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Phenethylamines 2C-B in small doses

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This weekend my friend is going to be playing music at a local bar and I really want to check it out, and I was thinking about taking some 2C-B. In the past I've taken 20mg, done that many times and it's typically a profound experience. It's never something that I can't manage, but I don't think I'd want to be in a public place, potentially around coworkers.

I'm curious what you would recommend for a dose where I could definitely feel it but not in a way where I'm really tripping, just enough to feel the music more intensely. 10mg? 15?

So far I have done around 15mg low dose experiments and running outdoors.

Today I have gone and tried 10mg during a work session writing code, and I have to say, it's a far better adjunct than caffeine. Which I have actually decreased my use of recently.

Has anyone explored much around the museum dose. I'm not talking about micro-dosing, effects are perceptible. I'm thinking of the 10-16mg range here.

Thoughts?
 
Something between 5 - 15 mg sounds reasonable for 2C-B. If it is around other people, I think 10 mg is adequate, if you have to talk to them, 5 mg is very safe but of course the effects could be mild. It would be best to try it out first.

I know it is a different drug, but I recently took 5 mg 2C-D to experiment with it as nootropic (did not work for me at the dose). 2C-D is perhaps 2/3 or 1/2 as potent as 2C-B, and even at that dose it had a noticeable effect on music appreciation.
 
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll probably try 10mg and see how it goes.
 
Interesting, I'll have to see if I can find some. I know 2C-B is probably the most common of the 2C's, but I'll look around 👀😊 Less tactile and more activating to the auditory senses would you say? Though for myself personally, I haven't experienced 2C-B to be incredibly activating somatically, not more than other psychedelics at least.
 
I know it is a different drug, but I recently took 5 mg 2C-D to experiment with it as nootropic (did not work for me at the dose). 2C-D is perhaps 2/3 or 1/2 as potent as 2C-B, and even at that dose it had a noticeable effect on music appreciation
I tried this a while ago but with BOD (Beta methoxy 2C-D). I've never tried 2C-D but I think they have a lot of similarities except BOD is more potent and last 4x longer. I found it worked great as a less pushy alternative to elvanse and as a general 'going out and doing stuff' psychedelic. Shame I only have 30mg of the stuff left it's a really interesting compound.
I'm curious what you would recommend for a dose where I could definitely feel it but not in a way where I'm really tripping, just enough to feel the music more intensely. 10mg? 15?
Maybe 12-15mg in your case. Anything below 20mg shouldn't be too distracting in a social setting.
 
Doesn't it also depend on whether or not it's HCl or HBr (or does anyone use freebase 2C-B)? I think the HBr is about 87% the potency by mass compared to the HCl. Is one more common than the other, and can they both be taken orally?
 
Yes, HBr is a little bit less potent. Both can be consumed orally. 2C-B freebase is irrelevant for the consumer. I don't know what is more common, and there is not really a simple test for the consumer. In the end what matters more is how you respond to it yourself. I can tell you 15 mg 2C-B HCl (I always talk about the hydrochloride unless otherwise specified) is too much for me if I expect talking to people who should not know I'm on something. Most likely they wouldn't notice but it would be uncomfortable for me.
 
How did I miss this lol... I just posted a thread on the same topic too...

Here's my just finished 9mg report :

2C-B - 9mg

8:50am. Dosed 2ml, at 5mg per ml of 2C-B. Expect the experience to be light, expect purity to be 75%. Which means it will really be 6mg. Dosing to test experience intensity, up to 15mg (3ml) next experiment. At home, safe place, mindset is good. LovelyWife was a bit reserved for the experiment, so will just advise after the fact.

+50, 9:40am. Something there, a relaxation in the background. I can move in and out of every day activities. Working at the moment is nice and pleasurable. Setting is great, hence everything seems a little amplified into “niceness”. Body awareness feels good. I’d say this is around 6/7mg, safely go up to 15mg next time.

+3:50, 12:40pm. Was actually more intense than I expected, probably higher purity. Tail end now, but successful, was quite rich around the 10:30am mark, a few waves. Music good, coding good, nice for repeats, maybe a tad higher at 12mg would be good for this. 15mg absolutely in public, will do that next trial.

+4:40 1:30pm. Still a little left, a bit tired. Not really the best option for focused work, but still productive, more so than with coffee. Definitely will need to do this at 15mg and with LovelyWife when time allows.
 
One thing to add, is that at 9mg, it's much easier to read others facial expressions and empathise. I think that at 15mg that might be exaggerated.
 
I've been microdosing* 2C-B lately with 5mg gummies maybe 1 or 2x a week. 5mg is just barely enough for me to feel it and I consider myself extremely sensitive and familiar with 2C-B.

I notice the stimulation more at low doses surprisingly. Not that I find it necessarily stimulating, but I just notice it more at low dose. Maybe at high dose I am usually in a stimulating environment and don't notice as much. I do find that it increases my productivity but more so during a physical activity. Cognition is largely unaffected at this dose, but when I'm tripping I often feel quite mentally lazy., At 5 mg there is minimal but noticeable color brightening, however I don't really get visuals at this dose. Maybe if I'm staring at a light with my eyes closed...

