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2024 US Presidential Election

alasdairm said:
i'd rather not assume... why do you say that?

alasdair
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thehill.com

Ex-White House lawyer says Supreme Court could rule ‘9-0’ in possible Trump 14th Amendment case

Former White House lawyer Ty Cobb predicted Tuesday that the U.S. Supreme Court could rule “9-0” in favor of former President Trump in a potential appeal of Colorado Supreme Court&#8217…
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The Colorado Supreme Court ruled the office of the president falls under the insurrection clause, which states those who previously took oaths to support the Constitution as a “member of Congress,” “officer of the United States,” “member of any State legislature” or an “executive or judicial officer of any State” cannot engage in a rebellion against it.

“The real key issue in this case is — is Trump an officer in the United States in the context in which that term is used in the Article 3 of the 14th Amendment,” Cobb said. “And in 2010, Chief Justice [John] Roberts explained in free enterprise that people don’t vote for officers of the United States.”

Cobb went on to reference multiple Supreme Court decisions that do not conclude officers include the president or vice president in this context.

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump’s campaign, has already vowed the Trump campaign will appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority and includes three justices nominated by Trump.
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mal3volent said:
thehill.com

Ex-White House lawyer says Supreme Court could rule ‘9-0’ in possible Trump 14th Amendment case

Former White House lawyer Ty Cobb predicted Tuesday that the U.S. Supreme Court could rule “9-0” in favor of former President Trump in a potential appeal of Colorado Supreme Court&#8217…
thehill.com thehill.com
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A 9-0 decision seems unlikely to me. The political environment of the USA definitely affects judicial decisions…they’d like to portray themselves as mostly apolitical jurists pondering the meaning of language in some founding document but c’mon…the decision to award the presidency to Bush during the Bush-Gore election thing, which was 5-4 iirc, broke down neatly along partisan lines, and to say that the decision for Trump will hinge on whether or not Trump is an officer of the USA in the original context of the 14th amendment, that just seems to willfully ignore the political context. The Colorado decision itself wasn’t an absolute blowout one way or the other, it was a close vote
 
I’d say that overall it’s more likely that the Supreme Court rules in Trumps favor though. Hell he personally appointed a third of em
 
it’s important to stress, in that michigan ruling, that it’s not the end of the road. the decision was specific to trump’s appearance on the primary ballot only.

assuming trump becomes the republican nominee, i assume they’ll just try again.

alasdair
 
Lauren Boebert abandons her House district for 2024 election

"Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) on Wednesday night announced plans to seek election in a solidly Republican House seat across the state from her current Western Colorado district."

tell us you don't give a shit about your constituents without saying you don't give a shit about your constituents...

is there a more cynical, carpetbagging example of caring more about just being elected than ones principles or the solemn duty of representing the interests of ones constituents?

she is truly awful.

alasdair
 
I guess maybe that district is more amenable to the idea of electing the politician deemed most likely to get finger blasted in the parking lot of a Waffle House, I dunno

Don’t listen to the haters Mrs. Boob-Hair! You do you grrrrrllll…
 
Maine elections official disqualifies Trump from presidential primary ballot

"WASHINGTON, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Maine’s top election official on Thursday disqualified Donald Trump from the state ballot in next year’s U.S. presidential primary election, becoming the second state to bar the former president for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a Democrat, concluded that Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination in 2024, incited an insurrection when he spread false claims about voter fraud in the 2020 election and then urged his supporters to march on the Capitol to stop lawmakers from certifying the vote."

alasdair
 
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I think I heard we wouldn't know who won the Iowa caucus until Super Tuesday... what's up with that ?
 
“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”
Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-hopes-economy-crashes-014348407.html
 
^ right. if you're a trump supporter how do you spin that?

also: Trump cannot legally qualify for Nevada’s 2024 primary ballot

"The Supreme Court may consider if states can disqualify Trump from their primaries. No matter how justices rule, it will not alter the Silver State’s election.

When Nevada’s Republican voters receive their sample ballots for the state’s presidential preference primary this month, the name of the party’s current frontrunner will be missing.

His absence has nothing to do with any legal challenges to former president Donald Trump’s eligibility to participate in the state’s primary. Nevada’s Supreme Court, unlike Colorado’s, was never given the opportunity to rule on whether Trump’s behavior during and immediately following the 2020 election violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which forbids those who commit insurrection from being eligible for elected office. Similarly, Secretary of State Cisco Aguilar, a Democrat, didn’t have the opportunity his colleague in Maine had to weigh in on the question himself.

No, Trump is ineligible for Nevada’s primary ballot because Trump’s campaign didn’t fill out an application to place him on Nevada’s primary ballot."

only the best people.

alasdair
 
that whole article is pretty interesting. thanks for posting.

while we're on the subject of bipartisanship, i read that maga republicans have already started talking about replacing the speaker for having the audacity to talk about working with democrats...

alasdair
 

Donald J. Trump wins the Iowa Republican caucus.​

Race called by The Associated Press. The race was called before most of the votes were reported, which often means the call was based on polls and other data

www.nytimes.com

Iowa Caucus Results

Get live election results, maps and our live forecast of the outcome from the Iowa Republican caucus.
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