roganmaster
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Hey everyone, it's really been awhile since I've posted on here but I recently experienced 2C-B for the first time after years of searching and I thought I'd return to BL to offer my experience with this wonderful drug. I tested it with marquis, perfect reaction and everything.
Dose 18-20mg
Background with psychedelics: MDMA, LSD, Ketamine, Nitrous (if you can call it a psych :D ) and combinations of those substances... and some crazy unknown substance that was probably DOB or DOI that we had ingested believing it was LSD but was not actually LSD.
The trip:
It's been over a year since I have tried a new substance. I had almost given up completely on finding 2C-B on the west coast until my friends found a source and got me a single capsule. My interest re-ignited, I began reading Erowid and BL again to remind myself of the effects of Nexus. Having been such a long time since I've tried a new psychedelic, I began to experience those combined feelings of excitement and anxiety. I find anxiety to be very good for psychedelics. It seems like a responsible feeling to have.
I took all of the necessary steps to ensure that my trip would remain as pleasant as possible. I tripped with close friends who all have psychedelic experience. I did it in a house and neighborhood I felt very comfortable in. I gave myself several potential activities to do, ranging from whippets on the couch to painting, and also relaying my experience as it occurred to my girlfriend, C. The activities were of my choosing. I find that if I have too much direction on LSD, it never gets done... but if I don't have anything to do, the trip goes awry. I've learned that you should have activities to keep yourself occupied, but don't put anything in concrete as you may become disappointed if that doesn't happen.
I was alone in dosing 2C-B, but my friend, who we will call B, was on a very strong dose of LSD at the same time. We dosed in the late afternoon. About 30 minutes after dosing, the normal yet sweet caress of a psychedelic buzz was upon me. I was getting a mild body high (which usually makes me slightly dizzy and off balance, but not bad overall). I had a smile on my face, I was excited and talkative. I went to the bathroom, and imperfections on the wall started standing out to me, similar to how the initial stages of an acid trip makes me hallucinate.
B got very hungry and ordered a calzone from a parlor that is a block away. We decided to walk and pick it up. The hallucinatory effects of nexus had not quite taken hold yet, but I was feeling a familiar psychedelic "fog." We walked through the neighborhood. The sun seemed bright for the time of the day. Little things in bushes and trees stood out to me. I waited outside of the restaurant for B to pick up his calzone. I watched cars drive by. The street is typically loud and on LSD I would feel uncomfortable standing alone on a sidewalk with such busy-ness around me, but I was quite clear-headed despite being as high as I was.
We walked back and cracked open a box of whippits. It was around this time that the hallucinations started to take effect. They were gorgeous, the edges of the room moving up and down, almost as if the room had an alive quality to it. The ceiling tiles had parallel lines separating them and the lines would move towards the edges of the walls.
This entire time my mind tried to fit 2C-B into the framework that I had learned from LSD. I was constantly reminding myself that this was not LSD and that I would have to keep myself open rather than try to keep comparing the two. My problem was that if these hallucinations had been produced by LSD, I would have been tripping way harder than I normally do, which is why I have to remind myself that this is a completely different compound. Despite my constant comparison, I remained very clear-headed. My thoughts were not scrambled, and even though there was a bit of a fog, I was completely content with where I was in the trip. There was no genuine anxiety, just feelings of "I should be anxious because of my hallucinations, but for some reason I'm totally OK with where I am."
I read many reports (and heard from my friends from their experience with nexus) that you are very "ADD" (or have limited attention span) when using this psychedelic. You can't sit still or do one activity for more than 20 seconds according to reports. My experience was completely the opposite, I found it easier to concentrate on any particular activity than on MDMA or LSD. My girlfriend really likes to paint on LSD, I never liked it but this time I gave myself a chance to paint something and I completed it! It's very rare for that to happen to me.
