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2024 US Presidential Election

Jnowhere said:
Don't start your condescending bullshit, I already discussed that, read the large post I made, I blamed Bush then Obama. Lies and bullshit, got it, is what you have, read my post fully and stop bothering me with nonsense, because I blamed Bush; because we had a surplus and due to those two wars which the democrats supported, 98 votes in the Senate for it( out of 100 Senators and alot of Democratic House members, it got fucked up and the Bush administration, he managed to fuck up the Middle East even worse.

But this is all part of the Globalists plans. Research the Bush Family, especially his grandfather and dad.
He was a puppet of the Globalists, 3rd generation Skull and Bones.

His dad was evil as fuck. He even is believed to be part of JFK's death. Do the research and stop regurgitating what the idiot box is telling you.
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Easy there, big fella. I read your post. Just trying to clarify one thing.

How do you feel about the moon landing? Is that real?
 
Of, course it is and: THE WORLD IS ROUNDISH, NOT A PERFECT SPHERE, BUT SLIGHTLY OVAL.

How JFK's assassination was a conspiracy or plot by many. Watch the Oliver Stone Film, and read about it.
 
Jnowhere said:
Of, course it is and: THE WORLD IS ROUNDISH, NOT A PERFECT SPHERE, BUT SLIGHTLY OVAL.

How JFK's assassination was a conspiracy or plot by many. Watch the Oliver Stone Film, and read about it.
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And Bush was involved?
Still waiting to hear what mandatory spending is.
 
Jnowhere said:
35 trillion debt is like living of credit cards, bidennomics, is causing the looming depression. They are handing Trump the election because they know the economy is going to crash and want someone to take the blame for biden, Obama and bush's fuck ups.
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Trump is actually getting spanked right now, election wise, with regards to media and PR at least. It's very clear that the GOP had no strategy for campaigning against anyone other than Biden. What would have been likely a clear trump victory has become far more competitive, and Trump has the most baggage between the two candidates.
 
The debt is nonsense. That's not what causes inflation, inflation is caused by landlords and corporations squeezing profits. Increasing prices while restricting wages as much as possible, the government debt has literally nothing to do with that and that's what profit driven economy will always do no matter how much the government prints or spends.

On the other hand government spending is good things, it improves the economy by providing income for people and hopefully investing in programs that help the people. Infrastructure programs create jobs, putting regulation on companies bidding for those jobs helps increase wages and put the money to the most use which is buying good materials and spending on enough labor to do good work without cutting corners.

Prevent the leeches from sucking out money where's its actually put to good use, not buying another yacht for a rich person

Japan does tons of government spending and look at how their economy is doing
 
someguyontheinternet said:
The debt is nonsense. That's not what causes inflation, inflation is caused by landlords and corporations squeezing profits. Increasing prices while restricting wages as much as possible, the government debt has literally nothing to do with that and that's what profit driven economy will always do no matter how much the government prints or spends.

On the other hand government spending is good things, it improves the economy by providing income for people and hopefully investing in programs that help the people. Infrastructure programs create jobs, putting regulation on companies bidding for those jobs helps increase wages and put the money to the most use which is buying good materials and spending on enough labor to do good work without cutting corners.

Prevent the leeches from sucking out money where's its actually put to good use, not buying another yacht for a rich person

Japan does tons of government spending and look at how their economy is doing
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They have stagnation growth and there currency is no longer a major one, because of debt.
 
deficiT said:
Trump is actually getting spanked right now, election wise, with regards to media and PR at least. It's very clear that the GOP had no strategy for campaigning against anyone other than Biden. What would have been likely a clear trump victory has become far more competitive, and Trump has the most baggage between the two candidates.
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i was watching olympic highlights last night and saw two trump campaign ads.

the difference between the tone of the two campaign right now could not be more stark. the trump campaign ads didn't say a single thing about trump or what he plans to do (not that he makes good on campaign promises anyway). the harris campaign is addressing issues and solutions.

and there's a lot of talk about joy in the campaigns. the trump ads - and that absolute trainwreck of a presser at mar a lago - are so negative and depressing and dark right now.

and the contrast between the v.p. candidates is stark too. i think vance struggles to be relatable but walz seems a natural and, looking at his history, it's clear why.

the vance attacks on walz' military service are an odd choice to me and i don't think they can be going down very well.

deficiT said:
Depends on the polls you read, but many show Harris ahead
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if you look at analysis that averages multiple polls, there's been about a 5% swing towards harris which is huge.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i was watching olympic highlights last night and saw two trump campaign ads.

the difference between the tone of the two campaign right now could not be more stark. the trump campaign ads didn't say a single thing about trump or what he plans to do (not that he makes good on campaign promises anyway). the harris campaign is addressing issues and solutions.

and there's a lot of talk about joy in the campaigns. the trump ads - and that absolute trainwreck of a presser at mar a lago - are so negative and depressing and dark right now.

and the contrast between the v.p. candidates is stark too. i think vance struggles to be relatable but walz seems a natural and, looking at his history, it's clear why.

the vance attacks on walz' military service are an odd choice to me and i don't think they can be going down very well.



if you look at analysis that averages multiple polls, there's been about a 5% swing towards harris which is huge.

alasdair
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Walz is the guy who will mow your lawn when you've broken your leg.
Vance is the guy who will file a complaint with the city about it.
 
i was just talking to a friend about the election and he said "people are just bored of the tump show."

i think he's pretty spot on.

i think that his unwavering fans loves to hear him talk about how harris and walz are communists, the election was stolen, etc. but a lot of less committed fans and uncertain voters have just heard it too many times now and they're looking for more substance, something trump is woefully short of.

vermont gop chairman paul dame had this to say: "I think we’re starting to see the old Trump that a lot of Republicans got tired of in 2020, got tired of defending him...If the next three months is defined by more examples like this I think he’s going to see some of that soft centrist support deteriorate."

alasdair
 
Honestly I think the abortion/contraceptive issue will put the dems in the White House. Woman's rights. And they seemed fired up compared to the other side of tired old white men telling woman what they can or can't do. There I see the most momentum.

No wonder trump is freaking out. He may have to face reality and not the one he forms in his head.
 
I hope y'all are right, but I just watched Rick Wilson "The Elephant In The Room" and he gave good words to what's been bothering me.
Many have seen Trump's latest presser. He was rambling, senile, and in mental disarray as well as lying. Yet, the corporate media is still both sidesing this and treating his crazy, divorced from reality, rambles as valid political points. If Biden had had a presser like that, they would have questioned his competence.
It's not a plot. Corporate media doesn't serve corporations because of cigar smoke in back rooms. It serves corporations because it's a corporation. It's automatic. In this case, they're both sidesing because it makes (maybe) an exciting race.

Both sidesing encourages one side to go to crazy extremes since the middle is then more to their liking. Both sidesing when one side is lying constantly is wrong.

As long as Trump can snap his fingers and get billions of dollars worth of TV time that doesn't address the elephant in the room...


He didn't even leave home.
 
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Trump is complaining they spent a lot of money campaigning against Joe. He wants him back as to not waste money. Or he wants to be reimbursed. He says it is not fair. What the Dems did was a play, much like when a football team runs out the clock on some plays to win. It is a legit strategy. But I can't stop laughing when I heard trump complaining they wasted money and now he should be paid back.
 
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