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Opioids 20mg oxycodone issues

Sometimes when Im reading the first post of the thread, I'll read one, or sometimes two responses and have something to say about it and I wanna write it down before I forget, so I just jump to the bottom of the page and post it, then sometimes I'll go read the posts in between that I skipped.
 
Ok - they're not easing them out. They still manufacture. I've been gtg them for like a year almost. And they are more newish then anything. I used to take 30's and there was some shit gng down w/Dr because of some stolen pads & scripts being written & someone o d ing off of one of the scripts written off of her pad. N e way. Went through this big ordeal to get the doc to keep me on reg oxy as opposed to percs because of unnecessary acet. I take a lot of meds being been given gift of a terminal illness & a slew of other various pain areas & then finally fibromyalgia. So was given 20's which I'm actually going to have either 30's re prescribed or 20's upped since slipping on ice & activating or doing more damage to back. Either way driving the pain up another 3 on the 10 scale. Meaning the meds keeping on a 7 - 8 all the time. Then there was this "holy Trinity bullshit with kids taking xanax oxy & soma" all of which I was prescribed to me until that coming to her attn. I lost my soma & my xanax got taken I.mediately from 3 - 1mg pills per day to 2 - 1/2 mg pills per day. Leaving me dealing with a little more pain the is like to be & my fkg panic/anxiety skyrocketing. But as for the 20's - they are in fact oxycodone and are not made in a formulatory way to exclude inhalation. And they are not going off market. If anything will be taking place of a lot of 30mg doses now received due to the dea and the big fkg to do over ppl being prescribed 30's. The amount of ppl. There are a lot of ppl that really don't need them gtg scripts from docs that only take cash etc. To keep from being tracked etc. Well I know this isn't much on the thing of them not gtg anything from them. But sweating is a side effect of opiates. So they may have gotten somwtji.g more then they thought.
 
Yeah Kvk-Tech makes 5mg, 10mg, 15mg, 20mg, and 30mg.

It confused me at first when I was prescribed 10mg straight oxycodone no APAP And no OxyContin. I got the 10mg K56 tabs. I was like...ok so are these Roxi 10's? But Roxane only makes Roxicodone in 15&30. I kept wondering what they were generic for... But the answer was that they aren't generic for anything. Somehow the generic company just made up their own un-branded oxycodone tablet dosages.

5mg - K|18
10mg - K|56
15mg - K|8
20mg - K|57
30mg - K|9

Here's a pic of them all actually:
And there are two other known manufacturers in the US that make these exact same demonitations. I've seen the K|56 (prescribed) and the K|9's as well (on the street).

http://www.dropbox.com/s/kqantkgv1ul2344/2014-02-02 20.36.21.jpg


I wish doctors would lean more towards the 10mg and 20mg tabs rather than jumping straight to 15s and 30s in so many cases. I was prescribed the 'Box M, other side 05|52' followed by the K|56 10mg IRs by the same Physician Assistant when I lived in Colorado. She clearly knew her meds and knew that they existed, and I'm glad. They're honestly pretty damn rare since they aren't a generic for anything particularly. They just "exist" it seems.

Some people complained the "K's" (KvK-Tech 30's or below) were weaker but I found it to be the exact opposite. I was able to take them orally, intranasally, and IV.
 
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Lol I had this same argument last year with a friend

"They have to be OPs"

"No they look just like the 30s in size n shape. But they r greyish with a sort of purplish tinge. And they're crushable"

"Never heard of them"

Until of course I saw them in person n confirmed them on drugs.com pill identifier. It's what was said above...they aren't generic for anything they just sort of exist on their own by only one company.

I laughed reading this thread as it was almost exactly the discussion we had. Deja by for sure
 
Was it the new formula or the old one, ie the 'OP' formula in the US, or the new OxyNeo 'ON' formula in Canada? If they were then that would explain it. There are also some fakes that go around, so do you know if they felt anything from them?

Could they be lying about the frequency in which they use oxycodone?

I guessed they were IR. It ain't like there's only "perc"30's.

I thought Oxycodone IR tablets came in 5, 15 & 30mg's?

The ER's come in 10, 20, 40, 60 & 80mg's

If it was an OP which people that I know snort & still get high off of, then maybe its what you gave thema

I could be wrong but I never heard of Oxycodone IR tablets in 20mg form...........

In Canada they stop at 20mg. 5,10,20 when IR. Usually named Supeudol (by Sandoz) or OXY IR (purdue). There's also generic "Oxycodone".
 
My mistake I said roxicodone only comes in 15mg and 30mg but in fact Roxicodone has a 5mg one too.

When I got prescribed the 10mg IR's, I had to call 5 pharmacies before I found one that carried them, and I probably cleaned them out. These days docs simply use 5s, 15s, and 30s. I was later on prescribed roxi 5mg at an urgent care for an arm injury.