Been meaning to ask my old roommate to write up his experiences, he's probably taken similar doses hundreds of times, and for a minute I know he was actually taking 2C-B pretty much every other day. He still loves the compound, afaik he didn't really experience any bad side effects.

While I've taken B pretty high, I'm generally of the opinion that less is more with 2C-B (and most 2Cs). I think the highest I would probably take these days is 22mg.

Something to consider if anyone is thinking about comboing 2C-B with other substances, is that in many cases they synergize. Meaning you probably don't need to do full doses of both compounds.
 
I've been microdosing* 2C-B lately with 5mg gummies maybe 1 or 2x a week. 5mg is just barely enough for me to feel it and I consider myself extremely sensitive and familiar with 2C-B.

I notice the stimulation more at low doses surprisingly. Not that I find it necessarily stimulating, but I just notice it more at low dose. Maybe at high dose I am usually in a stimulating environment and don't notice as much. I do find that it increases my productivity but more so during a physical activity. Cognition is largely unaffected at this dose, but when I'm tripping I often feel quite mentally lazy., At 5 mg there is minimal but noticeable color brightening, however I don't really get visuals at this dose. Maybe if I'm staring at a light with my eyes closed...

Been meaning to ask my old roommate to write up his experiences, he's probably taken similar doses hundreds of times, and for a minute I know he was actually taking 2C-B pretty much every other day. He still loves the compound, afaik he didn't really experience any bad side effects.

While I've taken B pretty high, I'm generally of the opinion that less is more with 2C-B (and most 2Cs). I think the highest I would probably take these days is 22mg.

Something to consider if anyone is thinking about comboing 2C-B with other substances, is that in many cases they synergize. Meaning you probably don't need to do full doses of both compounds.
We were talking about this last year so I hope you don't mind me digging the thread up.

Edit: my experience microdosing 2cb, from that thread.
Day 1: 7mg 2cb
Well, I'll be, low dose 2cb might actually not be a complete waste of time. Had 7 mg mixed in with a matcha latte around 8am. Felt first alerts around 8:30 and was feeling downright giddy by 10am. No visuals but definitely enhancement. I had to go to Aldi late in the morning and was struck by how bright and vibrant everything looked, items on shelves, signs hanging from the ceiling, everything just seemed to glow. Stayed in a great mood all day. Working memory still shot though.

Day 2: 15ug LSD
9:30am with a matcha latte and the usual supplements; ashwaganda, B12, multi vitamin and a mushroom complex. Sub perceptual microdosing is such a swindle but low threshold doses are
🔥
. 15-25ug is always just me having a great day, everything just looks a bit nicer smells a bit nicer tastes a bit nicer. Reality +1.

Anyway, y'all know what acid feels like. Until tomorrow then.

Day 3:
10mg 2cb+0.04ml RSO
9am with my matcha It's my day off hence the slightly higher dose. I took a further 40mg of 2cb throughout the afternoon, cos uh, I could! And I didn't have any plans for the day so why not.

Day 4:
15ug LSD in the morning 40mg 2cb in the evening. I had the house to myself and felt like tripping after work. I did bumps of ketamine throughout the evening and binge watched season 1 of the boys.

Day 5:
Slept in and feeling a bit fried after staying up until 5am the night before so taking a day off. Felt a little bit irritable during the evening. Probably just tired from being up all night rather than feeling "hungover".

Day 6:
7mg 2cb in my matcha at 8am with the usual supplements. I noticed a bit of a body high around 10am but the presence of the 2cb was a bit less noticeable than on day 1. Might be a little bit of tolerance or might just be because I was feeling a bit tired and out of sorts anyway. I also skipped breakfast because I had a morning meeting I was anxious about. By late morning I wasn't feeling any effects from the 2cb but remained in a good mood all day and had my appetite back by lunchtime. Noticed a very mild headache around 8pm, may just be dehydration.

Day 7:
15ug LSD 7:30am straight on the tongue with 0.3ml of everclear. Not a palatable way to start your day. Was a bit yawny around 9:30 but by 10 I was feeling wide more awake and had those yummy lysergamide body tingles so still no significant tolerance. Nothing else worth remarking on.

Thoughts a week in? My mood has been pretty good all week, except for that one day where I had a bit of a ketamine hangover. I don't think I've been any more productive than I would have been sober, or more creative.

But I don't feel any worse! And I don't feel my heart valves hardening yet which is also awesome. Maybe some minor HPPD, mainly in the form of noticing floaters more than normal, and a bit more burn in than usual after looking away from a bright screen for a example. Nothing's that's interfered with my day, or been noticable at all really except when sitting on the toilet or waiting for the bus, ie when there's nothing else drawing my attention I guess.

I think I'm down for keeping this up for another week. Might just stick with 2cb for 7 days straight this time instead of alternating with acid.

Week 2
Day 1: 7mg 2cb 7:30am mixed with a can of lemonade. If it wasn't already implied, I'm using a solution of 2cb HBr dissolved in vodka to dose volumetrically. Felt first alerts within an hour and by hour 2 the unmistakable hug in a mug feeling that goes hand in hand with 5HT receptors in your belly being tickled. I've been feeling tired all day because I couldn't sleep last night. Nothing else to report.