At one point I went into my girlfriend's bedroom and stared at the blank ceiling. I started seeing Escher-like patterns on this white ceiling. They were gorgeous, and a completely new color-set. I find with LSD my hallucinations are categorized by what I call "organic" colors. They are a gradient that traverses between Red, Green, and Yellow. With 2C-B, the color set is completely new. I referred to them as "secondary" colors while on the trip. They were a light turquoise, light pink, and sometimes a bit of orange. These colors only appeared to me at a microscopic level and I had to relax my eyes to be able to see them. I ended up lying in bed for about 20 minutes, absolutely content with everything and I did not feel alone or anxious at all in the same way I would feel by doing the same activity on LSD.
I returned to my tripping friend who had been doing whippits to Karunesh's "Global Village" album. The scene we created in the living room was very calming and I found myself staring at the smoke of a burning stick of incense while inhaling balloons. Nitrous greatly intensified my closed-eye visuals, giving me moving persian-rug patterns within the set of secondary colors that I mentioned above. I discussed with C and B the differences I was noticing between nexus and LSD and they listened the way good trip-sitters do. I found that 2C-B takes some of the qualities that I love from acid such as the hallucinations and how everything becomes funny; as a result I laughed a lot at silly connections I'd make about the world. Other times, 2C-B became very intimate like MDMA and I found that there were euphoric moments where my senses were heightened and touching became more novel, like when I'm rolling.
I had a bit of stomach pain that was lessened by eating. It wasn't terribly uncomfortable, but it was present and a bit annoying. I'm familiar with having similar pains on LSD so this was nothing new to me. I find that it's usually just gas and a simethicone tablet lessens those feelings but I didn't have any around. I didn't expect to have any appetite on this drug, but like Shulgin said, I had a great appetite and eating also helped with my stomach pains.
Around T:+5 hours, the effects began to subside. I first noticed the lessening of the hallucinations. The walls no longer melted and the backdrop of the Escher patters began to dissipate. The secondary colors remained and subsided rather quickly and the "high" of it started to go away. There was no anxiety of coming down like MDMA. It just sort of happened. I was not left with any feelings of incompleteness or desire to continue tripping. I was just back to normal and that was that. Unlike LSD or MDMA, I probably could have gone to bed almost immediately after coming down because my CEVs were totally gone as well.
I absolutely loved the trip, but I'm going to explain my critique of 2C-B as a psychedelic.
For me, I like to use psychedelics to learn things. I love to walk away from LSD or MDMA with new and profound thoughts or ways of thinking, even if it's just tiny things. 2C-B offered me no profoundness at the dose I took.
Part of what I love about tripping or rolling is the feeling of "earning" the trip. LSD offers that "fog" that can be confusing and even frightening at times. I've had my ass kicked by LSD several times and when I look back to those feelings of being completely frightened and alone, I realize that it wasn't that bad but I still had the personal strength to get "through" it and there's a profoundness of working yourself out of negative thought loops. MDMA leaves me with slight feelings of depression in the days after, but for those few hours you are rolling, the extended hangover is worth it.
I didn't feel like 2C-B forced me to earn my trip. Everything was too perfect. Imagine taking only the positive physical parts of LSD and MDMA and combining them. What would you have? You'd have intense hallucinations, euphoria, a feeling of "oneness," enhanced senses, and zero comedown. That was 2C-B, and it was wonderful- but it felt like a manufactured high. I felt like it was customized to be exactly what I wanted but the trip didn't make me feel like it was "earned." It didn't have the organic qualities that I've come to love about LSD. If I wanted an almost 100% guaranteed good trip in a relatively large variety of settings, the dose of 2C-B I took would take me there.
2C-B was everything that I expected from it. It probably surpassed some of my expectations. It was amazing yet somehow I just feel like the trip was too easy. I hope to dose it again one day to see what else it might have to offer, possibly in a different setting. I will not ever try to throw myself into a bad situation just to see if Nexus offers me profundity, nor will I increase the dose to extreme levels. I'm not stupid like that and I'm not going to go looking for trouble because I know that psychedelics can offer trouble - Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not disappointed in the least bit, I just hope that my next experience offers me a bit "more."