There are even plenty of preparations of oxy+ibuprofen that I wish were scripted more frequently as I feel ibuprofen is a better anti-inflammatory then generic ol' acetaminophen. Additionally, there are oxy-aspirin tab/cap preparations as well.

And after doing research on the 10's and 20's I found out there are actually a couple other uncommon manufacturers that make all 5 of those same dosages that KVK makes (ETHEX and Nesher):

All oxycodone IR seen here

http://www.opiateaddictionresource.com/media/images/oxycodone_ir
 
You people know this is a thread from almost 2 years ago, right?

Dammit. I always just assume they're new(er) when they're at the top. I don't personally dig up old threads but I still feel like an idiot for taking the time to research for my reply in one that's so old.
 
My mistake I said roxicodone only comes in 15mg and 30mg but in fact Roxicodone has a 5mg one too.

When I got prescribed the 10mg IR's, I had to call 5 pharmacies before I found one that carried them, and I probably cleaned them out. These days docs simply use 5s, 15s, and 30s. I was later on prescribed roxi 5mg at an urgent care for an arm injury.

There are even plenty of preparations of oxy+ibuprofen that I wish were scripted more frequently as I feel ibuprofen is a better anti-inflammatory then generic ol' acetaminophen. Additionally, there are oxy-aspirin tab/cap preparations as well.

And after doing research on the 10's and 20's I found out there are actually a couple other uncommon manufacturers that make all 5 of those same dosages that KVK makes (ETHEX and Nesher):

All oxycodone IR seen here

http://www.opiateaddictionresource.com/media/images/oxycodone_ir

Yeah my dentist scripted me generic percodan (Oxycodan), funny cos Percodans themselves are out of the market. While Percocets and silly things like Percocet-Demi are out there. But I sure did hurt less from the combo of oxy+aspirin than useless APAP (only good for fever imo, or killing a bad drug abuser's liver, depends from where you come from I guess 8)
 
Original Oxynorm comes in 5/10/20mg only and are capsules with a much higher bioavailability than the US tabletted forms. Oxynorm is still listed as available in the US. It is the binders that reduce b/a in the tablets. KVK Tech do make 20mg tablets, along with o.ther strengths not normally seen from other manufacturers.
Feedback from US friends indicates a preference for the capsules, esp when insufflated.
 
Absolutely in agreement, RealOblivion. To be honest there is no possible clinical reason for combining oxycodone with ANYTHING except perhaps in v low dosage when an antipyretic effect is desired. Even so, there are better drugs to combine with apap than oxycodone, in particular dihydrocodeine and Hydrocodone.
I had no idea that Ethex also made different strengths, I have only ever had their hydromorphone product.
 
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The first oxys I ever bought were 20 mg ir's The white football shaped ones. Brings back memories alright I thought they were the best thing to ever be invented. they still make those in Canada too my buddy's gotten them for yeats
 
They set still exist, my uncle is scripted them every month, they are either the k's or the ones imprinted with the np14
 
To be honest there is no possible clinical reason for combining oxycodone with ANYTHING

In general, opioids by themselves are not as good a painkiller as an opioid plus NSAID, at least when the patient can tolerate it. This is why we have Percocet, Percodan, Tylenol 3, Vicodin, etc.
 
I guess they figured they would allow the 20mg generics to stay around since there are 15's and 30's available, and it's not like they are 80s or anything. For some reason I can't find these 20s listed on the actual manufacturer websites. I tried clicking on pain management products here, but it didn't work for me (someone else might want to try bc my computer is acting up). The other manufacturer doesn't have it listed either. Maybe bigmorin is getting the last of them and they won't be around much longer.



Anyone that I have heard of doing that says that they end up pulling strings of nasty snot gel out of their nose.

i know there is a brand or 20 mg oxycodones that have "n p" on one side and 14 on the other and i found out those are from Nesher Pharmaceuticals, and they are supposed to be 20 mg ir oxycodone but i have found that they don't seem to even do the same mg's (supposedly) as a different brands of 10s (taking 2 obviously), so yeah it does seem like these are weak but in not way would i say they are fake or WAY lower than the 20 mg it claims to be.
 
Dude...I've done all kinda of oxy all different kinds of ways an for the better part of 6 years...and your question beats the hell out of me. Best I got? They're lying about how they felt or they're lying about their tolerance and wanted you to give them more. Or just wanted more. But I agree...under the circumstances you state...shoulda been WRECKED! Lol
 
Ooooh baby I MISS those K 57..if I remember right that's what they said on em, and saw it in the pick, but about 2 years ago I had a good plug on those.

His worked for SURE, I know that!
I'm not even a big fan of oxycodone compared to Mu agonists, but I dig those lil K57 beasts man, like to get me an Rx for those..
 
