Opioids 25mcg Sandoz Fentanyl Patch (Matrix) - Sublingul?

[TheFunkeeJunkee]

So I've got a hold of a couple 25mcg Sandoz patches, the matrix kind.

I've got very little opioid tolerance. I had around 100mg of heroin 3 weeks ago spread over a day.

What's the best way to go about abusing these things? I see a lot of conflicting information regarding smoking vs sublingul in regards to the matrix patches.

Can I cut these into quarters and use them sublingually?

Cheers.

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

So I've got a hold of a couple 25mcg Sandoz patches, the matrix kind.

I've got very little opioid tolerance. I had around 100mg of heroin 3 weeks ago spread over a day.

What's the best way to go about abusing these things? I see a lot of conflicting information regarding smoking vs sublingul in regards to the matrix patches.

Can I cut these into quarters and use them sublingually?

Cheers.

I tried to cut off a little piece of the patch and smoke it but it didn’t really work then I completely ruined it by trying to put it in some water to get the fentanyl out. I had no idea what I was doing because it was a completely random event. My roommate had a friend come over and he just randomly gave me a patch. I guess it was his job to empty the old medication disposal boxes. The patch was expired by a few years and I read that if they are expired that the matrix can be compromised and the fent can all go in your body at once. So I’m curious what the correct way to do it is.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Shoot -- cut the matrix part out and soak it in umm the same stuff you to QWISO hash in --- wait for the solvent to evaporate and you now have 90% of the fentanyl left in crystal form in whatever dish ( I recommend a spoon, but dont shoot it).

At which point well you can prolly guess what I did -- but you have your product to use as desired.

I knew someone first hand that choked on a matrix fent patch doing it sublinqual -- prolly not the brightest thing ever done and tough time explaining why a fent patch was stuck in his throat!!

Not saying it isnt doable in safe doses but dont choke!

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I logged in for the first time in months to post this. Please heed my warning.

A friend of mine died because he nodded out with one of these his his mouth. His girlfriend luckily made it but she almost died to. At the time him and I had such a high tolerance to oxycodone that we'd go through sometimes 300mg+ in the span of a few hours together.

Please do not put one of these in your mouth.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

To drive the point home (despite the fact you probably won't listen):

His elderly mother found him and his girlfriend in bed, blue, cold and not breathing. Medics were called and they worked on both of them for some time. They got her heart going again and took her to the hospital. He left in the corner's van. Both were heavy users at the time. No idea why she survived and he didn't. They nodded off together in bed and weren't conscious enough to take the patches out of their mouths when it got too strong. They were only doing them because they couldn't find any pills that night. Fent. was always a drug of last resort in those days.

I've done lolipops, the old school gel patches and the matrix patches. There is no safe way to do fent. You are risking fatal OD each and every time you attempt to defeat the time release. The lolipops killed a lot of pain patients around here because people would nod off with them in their mouths. A few children died because they found used ones and thought they were candy.

I mixed the gel from a patch with a crushed hydrocodone tablet once in an attempt to dose it safely. Spent a long time mixing just a tiny pin heads worth in with a massive 10/325mg hydrocodone/tylenol combo tablet. The three people I shared it with all got scared within about 20 minutes and made a b-line to my back yard where they started blowing it back out of their noses. Experienced junkies all.

There is no safe way to do fent I'm afraid and it isn't worth your time even if there was. No euphoria. It's a cold opioid that provides nothing but pure sedation.

Think long and hard if you want to mess with it and take this risk. I've seen it kill plenty of people that spent all day snorting oxymorphone tablets mixed with oxycodone tablets while eating handfuls of xanax that they chased with hard liquor.

Of all the friends I had in those days I'm the last one left that isn't dead or in prison. I should be dead and probably in prison myself. The only reason I'm still around is because I learned early on that fent. isn't worth it even to avoid withdrawal. I'd sit at home for a few days in horrible w/d instead of giving in and going back to the fent despite it being widely available for purchase in those days.

