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25B-NBOMe warning; bad-trip/non-fatal overdose 1000ug.

Noted, and again i appreciate the honsety. Lemme kinda clariffy the home situation. The parents are actually ok with psychadelics on a small scale, but they sort of work on the dont ask dont tell basis, so an onviously drug-related volumetric measurement set up wouldnt be ok with them. An interesting point, and a suprising response to be comepletely honest. Its too bad the world views the drug world so badly, some of the smartest nicest people ive met or have had interactions like this forum with are drug users (but not abusers) experts, and enthusiasts. Im young now and cant yet offer as much information back to the community as id like to for all its done for me, but in time, once ive gone to college and lived enough years to speak with legitimate wisdom, I hope i can give back the same way things like bluelight have given to me.
 
Is it really that surprising that the rest of the world has a bad perception of drug use if all they encounter are experiences such as your own? Your adventure is why it is so difficult to seriously advocate drug use for one an all. I'll ignore that you are too young for psychedelics (you'l probably disagree but you will understand why when you are older) and instead say that abusing these drugs in a totally unsuitable setting is irresponsible.
 
Well this isnt ALL the world enounters or I wouldnt have bothered to write about or even try the drug for that matter. The world enounters bullshit, and misguidance, not stories like this 24/7. Maybe im too young for psychadelicS and maybe im not, the fact of the matter is i have this piece of information in the form of a story of what can happen when you arent careful, and it is absolutely essential that i share this with the world so that it can maybe keep someone from making the same mistake. All else aside that cant be argued.
 
thizzkid said:
For the 3rd time, we had all been well acquainted with 25i and 25c nbome at doses up to 1.2mg and 1.5mg respectively, and no one had any kind of issue and even did this in a very public area as well.
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Hey don't take this as being sarcastic, but see the logic at what I'm saying and just think about it: What I quoted doesn't tell you ANYTHING about how 25B-NBOME will affect you. My friend trips normal off of 25I, just like most people. Average dose and all that jazz. 25C, my friend cant feel. He did over 30 mg in about 2 hours with no effects. He got visuals from it when he smoked it for like, a few seconds. Very strong visuals though. Otherwise he couldn't feel it.

I feel there's something weird going on with the way the nbomes are absorbed, and I think the rapid absorption is what is killing people, along with uneven blotters and inexperience.
 
Wooaahh if what I did was irresponsible, 30mg of any NBOMe whether you can feel it or not is just ludacris. I mean even if you don’t get high from it the drugs still in his body…people are like 90% (don’t quote me on that, im just saying that this is dangerous) likely to die from a dose greater than 10mg. Even if he cant feel it, I highly reccommend you dont do that again...

Just read this if you dont believe me; this guy should be dead.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1arxyw/trip_report_28mg_of_25inbome_administered_nasally/

Oh and yea i know, my point was that exactly; you shouldnt extrapolate an assumption of the potency of 25B-NBOMe just because the other 25x's in the family had no problems. I made this assumption that day, and it resulted in horrible results, which are the story in the OP. I was just stating my train of thought and how i foolishly came to the conclusion that there shouldn't be any problems.

Still though, 30mg?!? Sweet jesus
 
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thizzkid said:
Wooaahh if what I did was irresponsible, 30mg of any NBOMe whether you can feel it or not is just ludacris. I mean even if you don’t get high from it the drugs still in his body…people are like 90% (don’t quote me on that, im just saying that this is dangerous) likely to die from a dose greater than 10mg. Even if he cant feel it, I highly reccommend you dont do that again...

Just read this if you dont believe me; this guy should be dead.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1arxyw/trip_report_28mg_of_25inbome_administered_nasally/

Oh and yea i know, my point was that exactly; you shouldnt extrapolate an assumption of the potency of 25B-NBOMe just because the other 25x's in the family had no problems. I made this assumption that day, and it resulted in horrible results, which are the story in the OP. I was just stating my train of thought and how i foolishly came to the conclusion that there shouldn't be any problems.

Still though, 30mg?!? Sweet jesus
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Well the drug was just not hitting his receptors, there were no effects. By the end of the ordeal, his joints were stiff and his muscles felt tense. I would have never did that, but then again it affects me normally. I dont know why I didnt stop him, as he didnt exactly know the danger, but I didnt know it then as well as I do know. The case can just repeat as a bad experiment that shows some strange result. Of course it will never be repeated, btw! Thats obvious, this happened over a year ago when I hadnt heard much about nbome's danger.
 