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I thought Oxycodone IR tablets came in 5, 15 & 30mg's?

The ER's come in 10, 20, 40, 60 & 80mg's

If it was an OP which people that I know snort & still get high off of, then maybe its what you gave them?


I could be wrong but I never heard of Oxycodone IR tablets in 20mg form...........
http://www.opiateaddictionresource.com/oxycodone_ir_KVK-Tech.jpg?attredirects=0
This shows the KVK Tech tablets.
Nether and Ethex also make 20mg Oxycodone tablets in the USA.
Everywhere else, original brand OxyNorm capsules (come to think of it, Mallinckrodt make capsules of all strengths as well) are available in 5, 10 and 20mg capsules - my AMERICAN friends tell me that a 20mg OXYNORM feels stronger than a 30mg US TABLETTED Oxy. This could be a bioavailability issue due to the binders used in the tabletting and wet granulation processes - capsules contain far less excipients which are far less likely to interfere with the bodily uptake of the API. Another drug, for interest's sake, which does not take kindly to being in tablet form is TEMAZEPAM. I always advise people who need temazepam for sleep to ask specifically for oral solution 10mg/5mL - I believe the concentrate has been withdrawn from the market. "Jellies" (gelcaps) containing the concentrated temazepam, brands NORMISON and EUHYPNOS were banned everywhere (back in the 80s, too many people were injecting the contents which led to an epidemic of loss of limbs and lives) and now are available, as well as a Sandoz generic (not very good), only in ONE country as far as I am aware. Since WYETH was bought by PFIZER and Aspen Healthcare, if I said the jellies in question are made by Aspen, you should be able to trace where to find them, though they will cost you a LOT of money due to rarity value.
However we are talking oxycodone.
The majority is capsuled and North America is the only place you will find tablets. But for potency and efficacy, the capsules are much better and I speak as a chronic pain patient who has been using opioids since 1994, oxycodone since 2000-2001. Most US citizens who want the m/r version since it was banned there five or so years back are now buying OC and not the pseudo-Oxycontin OP/ON from principally the UK, but also from IOPs based in România and the Netherlands. The 'plastinated' so-called "anti-abuse" formulation is only made in the US and exported to Canada and Mexico where they are given their respective imprints. Oxycontin in the rest of the world is as it always has been, and patients would never stand for the half strength, side effect packed garbage that poor AMERICAN patients now have to bear if being dispensed locally.
The 120mg Oxycontin purple tablets are not available outside the UK - Mudipharma do NOT distribute that strength throughout continental Europe, forcing people to spend a lot more on combinations of 40 and 80mg (strongest non-UK OC) tablets.
20mg is the highest strength of IR Oxy capsules, but as noted are actually MORE efficacious than US tablets of 30mg.
Contrary to the poster directly above, KVK Tech (we have communicated as I require oxymorphone HCl IR tablets for University Research purposes, and of course a goodly supply for myself for a change from oxycodone) still manufacture all strengths, so there is no need to 'miss' them. Any pharmacy worth their salt should be able to get ANY brand of ANY drug requested from wholesalers. Here in the UK, we never have to wait more than 24 hours (more usually 12 hours or less) for any item on a prescription as the majority of pharmacies get deliveries twice daily and can drop a box of anything into the order at a few minutes' notice.
Actavis UK have just introduced a generic, LYNLOR, which is more or less equivalent in every way to Oxynorm original brand, however the two generic MR tablets available here, OXYLAN by LANNACHER and the new Actavis RELTEBON, though not 'plastinated' or otherwise abuse proofed like in the US, are considered to be poor quality - I can vouch for the Lannacher's inferiority myself, the 80mg not even giving me the analgesia I get from branded 40mg yellow OC.
Oxynorm capsules are very commonly insufflated - very fast onset of action but a much reduced duration of action. Here in the UK we can buy dry powder insufflate gizmos from medical supply stores, and they are often used as they blow the powder just to the right distance to be captured by the appropriate mucous membranes, behind which are so many tiny blood vessels which absorb any oxycodone (or HYDROMORPHONE, the other opioid commonly insufflated, having HIGHER bioavailability INTRANASALLY than orally, the only drug I know of which has that property) which is not absorbed immediately.
I do note though that most generic manufacturers in the US make oxycodone tabs in only 5/15/30mg strengths for some reason. However there is plenty of choice, and the URL above will show you several brands which cover most useful strengths between 5 and 30mg.
 
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Cwake,
No, Roxicodone does NOT come in 5mg. Only the generics. Roxicodone are made by Xanodyne and only in 15/30mg. They carry the '54' code usually associated with Roxane Labs but are made by that X company in association with Mallinckrodt.
You will get 5mg by other companies such as KVK, Pharmascience, Ethex, But not ACTAVIS.
Or the tablets made under Mallinckrodt's own label.
 
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