 

[paranoid android]

I was on the fentanyl patch years ago. I was prescribed the 25's first then the 50's i think. Naturally i tried to abuse them and the ones with the gell where very abusable but fuck does fent suck. Just like the person above me said its a very cold opiate. Unlike say morphine or dilaudid you get no nice warm euphoria with it. It just sucks for getting high imo. It's good for pain but thats about it

 

[paranoid android]

Fent is very strong unless u have a high tolerace like i had dont touch it. I smoked the gell, ate the gell and even snorted the frozen gel. I could have died from doing all that dumb shit with fent. Fent is only for those with a very high tolerance. And quite honestly it sucks so bad anyway

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Id take the matrix ones over the gel ones personally

 

[Gridlink]

So I've got a hold of a couple 25mcg Sandoz patches, the matrix kind.

I've got very little opioid tolerance. I had around 100mg of heroin 3 weeks ago spread over a day.

What's the best way to go about abusing these things? I see a lot of conflicting information regarding smoking vs sublingul in regards to the matrix patches.

Can I cut these into quarters and use them sublingually?

Cheers.

You said yourself you don't have an opioid tolerance, and 100 mg of heroin over a day is pretty much nothing. You don't really have any business messing with fentanyl patches. Besides as pretty much everyone has said, fent sucks compared to other opioids. You'd be safer sticking to a point of H now and then (and it'd be more enjoyable too).

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Id take the matrix ones over the gel ones personally

Everyone I know that died from fent killed themselves with the matrix patches.

The gel patches (are they even available anymore?) killed less people for two reason. The first was the patch itself cost more on the street. They were massive and everyone I knew would cut them open to get at the gel. I guess they respected it more and were so afraid of it that they only consumed tiny pieces of the gel. Usually they consumed it by mixing it with another substance. I knew several people that would put them on and apply heat to make it release the active material faster (so they said). Then they'd remove the patch once they had gotten close to a nod. Others would smoke the gel. But they weren't as popular as other opioids and like I said before they were always a drug of last resort. The people I knew didn't like fent. and didn't want to do fent.

The matrix patches lull you in and seem safer. But the only way to defeat the time release is to put them in your mouth. Everyone I know that died from the matrix patches made the same mistake. They would place a piece of it in their mouth and nod out. The only reason more people didn't die is because they were with someone else that could take the patch out of their mouth once they started to become unresponsive.

Fent is just a horrible drug all around. It's too dangerous to play with, it provides no euphoria, it doesn't make you warm like other opioids and it's impossible to know just how much is in the piece of the patch or the little bit of gel you've taken out of the patch.

Everyone I know that died from doing fent were very heavy experienced users of strong opioids. People that thought nothing of snorting half of an old OC80 or Opana ER tablet. Poly drug users with a high tolerance to all kinds of CNS depressants. The type of people that would mix high doses of xanax, valium, oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, gabapentin, lyrica and anything else that was available while chasing it all down with 80+ proof hard liquor. The type of people that stayed nodded and blacked out everyday. People with prescriptions for 200+ bar xanax and 150+ roxis a month.

If it can kill people like that from one little mistake an opioid naive users doesn't stand a chance.

I'm pretty liberal with drugs and think none of them should be banned. But if there was one drug that shouldn't be on the market it's fent. and all its analogs for sure. There is absolutely no good reason for it to be on the market. It's far too strong while providing nothing of value for an opioid junkie. The only legitimate use for it is end of life care and ODing a terminal patient on purpose. It only exists on the illicit market these days because it's easier to ship in powder form than other opioids.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Everyone I know that died from fent killed themselves with the matrix patches.

I actually never knew anyone that died off pharma fent. Patches or gel -- I can see how the matrix ones would be riskier if you cant a/b it.

The gel patches (are they even available anymore?) killed less people for two reason. The first was the patch itself cost more on the street. They were massive and everyone I knew would cut them open to get at the gel. I guess they respected it more and were so afraid of it that they only consumed tiny pieces of the gel. Usually they consumed it by mixing it with another substance. I knew several people that would put them on and apply heat to make it release the active material faster (so they said). Then they'd remove the patch once they had gotten close to a nod. Others would smoke the gel. But they weren't as popular as other opioids and like I said before they were always a drug of last resort. The people I knew didn't like fent. and didn't want to do fent.

We use to smoke the gel off foily's like dumb dumb's -- couple hits you were good. go through a patch pretty fast that way though. Done the heating pad thing to mixed results

*Wish they had these nectar collectar things back than I miss MAD AMOUNTS trying to chase the dragon* -- that gel is about the same consistency as live resin too. Damn lol

The matrix patches lull you in and seem safer. But the only way to defeat the time release is to put them in your mouth. Everyone I know that died from the matrix patches made the same mistake. They would place a piece of it in their mouth and nod out. The only reason more people didn't die is because they were with someone else that could take the patch out of their mouth once they started to become unresponsive.

