In regard to the opening post: treat it with respect, a 1/4 tab may not be enough for you to feel anything but 1/2 tab may be close to your sweet spot. tabs are NOT a perfect science and we all know the product can lay and dry unevenly. I do not trust tabs. Pupnik has described some variability in his 25I tabs. Then again set and setting can play a role in the trip as well. Personal health may have a role to play as well... most people feel elevating magnesium and potassium levels naturally or with supplements is advisable. Magnesium is very helpful and most Americans do not get enough of it in an average diet. Just do a google search on it and your will see. I also take Icarin as a supplement daily as I do feel it has helped me motivate for my work outs. It is natural vasco-diolator I am very healthy, I consume a ton of natural potassium and magnesium because of my odd gluten free lifestyle..... as does my wife. No one can give you advice on how much to take as it is against the rules of the BL we simply educate on the reality, it is of course your decision and your risk.
Personally I enjoy this substance, but I am very restrained. The most I could see myself doing is maybe 6 to 7 trips max in a years time, in all honesty probably less. My sweet spot is right around 1 mg sublingually and probably 700 to 800 mg insufulated but I have not proven that out just yet. Pupnik, I think your advise on tolerance and wait time between trips while true for you is not true for everyone. Most people would develop more of a tolerance then what you have described in other posts. Most people say a week maybe enough but really 2 weeks between trips is more advisable for people who are trying to find their sweet spot, while some others like myself would advise a month in between trips, once you find your sweet spot.
I am very healthy, but I am not a teenager either, and while I have never had a hang over, I can kind of feel it in my work outs over the next few days after an experience. I feel great mentally the next day, I don't feel tired, and normally I have a pretty good day. I don't work out that day, but then the 2nd day after the trip when I go back to training, I can feel that my body has been put through something.....
Now I am aware of my body, I am in damn good shape, so maybe I am more aware then others, but it does take a small physical toll.... less then MDMA by my estimates, but it is still there.... perhaps lingering vascoconstriction. My best description is it can be a bit harder to bust out my normal 25 reps, I back it down to 20 reps when I am building muscle.
It is a very interesting substance, someone on the Blue detailed how it could be used as a energizing cure for Migrain headaches at a low level dose think 100 mics.... because it is vascoconstrictive.
There are many of us that have had positive experiences, I find it not only visual but really pretty euphoric. My wife has a lower dose sweet spot then me... probably at around 700 mics but she is only 105 lbs. I am 5' 11' and a solid 185lbs. There are others that describe a 2 dose trip lasting close to 20 hours and having some excruciating moments.
My experiences are my own and I do not have tabs, simply the powder purchased long before it was illegal. I agree with Fagott on the sketchiness for some, when I first tired the substance, it was not so popular and there was only 1 negative near fatal low dose report and erowid. For me the positives and legal status made it worth the risk, now I may have never tried it with all the bad reports.
I do think for some people it clearly pulls a trigger, some people have a bad reaction to MDMA, where they lose the ability to urinate and basically poision themselves. I know on higher doses of MDMA it took some real concentration for me to urinate despite being well hydrated. It was like I knew I had to go..... but wound up standing there for quite a while. In many ways I liken 25I more to good strong pure MDMA from back in the day. Clearly though far less room for error and a more formidable dose response curve.
Still though while at one point I had a BLAST on a 10 strip of LSD I would have never ever ever considered taking 10 E pills. I had the money and access to the product back in the day too. 3 bombs at once was an increadible trip when it came to my gelcaps. Never once felt the need to push it any further cause the 2 to 5 days after were a mess.
