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25B-NBOMe & Dextrose

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icekila

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I got some 25B-NBOMe HCL which has been cut with dextrose, and just wanted know does anyone know how to clean out the dextrose?
 
Given the nature of how new 25B-NBOMe is, its solubility properties are likely relatively unknown.

The glucose is easy; you need to find something where that [glucose] dissolves into, but the 25B remains solid. Or you could do the opposite, extract the solid and evap the remaining liquid.

Good luck finding out what makes a mixture with the 25B instead of changing its properties, also cross your fingers you don't need something like chloroform for it. :laughs: That would be tough to explain.. "No! I'm not trying to date rape anyone damnit, I'm trying to extra... balls."

Best of luck! Leaving this open for answers.

Have you asked in the appropriate thread in PD?

Edit: If you leave it as a mixture, PLEASE dissolve it into an appropriate volume of liquid that will dissolve both to allow for even distribution, and in turn proper dosing levels (and not OD'ing!).
 
I read somewhere before that ethanol can be used for this purpose, 25B is insoluble and dex is but i am not 100% sure on this
 
Try it: if it's a mistake evap all of it and mass the remainder - it should be the same as your starting value.

If you can get your hands on enough 25B to experiment with, you could be the one the make a guessing game into a simple, precise process. :)
 
Why do you need to separate it then? That's such a small amount it's going to be impossible to dose after being separated, and even as-is that's a very small amount of material.
 
I was gonna seperate it then add HPBCD to the pure 25B and do liquid measurement to lay it on. I am also having a problem finding pure etoh, BTW i am in the UK
 
I wonder if you could lay it w/ the glucose still in there? My thought is that the glucose wouldn't absorb and could be dusted off, so to say. Then again, I've never laid blotter paper as of yet.
 
It will be more difficult with the dextrose, the liquid measurement wont be as accurate
 
Some good replies here :) I'm going to move this over to Psychedelic Drugs now as they have a 25B-NBOMe thread and are the experts on psychs so someone may have some experience in this!

BDD > PD
 
effie said:
Some good replies here :) I'm going to move this over to Psychedelic Drugs now as they have a 25B-NBOMe thread and are the experts on psychs so someone may have some experience in this!

BDD > PD
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Thanks dude :)
 
icekila said:
It will be more difficult with the dextrose, the liquid measurement wont be as accurate
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I was wondering if you could explain your rationale for this statement?

i'm no expert but, as far as i understand, the liquid measurement should be fine even with dextrose included, assuming:
1) you know exactly how much 25b-nbome is in your powder-mixture
2) you get all of the powder fully into solution.

see what others say but I'm thinking you might be better off using liquid measurement. I'm not convinced you'll ever fully separate the two substances and then you'll be guessing about how much of your powder is active ingredient.

also, for reference, 25i and 25d will dissolve in EtOH. I assume 25b will also be soluble in EtOH. (esp since you say you have the HCl salt)

if you're worried because you want to lay blotter: yes it will be harder to get the solution as concentrated as you would like.
personally i found it difficult to get more concentrated than 4 mg/mL with 25i and 25d. i wasn't trying super hard tho.
 
I heard someone say that on a different forum(that forum is now gone). I dont know how much exactly but it should be around 21-22mg of 25B. I guess i will never seperate it, so i have now decided to lay the blotter with the dextrose, so i have ran into several problems, how much 25B ug or mg should be on a blotter for a stronger than average testing session?, i know 25B is not as potent as 25I, secondly how much ML of water(water will be my solvent) should be used on about 44-45mg of the 50/50 25B and dex mix?

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I also have 5mg of 25I-NBOMe that i want to complex and lay, for this i was thinking of using water or 99% IPA(Dont know which one to use), 5mg of 25I then 45mg of HPBCD in 5ml of water or IPA, shake vigarously to complex, and this should equal to 500ug per 0.5ml? or i am missing something?
 
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regarding your dosage question: i'm sure you remember what your vendor said on this subject.

here on bluelight the answer is this:
start at 100 ug and work up from there. the dosage of 25x-NBOMe is extremely variable across users.

regarding the 25i: if you wish to know more about HPBCD there is some explanation of it recently in the current 25i B&D thread and the original post about its use is in the archived 25i B&D thread.

regarding your solution concentration: 1 mg/mL sounds fine. you will need to make about 10 passes with a mL dropper to put 500 ug on the blotter. i think this is fine tho and should help to distribute the uncertainty in dose per drop due to variable drop size.
 
twelvesevndi said:
regarding your dosage question: i'm sure you remember what your vendor said on this subject.

here on bluelight the answer is this:
start at 100 ug and work up from there. the dosage of 25x-NBOMe is extremely variable across users.

regarding the 25i: if you wish to know more about HPBCD there is some explanation of it recently in the current 25i B&D thread and the original post about its use is in the archived 25i B&D thread.

regarding your solution concentration: 1 mg/mL sounds fine. you will need to make about 10 passes with a mL dropper to put 500 ug on the blotter. i think this is fine tho and should help to distribute the uncertainty in dose per drop due to variable drop size.
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Thanks mate. I will not be using a droper but instead a syringe to be more accurate

EDIT:

Would 1ml of water be enough to dissolve 3mg of 25B and Dex?
 
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