2C-B is both more fun and more enlightening than 2C-I ever was at doses between 2mg and 21mg.
 
bluedolphin said:
I'd trade 5 grams of 2C-I for 100mg of 2C-B. Really.

2C-B visuals approach that of LSD in terms of variety, intensity, and resemblence. 2C-I visuals look like mescaline with much less meaning and creativity.

2C-B has a powerful euphoric push, like mdma but not as "shallow". 2C-I is almost neutral, and therefore I've found myself bored by 2C-I much of the time.

2C-B once gave me full-body muscle tremors. 2C-I almost always upsets my stomach and gives me sometimes-uncomfortable body stimulation.

The drugs aren't very similar at all. 2C-B is both more fun and more enlightening than 2C-I ever was at doses between 2mg and 21mg.
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Let's trade. 8)
 
2ci is more blurry and pattern/persian carpet based visuals. similar to mushrooms. 2cb as far as my experiences are concerned (snorted and eaten in a range of doses) tends to be more visualy convincing. like the visuals take shape to be things that arent actually there. like people iceskating on the dance floor. or people with bat wings, i thought a security guard with a flashlight was a car (headlights), but i still have my cognitive function. even at doses of 2ci where i loose my ability to talk and move properly i still do not achieve this level of believability. 2ci dumbs me down soo much. i mean its okay as a substitute but not nearly as cool as 2cb.

they are both great though. disosciative halucinagens rock!
 
Again, I have had 2ci visuals that just leave the barracades of persian carpet, MILD visuals. Agreed that most of the things don't look real, but I've had 3, possibly 4 experiences that just surpass any possible boundaries. I was floored by the intense visuals.

On that note, I had a friend on some rediculously laced shrooms who running around the block staring at the sidewalk yelling this carpet is beautiful! Then stops, a car pulls up to him, turns into a robot and flies away.
 
resurrecting this thread cause id like to try and elicit more peoples opinions on the comparison between -b and -i. i have a great deal of exp w i, i like the visuals, lack of mind-fuck, and vaguely molly-esque body feelings. my preferred dose is ~25mg

recently came upon 25 mg gel-capped white powders billed as 2c-b. assuming thats the case, how does 25mg of b compare to i.
 
I'd pick 2c-b over 2c-I.

Admittedly they're pretty similar, but 2c-b just does it better.
 
i keep hearing alot how 2c-I isnt very strong, or just a starter psych.

but in my experience 2C-I shows incredible potential for a very intense visual experience (at least in the 25mg range)

it is mild in the purely psychedelic sense, but it is a helluva good time
 
I have tried 2C-I twice... and both times I hated it... there were good moments, but overall it felt 'violent' and made me sick... when I'd chuck it was like 'chemical vomit' - all bubbly etc... The visuals I got were GREAT but I didn't like the feeling I got of being 'violently jolted' around not to mention the enormous headaches I got and how nauseous it made me feel.

I think my dose on both occasions was 10mg or 12mg...

As far as other psychedelics go, I have never had any bad experiences with mushrooms... but I have had a few weird experiences with acid - which could have very well been DOI - which I haven't knowingly tried yet.

For anybody that got the gassy chemical bubbly tummy on 2C-I - if you've had 2C-B did it have the same effect on you? ...and is it as much of a mindf*ck? I've always been curious about 2C-B, even before I tried 2C-I... but after my bad experiences with 2C-I it's made me really wary to try any other RC... sounds to me like 2C-B is 'milder' than 2C-I... just what I need :)
 
i tasted the 2c-b last night. it was very similar to 2c-i. the body feelings and sensations were very similar to 2c-i, perhaps a little milder. i didnt notice a particular greater warmth with b as opposed to i. however, the quality of visuals with b was much less impressive than i. for me, the visuals with deep color saturation and oscillating mottled textured are one of my favorite aspects. i felt the degree of headfuck was pretty low and comparable between the two.

basically, i dont think any gains experienced in positive body feelings were enough to offset the loss of visuals. ill give it another couple shots, but at first investigation i prefer i.

if you want something milder try 2c-c
 
stormyweathers said:
it is mild in the purely psychedelic sense, but it is a helluva good time
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I have had some good times on 2C-I.. it's one of those substances that lends itself to partying a bit easier than other psychs like LSD or psilocybin. Never tried 2C-B but I'd guess they are pretty damned close!
 
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