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  • Trip Reports Moderator: Cheshire_Kat

2c-b and 4-ho-met - much deeper than expected

zbgureshpxre

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Previous experience: LSD & 1P-LSD (100+ trips in the 150-300mcg range), mushrooms a few times (unknown doses), 4-aco-dmt (about 10 trips, 20-70mg), 4-ho-met (25-50mg) 10+ times, 2c-b 10-40mg 5-10 times, mdma twice (130mg by itself and 150mg with LSD), ayahuasca, cannabis: all day every day for > 10 years. 1 DMT breakthrough, 1 DMT sub-breakthrough dose. Various combinations. Plenty of other stuff that isn't relevant.

Setting: my private office in my house with a good speaker and setup for recreational tripping with led lights that sync to the music.

Current supplements: agmatine
Current tolerance: LSD 5 days ago may present some cross tolerance, very high cannabis tolerance

I wanted to try combining 4-ho-met, 2c-b, and mdma at an upcoming EDM show but couldn't find any trip reports or information about combining 4-ho-met and 2c-b at all. So i figured I should probably test the smaller combo before adding MDMA and doing it all in public.

Given the lack of others experience and that I like a dosage of about 40mg for both 4-ho-met and 2c-b for a nice recreational relaxing trip, I thought I would start with 20mg of each. I was going through a particularly stressful period in life and wanted to both reflect on some recent events as well as just relax and gain new perspective. What I got ended up being much deeper than I planned but also very pleasant.

T-10: carefully measured out my dosage and combined them into a single gelcap. Due to inability to get exact I ended up with 19mg of 4-ho-met and 15mg of 2c-b. I thought it was better to be a bit light than heavy on a first try anyways.

T+0: Consumed with water on an empty stomach. I had a stomach bug earlier in the day and probably shouldn't be doing psychedelics, but decided to just keep my stomach empty and hope for the best. I immediately start smoking a bowl.

T+15: After finishing my first bowl I notice I'm already feeling psychedelic effects. The music I'm listening to becomes more pronounced and color effects from my lights are more mesmorizing. I'm also already getting tracers that last surprisingly long. I'm a bit surprised at how fast this is coming on, usually with an empty stomach it still takes about 30-45 minutes to feel either drug on their own.

T+35: The effects are feeling very synergistic. I haven't felt any nausea and the intensity is already as though I am peaking on 40mg of 4-ho-met but it has it's own "flavor" that is both laid back and stimulating at the same time. These diametric manifestations become part of the trip but I don't want to give the impression that it felt like 2 drugs competing but rather it's own thing. I have enough energy that I cannot stop bouncing but I'm also at peace with the world, LSD has made me feel very similar in the past.

T+60: It is much stronger than what I planned on. Time and space around me begin to wobble and feel like liquid, this reminds of a time I took 2c-b with LSD but this is much more distinct and stronger of a feeling, it envelopes all of my senses. I'm not actually sure but I believe my eyes were closed during this whole time. I don't know if opening them would have dampened the experience.

T+80: The world became 2-dimensional geometry that was very akin to DMT, and as I watched it I had the distinct feeling it was passing down knowledge to me as some sort of source code. This actually felt like a DMT breakthrough but with a much gentler come up. It only lasted a few minutes though, i'm not entirely sure how much.

T+85-90? I open my eyes and am returned to this dimension. I reflect on similar that was to my DMT experience where I met the universe. I once again feel like I was imparted with knowledge I have no idea how to use or interpret.

T+120: I notice the effects are starting to weaken. I am now just reflecting on my life and recent events as I hoped to, it does help me gain some perspective on a problem I'm currently going through with family.

T+240: I still have some weak visual effects but otherwise am back to baseline. I start writing this trip report before the details leave my mind.

I never had any negative body load through the experience. Overall I ended up far deeper than I expected on this dosage. It had a very brief and fast peak, but it was extremely visual. Visual to the level of DMT but without the anxiety of the super-fast blast off comeup feeling. I will definitely do this combination again, in a similar setting and potentially a bit higher dosage hoping to extend it out a bit. Or maybe try a top-off dose 30 minutes in. As to doing it with MDMA at a show, I'll do it but likely lower the dosage a bit.
 
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