Dose 18-20mg
Background with psychedelics: MDMA, LSD, Ketamine, Nitrous (if you can call it a psych :D ) and combinations of those substances... and some crazy unknown substance that was probably DOB or DOI that we had ingested believing it was LSD but was not actually LSD.
The trip:
It's been over a year since I have tried a new substance. I had almost given up completely on finding 2C-B on the west coast until my friends found a source and got me a single capsule. My interest re-ignited, I began reading Erowid and BL again to remind myself of the effects of Nexus. Having been such a long time since I've tried a new psychedelic, I began to experience those combined feelings of excitement and anxiety. I find anxiety to be very good for psychedelics. It seems like a responsible feeling to have.
I took all of the necessary steps to ensure that my trip would remain as pleasant as possible. I tripped with close friends who all have psychedelic experience. I did it in a house and neighborhood I felt very comfortable in. I gave myself several potential activities to do, ranging from whippets on the couch to painting, and also relaying my experience as it occurred to my girlfriend, C. The activities were of my choosing. I find that if I have too much direction on LSD, it never gets done... but if I don't have anything to do, the trip goes awry. I've learned that you should have activities to keep yourself occupied, but don't put anything in concrete as you may become disappointed if that doesn't happen.
I was alone in dosing 2C-B, but my friend, who we will call B, was on a very strong dose of LSD at the same time. We dosed in the late afternoon. About 30 minutes after dosing, the normal yet sweet caress of a psychedelic buzz was upon me. I was getting a mild body high (which usually makes me slightly dizzy and off balance, but not bad overall). I had a smile on my face, I was excited and talkative. I went to the bathroom, and imperfections on the wall started standing out to me, similar to how the initial stages of an acid trip makes me hallucinate.
B got very hungry and ordered a calzone from a parlor that is a block away. We decided to walk and pick it up. The hallucinatory effects of nexus had not quite taken hold yet, but I was feeling a familiar psychedelic "fog." We walked through the neighborhood. The sun seemed bright for the time of the day. Little things in bushes and trees stood out to me. I waited outside of the restaurant for B to pick up his calzone. I watched cars drive by. The street is typically loud and on LSD I would feel uncomfortable standing alone on a sidewalk with such busy-ness around me, but I was quite clear-headed despite being as high as I was.
We walked back and cracked open a box of whippits. It was around this time that the hallucinations started to take effect. They were gorgeous, the edges of the room moving up and down, almost as if the room had an alive quality to it. The ceiling tiles had parallel lines separating them and the lines would move towards the edges of the walls.
This entire time my mind tried to fit 2C-B into the framework that I had learned from LSD. I was constantly reminding myself that this was not LSD and that I would have to keep myself open rather than try to keep comparing the two. My problem was that if these hallucinations had been produced by LSD, I would have been tripping way harder than I normally do, which is why I have to remind myself that this is a completely different compound. Despite my constant comparison, I remained very clear-headed. My thoughts were not scrambled, and even though there was a bit of a fog, I was completely content with where I was in the trip. There was no genuine anxiety, just feelings of "I should be anxious because of my hallucinations, but for some reason I'm totally OK with where I am."
I read many reports (and heard from my friends from their experience with nexus) that you are very "ADD" (or have limited attention span) when using this psychedelic. You can't sit still or do one activity for more than 20 seconds according to reports. My experience was completely the opposite, I found it easier to concentrate on any particular activity than on MDMA or LSD. My girlfriend really likes to paint on LSD, I never liked it but this time I gave myself a chance to paint something and I completed it! It's very rare for that to happen to me.