Yea dont put the matrix in your mouth that is crazy. I do not feel they are safer -- it is just a matter of I can pull the fent out of one with 90% + yield, so more than 5mg of a 5 mg patch!

Fent is just a horrible drug all around. It's too dangerous to play with, it provides no euphoria, it doesn't make you warm like other opioids and it's impossible to know just how much is in the piece of the patch or the little bit of gel you've taken out of the patch.

Everyone I know that died from doing fent were very heavy experienced users of strong opioids. People that thought nothing of snorting half of an old OC80 or Opana ER tablet. Poly drug users with a high tolerance to all kinds of CNS depressants. The type of people that would mix high doses of xanax, valium, oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, gabapentin, lyrica and anything else that was available while chasing it all down with 80+ proof hard liquor. The type of people that stayed nodded and blacked out everyday. People with prescriptions for 200+ bar xanax and 150+ roxis a month.

If it can kill people like that from one little mistake an opioid naive users doesn't stand a chance.

I'm pretty liberal with drugs and think none of them should be banned. But if there was one drug that shouldn't be on the market it's fent. and all its analogs for sure. There is absolutely no good reason for it to be on the market. It's far too strong while providing nothing of value for an opioid junkie. The only legitimate use for it is end of life care and ODing a terminal patient on purpose. It only exists on the illicit market these days because it's easier to ship in powder form than other opioids.

Absolutely was a last resort -- than became the only thing that could cut through sub -- but street fent was russian roulette.

Yea fentanyl is fentanyl there is no way of avoiding risk of OD other than solid math and knowledge of your own body. Still no guarantees.

 

[TheFunkeeJunkee]

Just an update folks.

I cut the patch into 4 equal segments and held one under my tongue for half an hour each, repeating till all 4 were gone.

The effect was mild, underwhelming and defined mostly by nausea and vomitting. I would not repeat this.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Damn yea fent isnt a great high --- thanks for listening to us fucker! glad ya lived -- sounds like you took too much if vomitting was involved.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

There is no safe way to do fent I'm afraid and it isn't worth your time even if there was. No euphoria. It's a cold opioid that provides nothing but pure sedation

Most true comment on Fent I've ever seen online.
Just giving Hard Facts & Truth in a simple way & direct to the point.

Amazing post on here & well worth way more respect for being said than it's being given.

Respect to The OP from me.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Same -- wish ya wouldnta threw it in your throat despite everyone tellin ya not too -- but ultimately that was your choice and risk

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Same -- wish ya wouldnta threw it in your throat despite everyone tellin ya not too -- but ultimately that was your choice and risk

In my view if I ever see a post asking if the person should try Heroin / Fent or any other drug the odds are set as they typed the post & simply by asking "advice" online about the effect(s) of using something new isn't a good sign to begin with, the person is showing way more leaning TO USING the drug than flushing it down the toilet.

I am not shocked the OP did what they did, the only thing I always say to people is Fent ISN'T Heroin, lucky for me I live in The UK & we have had a very good supply of Afghan #4 smoking Heroin for decades, I have no issue getting good Pakistan & Afghan Heroin off the street so easy, Anyone who has only used Fent has NO EXPERIENCE of good Heroin at all.

I've had NHS Fent via I.V. I had 250mcg & it feels nothing like a shot of Afghan Heroin into the vein.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I am not shocked at all it seemed to be the intent the entire time. Coulda just wore it and prolly had a good few days -- maybe need to take it off now and than even.

Quite possibly would have had the same result.

Aye I use to do a 5 mg patch -- closer to 6 if I recall... split into 3 shots and IV'd it (Obviously I had a tolerance going!) --- it is still cold and not euphoric compared to heroin, even morphine

 

[sixteenthnight]

So I've got a hold of a couple 25mcg Sandoz patches, the matrix kind.

I've got very little opioid tolerance. I had around 100mg of heroin 3 weeks ago spread over a day.

What's the best way to go about abusing these things? I see a lot of conflicting information regarding smoking vs sublingul in regards to the matrix patches.

Can I cut these into quarters and use them sublingually?

Cheers.

it would probably absorb under the tongue, but veeeeeeeeeeeery slowly... or not, i wouldnt risk it...