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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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^ yeah, that's what i'm hearing. it's a mess.

liquidmethod i know you're a true believer but please lay off the patronising remarks calling people ignorant. it's not a great look.
the accusations against trump have really gathered momentum in the last 2-3 days after donald jr made some self-incriminating remarks regarding collusion with russian hackers before the election.
 
LiquidMethod said:
Seems like most of you have yet been unable to do that...
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why? why do you say that? people who disagree with you can only be ignorant and uninformed?

it's simply not possible that we too were "intelligent enough to extricate myself from all that bullshit and then view the situation objectively" and just come to a different conclusion than you?

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alasdair
 
LiquidMethod said:
What we need at the moment it someone that genuinely cares about the United States, and humanity at large.
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i genuinely do not believe that trump cares about the people of the united states and humanity at large.

LiquidMethod said:
People are sick of ex-lawyer career politicians who say all the nice, warm, fuzzy things that make us feel good on the inside while simultaneously selling us out to globalists and international corporate interests.
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i literally laughed out loud when i read this.

counter examples: his education secretary; his epa administrator; his hss secretary; his secretary of state; his secretary of commerce; his secretary of the treasury; etc.

his cabinet is a 'who's who?' of corporate interest. how can you make that statement and not see this? can you help me understand how trump has made good on his promise to "drain the swamp"?

alasdair
 
he didn't drain the swamp as much as poison the well of american political discourse and standards.

i'm as much disturbed by his supporters' unquestioning loyalty as i am by trump's administration.
 
spacejunk said:
i'm as much disturbed by his supporters' unquestioning loyalty as i am by trump's administration.
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I had to dig deep to make sense of such denial in the supporters. How could that even be? How can people support some of this stuff? The answer for me was in a biblical sense. Some people have a warped belief that the republicans must keep the power so they go along with the nonsense. To sell their souls to such an extent for power is text book scripture on what NOT to do to save yourself.

Hey, I had to find comfort somewhere in all of this. I am being nicer in my day to day activities and I am meeting very nice people. I think people are trying to compensate for the hate being spotlighted in our society. I know it always existed but i think now it is brought out into the light for all to see.

Can't wait for the next phase.
 
LiquidMethod said:
IF Trump starts signing legislation along these lines then I will have a right to criticize him. But until then, all you critics simply come across as ignorant, butthurt hypocrites.
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He already signed legislation making it legal for your IP to sell your browsing information. I'd say that's pretty near Patriot Act level stuff.... not quite, but approaching it. So did you like Bush Jr. and his military coup when Gore won the election in 2000, and his subsequent killing of thousands of Americans in 2001 so that he could push the Patriot Act through (he being a general term for the GOP shadow hierarchy pulling Jr.'s strings)? Serious question.


In regards to Trump's motives for running, I think they were entirely egocentric, and that it was literally all just so he could lay there on his death bed and have his dying words be, "But I was president... *agghhh*!" and that's it. It's 100% just his need for attention and to be in the spotlight that spurred this whole thing. That's why I think his supporters must be missing a gear in their head, it's right there in front of you, clear that he's in it for the money and fame, but nooooo, he's there to help the 'little guys'. You know, like that little guy Jeff Sessions who was being oppressed for his totally righteous anti-drug views, or those little guys over at Goldman-Sachs who were just sooooo oppressed by the tyrannical reign of Obama.
 
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US President Donald Trump's eldest son has released an email chain showing he eagerly agreed to meet with a Russian government lawyer to obtain incriminating information on his father's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton as part of Moscow's support for the then Republican candidate.
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Well, well, well . . .

At least he released the emails. :\
 
I wonder if CIA or FBI are seriously investigating the current situation. I mean for how much longer can their findings be classified (?) and if they have actually come to something corrupt, would they actually take an action against the president? This seems quite serious to me.
 
it's serious.

trump jr. basically tweeted out the proof that he committed a federal crime.

the hypocrisy of trump supporters chanting "lock her up" but blowing this off as fake news is obviously lost on them (or they just don't care) but i don't think this can be ignored.

alasdair
 
Howdy! I've been camping. Wha'd I miss? An underling did something bad, and this is different from all the other bad things? (I honestly don't know yet)
 
^Hey scrofula :)

Not so much an underling though.

cj said:
Trump is done. That's the smoking gun for collusion everyone has been asking for.
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I agree, its gotta be. But why would he release this shit?

Is it too good to be true?

C'mon Trumpites, try to spin this one and good luck ;)
 
OK fine, I looked. So junior done it. "It" being straight treason.

Meeting with agents of a foreign power for opposition research.
Which we all knew already, but now they've got the idiot's email.

It would be . . . poetic if email brings them down.

I think that's a capital offense, right? Trump supporters firmly support the death penalty.
 
I'm telling you guys, you're being far too optimistic.

The money has already started flowing freely between all the right hands I'm certain, and it will clear Trump of everything somehow. It's always the money...
 
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