At one point I went into my girlfriend's bedroom and stared at the blank ceiling. I started seeing Escher-like patterns on this white ceiling. They were gorgeous, and a completely new color-set. I find with LSD my hallucinations are categorized by what I call "organic" colors. They are a gradient that traverses between Red, Green, and Yellow. With 2C-B, the color set is completely new. I referred to them as "secondary" colors while on the trip. They were a light turquoise, light pink, and sometimes a bit of orange. These colors only appeared to me at a microscopic level and I had to relax my eyes to be able to see them. I ended up lying in bed for about 20 minutes, absolutely content with everything and I did not feel alone or anxious at all in the same way I would feel by doing the same activity on LSD.
I returned to my tripping friend who had been doing whippits to Karunesh's "Global Village" album. The scene we created in the living room was very calming and I found myself staring at the smoke of a burning stick of incense while inhaling balloons. Nitrous greatly intensified my closed-eye visuals, giving me moving persian-rug patterns within the set of secondary colors that I mentioned above. I discussed with C and B the differences I was noticing between nexus and LSD and they listened the way good trip-sitters do. I found that 2C-B takes some of the qualities that I love from acid such as the hallucinations and how everything becomes funny; as a result I laughed a lot at silly connections I'd make about the world. Other times, 2C-B became very intimate like MDMA and I found that there were euphoric moments where my senses were heightened and touching became more novel, like when I'm rolling.
I had a bit of stomach pain that was lessened by eating. It wasn't terribly uncomfortable, but it was present and a bit annoying. I'm familiar with having similar pains on LSD so this was nothing new to me. I find that it's usually just gas and a simethicone tablet lessens those feelings but I didn't have any around. I didn't expect to have any appetite on this drug, but like Shulgin said, I had a great appetite and eating also helped with my stomach pains.
Around T:+5 hours, the effects began to subside. I first noticed the lessening of the hallucinations. The walls no longer melted and the backdrop of the Escher patters began to dissipate. The secondary colors remained and subsided rather quickly and the "high" of it started to go away. There was no anxiety of coming down like MDMA. It just sort of happened. I was not left with any feelings of incompleteness or desire to continue tripping. I was just back to normal and that was that. Unlike LSD or MDMA, I probably could have gone to bed almost immediately after coming down because my CEVs were totally gone as well.
I absolutely loved the trip, but I'm going to explain my critique of 2C-B as a psychedelic.
For me, I like to use psychedelics to learn things. I love to walk away from LSD or MDMA with new and profound thoughts or ways of thinking, even if it's just tiny things. 2C-B offered me no profoundness at the dose I took.
Part of what I love about tripping or rolling is the feeling of "earning" the trip. LSD offers that "fog" that can be confusing and even frightening at times. I've had my ass kicked by LSD several times and when I look back to those feelings of being completely frightened and alone, I realize that it wasn't that bad but I still had the personal strength to get "through" it and there's a profoundness of working yourself out of negative thought loops. MDMA leaves me with slight feelings of depression in the days after, but for those few hours you are rolling, the extended hangover is worth it.
I didn't feel like 2C-B forced me to earn my trip. Everything was too perfect. Imagine taking only the positive physical parts of LSD and MDMA and combining them. What would you have? You'd have intense hallucinations, euphoria, a feeling of "oneness," enhanced senses, and zero comedown. That was 2C-B, and it was wonderful- but it felt like a manufactured high. I felt like it was customized to be exactly what I wanted but the trip didn't make me feel like it was "earned." It didn't have the organic qualities that I've come to love about LSD. If I wanted an almost 100% guaranteed good trip in a relatively large variety of settings, the dose of 2C-B I took would take me there.
2C-B was everything that I expected from it. It probably surpassed some of my expectations. It was amazing yet somehow I just feel like the trip was too easy. I hope to dose it again one day to see what else it might have to offer, possibly in a different setting. I will not ever try to throw myself into a bad situation just to see if Nexus offers me profundity, nor will I increase the dose to extreme levels. I'm not stupid like that and I'm not going to go looking for trouble because I know that psychedelics can offer trouble - Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not disappointed in the least bit, I just hope that my next experience offers me a bit "more."
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