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25-X and 2C-X cross tolerance

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DatNiggaJ

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I did 2 mgs of 25i 3 days ago would I get good effects from a 20 mg dose of 2CE today? Or how long should I wait for the cross tolerance to go down? Thank you
 
Also take into account im young (19) have rested well and eat healthy, is 3 days enough to recover and have another great experience but with a different substance? Before the 25I trip I havn't tripped for a solid month or 2 also
 
There will be significant cross-tolerance from these two classes. I know personally from experience. I suggest waiting at least 7 more days for 2C-E (a total of 10 days) and at least another 12 days for an NBOME. If you decide to rush this, it won't be good. Maybe once wouldn't be noticeable, but using powerful psychedelics often can be addictive. Especially feelgood ones like 2C-E and 25I. Give yourself some time, I once dosed like that at a period of my life and I truly regret it. A waste of drugs ($) A waste of mind. A waste of time.

If anything else do it for the sake of having a trip the way it's supposed to... phenethylamine tolerance is kind of scary and it 'feels' permanent. No idea if it is but hey I'm still dealing massive visuals (HPPD) over a year since I've done any NBOME.

Be careful and try to learn from others... that way you don't have to have experience to be good at life, you just learn from other's bad decisions.
 
DatNiggaJ said:
Also take into account im young (19) have rested well and eat healthy, is 3 days enough to recover and have another great experience but with a different substance? Before the 25I trip I havn't tripped for a solid month or 2 also
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I was the same age and I truly regretted it. Give yourself some time. If you're desperate to get high find some adderal or an opiate or something.
 
thank you I've done a lot of 2cs without real negative effects except some floaters in my vision here in there but I wanted to dose 2ce today because its going to be a perfect setting for me :(. Would I notice more negative side effects and less good ones if I did dose today? I mean I would be down to dose a little higher because I can handle the comedowns this week I just want to use it today lol
 
Floaters aren't from psychedelics. They occur physically in the gel that fills your eyeball, not in your brain.

Also consider that tripping twice in 3 days might be a cause to think about the frequency of your psychedelic use, tolerance or not.
 
Damn I just never tried 2ce so i wanted to maybe get some good insights from it before I go back to not tripping I usually just use psychadelics for a couple weeks then stop for a few months but that is irresponsible so I guess ill try to wait a week they just are fun and i hang out with too many trippy people :C lol
 
I did the 25i at a rave/after party but I wanted to get some insight without a crazy setting just a mild walk in the woods with a couple friends
 
Because of their selectiveness high affinity the NBOMe's cause a rapid and strong tolerance (and cross-tolerance) that lasts for about 2 weeks.
So it would be a complete waste to consume it again after 3 days. Let alone the normal pause one should take after a psychedelic experience.

And if you never tried 2c-e it would be best to wait 2-4 weeks until it gets worthwile again. Especially at such a young age.
 
Anon0631 said:
Floaters aren't from psychedelics. They occur physically in the gel that fills your eyeball, not in your brain.

Also consider that tripping twice in 3 days might be a cause to think about the frequency of your psychedelic use, tolerance or not.
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He means the visual artifacts from phenethylamine use, and they are definitely real.


DatNiggaJ said:
thank you I've done a lot of 2cs without real negative effects except some floaters in my vision here in there but I wanted to dose 2ce today because its going to be a perfect setting for me . Would I notice more negative side effects and less good ones if I did dose today? I mean I would be down to dose a little higher because I can handle the comedowns this week I just want to use it today lol
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To the bold underlined part, that is exactly it. Not only that you would not get the true positive effects from this substance. You may get some positive effects for sure, but they won't be truly psychedelic. The thing is it will just be a completely different experience if you rush it, and pushing the dose won't help. Also 2C-E has a comedown that feels more like a high, like coming off of speed and just feeling relaxed.

Now if you use it today, it won't be the end of the world, but it also wouldn't be experiencing 2C-E properly. Do your 2C-E some justice and use it properly... I went through grams and I don't think I'll ever have a "2C-E Trip" the way other people talk about it again. Binging every once in awhile isn't TOO bad... but it is bad. I was guilty of it for a long time as well and it didn't do me any good. Now I haven't tripped in weeks and that time was a dud and I didn' trip for months before that. So I'm just gonna wait until I get some new chems. I'm saving my 2C's until my brain is different.

Maybe get some tryptamines OP? such as 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MiPT? They won't have the long lasting effects of phenethylamines or the abuse potential (amphetamine is a phenethylamine, and a dose of 2C-E that makes me get going feels just like speed on the body... aka addictive. 25I is even better than speed)
 
Look, while I'm probably gonna be alone on this one, I say emphatically to do the 2C-E. First, many people do not need breaks for their psychological wellbeing that are more than a day long. I have gone a month several times tripping every other day. As long as I didn't go for two days in a row tolerance was there but the subjective effects once dosage was increased were no different.

Second, if he does have a boring (and in my experience trips when you have not allocated enough time since your last psychedelic experience are merely washed-out, flat, boring parodies of the psychedelic state, instead of being negative somehow) time, it will be a lesson to not do it again.

Not everybody works the same way. Yes, tolerance is common to all humans, but if you're willing to increase the dose accordingly then it may or may not be the case that tripping every other day can be just fine, or maybe you're the type to need week to month long breaks between trips. Generalizing that all people will react X to frequent tripping is silly.
 
Deinonychus said:
Look, while I'm probably gonna be alone on this one, I say emphatically to do the 2C-E. First, many people do not need breaks for their psychological wellbeing that are more than a day long. I have gone a month several times tripping every other day. As long as I didn't go for two days in a row tolerance was there but the subjective effects once dosage was increased were no different.

Second, if he does have a boring (and in my experience trips when you have not allocated enough time since your last psychedelic experience are merely washed-out, flat, boring parodies of the psychedelic state, instead of being negative somehow) time, it will be a lesson to not do it again.

Not everybody works the same way. Yes, tolerance is common to all humans, but if you're willing to increase the dose accordingly then it may or may not be the case that tripping every other day can be just fine, or maybe you're the type to need week to month long breaks between trips. Generalizing that all people will react X to frequent tripping is silly.
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"Learning" isn't so fun when you have constantly visual artifacts and lessened trips. Of course doing it once wont really matter, it's the continued habit of this. Doing it once will make him want to do it again... as phenethylamines are stimulants. They're fun. Not to be encouraged to be abused like a stimulant because doing so will have negative effects.

I don't say encourage risky behavior, that seems irresponsible somehow.
 
Did the 2ce earlier @18 mgs and it was beautiful. Felt like there was a bottle stuck in my stomach but very euphoric and visuals were very earthy and deep :). Thanks for the advice I dont plan on abusing the 2ce often. WOnt be doing again for another 2 weeks
 
I'm a big fan of phenethylamines but I would say that every 2 weeks is too much. Once a month is more appropriate IMO.

If you take psychedelics too often they lose their magic and you lose your perspective. Neither of those is a good thing.
 
It can be easy to get into the habit of doing 2C-E often... really you should only do it every once in awhile when you've forgotten about it short-term (don't always keep highs in your recent memory that will make you want them more) and you feel it's the right time. This usually amounts to 5-10 weeks for me.
 
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