2C-B HBr safety issues?

[ToxicFerret]

Hey there I have the opportunity to pick up some 2c-b. I've never had the luck to find it before and I'd like very much to go ahead with this. However the seller knows the whoever synthesized it and without going into prohibited synth details I'll just say that they were lazy because they didn't bother to go all the way to the hydrochloride salt. They left it as the hydrobromide salt. Now, I know that hydrobromide salts are not toxic or dangerous because they are used in other drugs, like dextromethorphan HBr.

However I know that there's likely to be other salts in there as well as mentioned in PIHKAL. So is it safe to consume despite the other salts in there?

 

[sekio]

The "other salts" are e.g. hydrated forms or crystalline allotropes, your 2c-B HBr should still be mostly 2c-B and HBr (and a bit of water) if it's pure. You can always do a fast acid/base purification to get another salt.

The only safety issue is that large doses of bromide salts will cause bromism. But that's usually only a problem when you get to huge doses of drugs, like doing a 3rd-plateau DXM trip every day.

 

[ToxicFerret]

Righto, that's what my intuition and knowledge of chemistry was telling me but I'd prefer to ask and look uneducated than be unsafe

Thanks!

 

[amanitadine]

Not necessarily "lazy" to prepare the HBr over the HCl. Sure, its a few additional steps to the HCl but the HBr has some advantages, like being vastly more water soluble.

 

[Twigs]

HBr has some advantages, like being vastly more water soluble.

Exactly. Even though it is slightly less potent, I still prefer the HBr salt, as it is a lot less painful to snort IME.

 

[ToxicFerret]

Added bonus I suppose. I assume this is due to hydrobromic acid being less nasty to the mucous membranes in the nasal passageways and sinuses?

 

[Twigs]

Added bonus I suppose. I assume this is due to hydrobromic acid being less nasty to the mucous membranes in the nasal passageways and sinuses?

I am pretty sure its because the HBr salt is more water soluble.

EDIT: 20 mg 2C-B HCl equals 23 mg 2C-B HBr in case you're wondering.

 

[azgaza]

I've always had 2c-b hbr; it is appearantly less painful to snort, I've never had 2c-b hcl but I can confirm that the hbr salt is really not that bad in your nose, it still hurts a bit but it's really doable, in fact I prefer taking my 2c-b nasal above taking it orally. Also it tastes not bad at all. From what I know with the doses of 2c-b you need there is not really any problem in having the hbr of 2c-b, yes you need a tiny bit more for the same effects compared to the hcl, but the advantages of it being doable to snort are large too. I've gone through 100'rds of milligrams of this 2c-b hbr, and my friends have done even more of it, friends of mine have dosed well above 50 mg and we've all been completely fine, never even noticed unpleasant side effects really.

Although I've never had 2c-b hcl, I wouldn't trade this stuff; the fact I can snort it, which I always do; there's no come up, you trip instantly and you need such small amounts of the drug for good effect, also if you have no scales you can just take a few mg, wait 15 mins and if it's not strong enough take a few mg extra, which is much easier then guessing your amount for an oral dose, the pain isn't bad at all and just that instant trip factor; the "*snort* auch! ... hey I've got visuals :D "; that's just fun.