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20mg. Oxycodone + 10mg. Hydrocodone mix
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TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
I remember trying oxycontin for the first time last summer & chewing 10mg, man those worked great & the rush was there after chewing it. Definitely there is a difference between the new & old formulation but the new OP's still are pretty good for pain. Aslo, they are super cheap compared what the old OC's were going for.
Isn't it all of ours
LoL! Believe it or not, some believe oxycodone is better than morphine/heroin. There are a lot that actually truly believe that. But of course, they aren't IV drug users, and even if they say they are, I wouldn't believe them.
Morphine is truly "God's own drug".
I say morphine, because at the end of the day, morphine is responsible for 99% of heroin's effect when IV'd. Even 6-MAM is converted to morphine very quickly. Heroin is a morphine prodrug.
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
Havent tried Morphine yet & I wanna try it one day. I have no plans of ever trying Heroin, at least I hope not.
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
I don't like Morphine orally, especially MSContin but it is incredible IV'd. Its a morphine prodrug and everything but I prefer Heroin, not by much but I do. I know there were studies proving most junkies couldn't tell the difference, but not all of them did and I would be one of them
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
I dont think oxycodone is all that. The high doesnt last as long & I think hydrocodone last longer for pain relief, at least for me it does.
Agreed. I prefer hydrocodone's high more. Better euphoria, stronger nod, better body high, etc. The only thing that sucks is the fact that oxycodone is slightly (1.5x) more potent and that hydrocodone comes loaded in formulations with APAP, ASA, or ibuprofen.
Oxycodone is all talk, but when it comes down to it - it ain't all that.
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Oxycodone is not "all talk". How is it "all talk"?
Heroin is a morphine prodrug. They are the same drug, basically. The heroin molecule is the exact same as the morphine molecule except the heroin molecule has 2 acetyl groups. When IV'd the 2 acetyl groups are deacetylated (removed) leaving only the morphine molecule which crosses the BBB and gets you high. The 2 acetyl groups make morphine more lipid soluble (quicker acting) so it crosses the BBB faster than morphine would on its own. So basically heroin is a quicker acting form of morphine. There is another very minor metabolite called 6-MAM that is also present, but it is present in very minute amounts and 6-MAM is quickly converted to morphine in the brain itself aswell.
Heroin is called di-acetyl-morphine or morphine acetate or diamorphine.
Here are the molecules:
Notice how they are identical, they only difference is the red part on the heroin molecule - those are the 2 acetyl group. They act like 'propellers' that 'propel' morphine to the brain quicker than morphine would on its own.
Morphine:
Heroin:
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
Heroin is a morphine prodrug. They are the same drug, basically. The heroin molecule is the exact same as the morphine molecule except the heroin molecule has 2 acetyl groups. When IV'd the 2 acetyl groups are deacetylated (removed) leaving only the morphine molecule which crosses the BBB and gets you high. The 2 acetyl groups make morphine more lipid soluble (quicker acting) so it crosses the BBB faster than morphine would on its own. So basically heroin is a quicker acting form of morphine. There is another very minor metabolite called 6-MAM that is also present, but it is present in very minute amounts and 6-MAM is quickly converted to morphine in the brain itself aswell.
Heroin is called di-acetyl-morphine or morphine acetate or diamorphine.
Here are the molecules:
Notice how they are identical, they only difference is the red part on the heroin molecule - those are the 2 acetyl group. They act like 'propellers' that 'propel' morphine to the brain quicker than morphine would on its own.
Morphine:
Heroin:
Interesting stuff. I did hear that once heroin enters the body, it changes over to morphine. Thing with heroin, unless you're getting pharmaceutical heroin, its all chopped up with aldulterants & dont know exactly what you're getting & how potent it will be. Thats why I wanna try morphine, cause you know exactly what you are getting.
Yes, and it's basically pharmaceutical heroin. Because "heroin's" high is actually morphine working those receptors.
weeeeeelll, mr. moderators, Back ON SUBJECT..... the Op's time release mechanism, I have used the microwave method and it does work because I felt it immediately but you do burn a bit away. if you have a decent tolerance then soaking it in pepsi overnight will work, the jelly time release will seperate and release all of the oxycodone into the shotglass of pepsi, and then you can drink it down all at once, I've never tried this but I've seen many people do it and they confirmed full effects... The easiest way around the OP time release though and most simple is, to shave it down, (yes a ped egg or even a small hole food grater 4 bucks at food lion) works best, shave it down to a powder and eat about 5 mg.... wait 15 minutes then eat another 5 mg., wait 10 more minutes and 5 more mg down the hatch. since it only relases5-10 mg per hour, everytime you introduce more into your system it's close to the exact amount that's suppose to be released, so it IS released, every few minutes just dump a little more down the hatch till you reach your desired dose and voila you've got instant release OXY, quite simple. one of those ideas that's right in front of your face but no one can see.. LOL...
P.S. DO NOT I repeat DO NOT snort the OP's unless of course you have used the microwave method then it's fine, but otherwise DO NOT snort them, not only will it not break the time release but it also will Fuck up your nose from the Gelling....
P.S. DO NOT I repeat DO NOT snort the OP's unless of course you have used the microwave method then it's fine, but otherwise DO NOT snort them, not only will it not break the time release but it also will Fuck up your nose from the Gelling....
It's not all that it's cracked up to be. Many people prefer hydrocodone's high to oxycodone's, but it's too bad hydrocodone doesn't come in a formula all on its own like oxycodone does. Morphine/heroin and hydromorphone make oxycodone seem like codeine in comparison (IV'd of course). Even taken in the right amounts orally or intranasally morphine/heroin and hydromorphone would make a joke of oxycodone. Methadone totally beats it out.
There's a lot of hype behind oxycodone that the media pushes. It is not the drug that the media makes it out to be "hillbilly heroin" - that's hydromorphone. "Hospital heroin" - is morphine.
Oxycodone doesn't even have a relation to heroin (direct relation), yet they call it synthetic heroin. It's derived from thebaine that's first and second it's in the codeine family of opioids.
The most euphoric and best opiates are the 3,6 Diesters of Morphine - many of which are morphine prodrugs like heroin, some aren't (morphine/heroin, desomorphine, nicomorphine, dibenzoylmorphine, acetylpropionylmorphine, etc)