Day 2: 7mg 2cb 10am mixed in with my coffee. Couldn't sleep again last night. I doubt the micro dosing has anything to do with it though. It's been warm and humid and I've been off Elvanse for about 6 weeks so my brain is extremely itchy. I'm noticing some minor visual alterations still persisting later in the day, like the contrast has been turned up blacks are blacker and colours seem to have more depth. In the evening I nurse approximately 150mg of ketamine over a couple of hours, this too feels slightly more visual than usual.

Day 3:
7mg 2cb+0.05ml RSO 10am mixed in with my coffee. I slept better but was woken rudely and unnecessarily by a family member instead of getting up in my own time and spent most of the afternoon in a foul mood as a result. I think taking the 2cb immediately after being woken up like that actually perpetuated the odius mood. Set and setting folks. I feel like tripping this evening so I'll probably take 25mg at 7pm and go from there. I wish there were other psychedelics besides this and DMT (which I'm never in the mood for) that don't create a tolerance. I feel like taking acid really but if I do then this 2cb experiment goes out the window for at least the next week. Veering off topic now, that's all for today.

Day 4:
10am 7mg 2cb mixed in with a cup of matcha.
I did end up taking 25mg of 2cb last night which I garnished with 400mg of ketamine. Slept well but woke up with a headache which had passed by the time I had finished my matcha. I may have had breakfast a bit too soon after the 2cb because I started feeling pretty nauseous immediately after finishing it, thankfully this passed after 10 minutes or so. Still feeling pretty lazy most of the time. I did get some minor housework done but it's been a largely unproductive day. I feel like the effect of my 7mg dose was slightly less noticable today. Tolerance perhaps? I really need to lay off the ketamine as it does give me a bit of a hangover which I'm sure is offsetting the benefits of the 2cb.

Day 5:
7mg 2cb+0.03ml RSO 11am mixed in with a coffee.
Decided to put an end to this little ketamine binge by finishing my ketamine last night. I did bumps from 10pm-3am then ended the night by dropping myself into a khole. Slept great afterwards and woke up in the best mood I've been in all week. I'm hit by a wave of nausea around 1pm as I'm getting lunch ready but it passes after 5 minutes and I'm able to eat fine.

Day 6:
7mg 2cb+0.04ml RSO 10am mixed in with a matcha latte.
Put off by yesterday's nausea I wait a little bit longer before eating and taking my supplements. Sure enough the come is a lot smoother and I don't experience any nausea. Beyond that it's an unremarkable day. It's far too hot to go out so I stay in and watch a movie. By the time it has finished the 2cb has run its course, though it was barely apparent to begin with. I feel like I'm beginning to hit diminishing returns.

Day 7:
10mg 2cb+0.03ml RSO 9:30am mixed in with a matcha latte.
Slept terribly last night which was to be expected with it being the warmest day of the year so far. Today will be the last day of this little experiment.

Day 8:
20ug LSD mixed in with my coffee.
To serve as a book ender and provide perspective for comparison. I'll add my final thoughts on this little experiment, anon.
 
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We were talking about this last year so I hope you don't mind me digging the thread up.
Honestly, maybe @Esperighanto should merge the threads.

I promise, I will eventually get that report from my friend or die trying.
 
How did I miss this lol... I just posted a thread on the same topic too...

Here's my just finished 9mg report :

2C-B - 9mg

8:50am. Dosed 2ml, at 5mg per ml of 2C-B. Expect the experience to be light, expect purity to be 75%. Which means it will really be 6mg. Dosing to test experience intensity, up to 15mg (3ml) next experiment. At home, safe place, mindset is good. LovelyWife was a bit reserved for the experiment, so will just advise after the fact.

+50, 9:40am. Something there, a relaxation in the background. I can move in and out of every day activities. Working at the moment is nice and pleasurable. Setting is great, hence everything seems a little amplified into “niceness”. Body awareness feels good. I’d say this is around 6/7mg, safely go up to 15mg next time.

+3:50, 12:40pm. Was actually more intense than I expected, probably higher purity. Tail end now, but successful, was quite rich around the 10:30am mark, a few waves. Music good, coding good, nice for repeats, maybe a tad higher at 12mg would be good for this. 15mg absolutely in public, will do that next trial.

+4:40 1:30pm. Still a little left, a bit tired. Not really the best option for focused work, but still productive, more so than with coffee. Definitely will need to do this at 15mg and with LovelyWife when time allows.
What did you dissolve the 2C-B in? That actually sounds like a great way to more accurately dose it.

Also, wouldn't 10mg at 75% purity be like 7.5mg rather than 6?
 
What did you dissolve the 2C-B in? That actually sounds like a great way to more accurately dose it.
2C-B is highly water soluble, though recently I fit some into ethanol to fit 5mg into double-sized blotter paper. It dissolves the best at room temp with water that's ever so slightly acidic (pH 6.3-6.8 type of range).
 
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