I only learned one lesson from this whole thread - Dont experiment with NBOMe's under any circumstance, it just not worth it. Just take 2c-b, lsd, (4-ho)-N,N-dmt, and others of their similar class. Im avid experimenter of halogenated 2c-x, 2c-t-2/7, 2c-e, 4-ho-dmt and its homologues, lsd, as well as i enjoy dox's. But from all the negative experience reports on the 25x-nbome series they just sound unpredictable at best and physically toxic at their worst. Other than that yeah what others said, dont trip at home with your parents around (lol) unless you have a big house and they dont care, or you are very confident in your ability to not lose your shit. However, i started tripping around 16 y/o (i dont see anything wrong with that, I don't really feel it stunted my development if anything it sped up my emotional maturity) and tripping at disneyland would have all been in good fun if it was with some confirmed lsd or shrooms or dox (as long as all those involved are experienced trippers that would feel comfortable doing it in a public place)
 
g0to said:
I only learned one lesson from this whole thread - Dont experiment with NBOMe's under any circumstance, it just not worth it. Just take 2c-b, lsd, (4-ho)-N,N-dmt, and others of their similar class. Im avid experimenter of halogenated 2c-x, 2c-t-2/7, 2c-e, 4-ho-dmt and its homologues, lsd, as well as i enjoy dox's. But from all the negative experience reports on the 25x-nbome series they just sound unpredictable at best and physically toxic at their worst. Other than that yeah what others said, dont trip at home with your parents around (lol) unless you have a big house and they dont care, or you are very confident in your ability to not lose your shit. However, i started tripping around 16 y/o (i dont see anything wrong with that, I don't really feel it stunted my development if anything it sped up my emotional maturity) and tripping at disneyland would have all been in good fun if it was with some confirmed lsd or shrooms or dox (as long as all those involved are experienced trippers that would feel comfortable doing it in a public place)
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Some people have a 'perfect trip' with no side effects. It happened to me. Some people cant feel anything but negative side effects with no trip at a low dose, and dont feel comfortable taking it higher. Some people die. Something is wrong with this series. However I feel like some of the weaker ones such as 25g-nbome might be used safely, and of course there is some goodness to be had in the popular ones... but is the risk worth it?
 
Well someone who posted earlier said it best;
The NBOMEs are experimental drugs so messing with them is puttibg yourself through an experiment in which anything could happen. And while the drugs may be nearly identical, each needs to be treated as its own experiment and resilts from one NBOMe cant be used to judge what the results of another NBOMe SHOULD be. unfortuneately it took this story and my friend having toxic results before my eyes or me to realize that.


Theyre a risky bunch and i knew that going into this, but im never gunna look at them them the same again. They can be great, and Ive had mostly awesome experiences with them, but i know now first hand the russian-roulette-ness they carry with them.
 
I just read your friend's report, and it occurs to me that things may have gone better if you had just let your other friend apologize again to the guy he bumped like he wanted to, even if he was a bit sweaty and excitable at the time. It could have defused the tension that was building up, and while the guy may have been a bit weirded out for being apologized to again, I doubt he would've thought too much of it and probably you guys wouldn't have gotten into any real trouble. It can be hard to gauge what a stranger's reactions will be when you're tripping in public, but generally people won't suspect you of being on drugs unless you start acting really outrageously. But I understand that it was an unpredictable situation for you at the time. Thanks to both of you for reporting your experiences, and good job on getting everyone home safely without having to get any authorities involved.
 
OP, I think that while many of the people who posted in this thread were harsh in their wording, it is true that they were *just* answering the question *you* asked... and that was "what could have caused this?" They answered. While I agree that it can be irritating when people are cocky and I can see why it bothered you, they were just trying to answer the question you asked at the end of the day. :] I am always glad when I see a situation like this resolved, and I enjoyed reading your experience. It's clear that your story is appreciated and informative.
 
Thizzkid, I'd like to move this to the TR section, but can you provide a title for this report and let us know the level of experience you previously had with this particular substance?
 
Ok will do. Honestly the current title seems fitting to the experience so if maintaining that is doable that would be cool and most accurate.

as far as my experience before this, I had never tried 25b-NBOMe, only 25i and 25c on several occasions and in conjunction with each other a few times. Additionally i had done several 2c-x's and all the common classic psychedelics excluding mescaline.
 
That was a good read. Experiences like this are the reason I only dose myself nowadays. Maybe one or two people that are close to me, everyone else can find it on their own.

Nothing more tense than when you're tripping and you have to come back to reality to babysit, especially when the other person could get hurt.
 
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