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(Victoria) 25B-NBOH is being sold in powder form as ‘LSD’ in Melbourne

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Hi everyone

On Friday evening the health department in Victoria put out the following warning. Thought you all would like to know about it. It's unusual for 'LSD' to be sold in powder form... turns out it wasn't LSD at all.

Elrich's reagent can tell you whether or not LSD is present... but I'm not sure if there's a reagent that can identify whether NBOH series is present/absent.

Interested in whether anyone's had any issues similar to those below taking LSD lately in Victoria, or Australia.

25B-NBOH is a potent synthetic drug with psychedelic + stimulant properties​

Not much is known about 25B-NBOH, but it’s closely related to the ‘novel phenethylamine’ 25B-NBOMe, and seems to have a high risk of very serious harm to health when consumed. This includes seizures, extreme agitation, acute kidney injury, hyperthermia (dangerously high body temperature) and death.

Reports from people who have used 25B-NBOH say it’s highly potent – this means it has a strong effect at very small doses. The effects for a given dose are reported to be unpredictable, but typically include heightened and distorted visuals, stimulant properties, and altered thought formation. Other effects may include nausea, headaches, difficulty with or frequent urination, muscle tension, cramps or involuntary movements, and a metallic/bitter taste and mouth numbing when taken orally or under the tongue.

There have been recent hospitalisations in Victoria after unintentional 25B-NBOH use (no other drugs were involved). ‘NBOH’ drugs are closely related to ‘NBOMe’ drugs, which have been associated with a substantial number of hospitalisations and deaths in Victoria and worldwide.

Be very cautious about any powder sold as ‘LSD’, ‘acid’, or a ‘psychedelic’ – it may be 25B-NBOH​

It’s unusual, but not unheard of, for LSD (‘acid’) to be sold in a powdered form. While all drug use comes with risks, 25B-NBOH is much more toxic than LSD and it’s very hard to dose without adverse effects, especially if consumed unknowingly. NBOH/NBOMe drugs may also circulate as blotter paper ('tabs') or liquid.

Harm is more likely if 25B-NBOH is snorted, injected, or used sublingually (under the tongue). Consuming 25B-NBOH with other substances – especially stimulants like MDMA (‘ecstasy’) – will further increase the risk of unwanted and potentially fatal effects.

Reducing the risk of harm​

If you experience adverse drug effects, or are present when someone has an unexpected reaction, seek help immediately by calling Triple Zero (000).

All alcohol and other drug use comes with risks, so:

  • Be aware that other false or contaminated drug products may circulate in Victoria, even if no specific warning has been issued about them.
  • Start low and go slow with how much you consume. If you have any unexpected or delayed reaction to a drug, do not take more.
  • Make sure you’re in a safe environment with people you trust.
  • Remember, even 'pure' drugs can produce serious side effects and death, and can interact dangerously with medications/pharmaceutical drugs – get the facts at the Alcohol and Drug Foundation's Drug Facts website.
Contact Harm Reduction Victoria’s DanceWize team for anonymous support and education from peers. Talk to DanceWize volunteers online at their Facebook page or Instagram, by email at [email protected] or at music festivals across Victoria,

If you or someone you know needs help with alcohol or drug use, call DirectLine on 1800 888 236 or visit the Directline website for information and support to access treatment.
 
Interesting since as you mentioned LSD usually comes pre-blotted. Could a mod please sticky this? The drug does sound fun but not everyone knows of the risks that come with it, especially if sold as something else.
 
Elrich's reagent can tell you whether or not LSD is present... but I'm not sure if there's a reagent that can identify whether NBOH series is present/absent

There is no evidence of tabs ever being adulterated with LSD + another psychoactive substance like an NBOH. It’s either one or the other. So if you get a positive pink/purple on Ehrlich you are good. Check drugsdata.org for evidence of this. NBOMe compounds and other phenethylamines (like 2C-B) will not give a colour change with the Ehrlich reagent or with Hoffman.

If you get no colour change to pink/purple with Ehrlich or you want to doubt check, test your sample with Hoffman. Over 10-15 minutes it will turn blue. If no joy and you want positive test for 25B-NBOH then Mecke and Marquis will go vivid Yellow/Green (LSD has no reaction). 25l-NBOMe will make blotter paper go brown/black with Marquis, Mecke, or Mandelin (LSD has no reaction)
 
Thanks @Perforated.

Perhaps the lack of combinations of these potent psychedelics is just because there's never the need to do so. I would hope that remains the case.

Unfortunately as you would have seen, we do have examples where NBOMe have been added to capsules of powder sold as MDMA, even though we still don't really understand why this has happened (no obviously motive from my perspective).
 
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