2017 Trump Presidency Thread
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Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
And it's all revealed.
There never was any Ms. Liquid.
This was all a plan to liven-up the User Agreement!
Right to Internet is also very leftist, and would be opposed vehemently by Republicans. It will eventually happen in the US, through precedents.
Why would Republicans oppose? It means an ISP or phone provider has to hook you up, for free if you can't pay.
There never was any Ms. Liquid.
This was all a plan to liven-up the User Agreement!
Right to Internet is also very leftist, and would be opposed vehemently by Republicans. It will eventually happen in the US, through precedents.
Why would Republicans oppose? It means an ISP or phone provider has to hook you up, for free if you can't pay.
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who grants such a right? in which law/document is the right to internet access enshrined?
alasdair
LiquidMethod
Ex-Bluelighter
I was a Bernie supporter until I found out he was a liar that voted for basically every single war and refused to debate Clinton properly which could have secured him the win.
He is the definition of a cuck and his failures allowed Trump to swoop in and destroy Clinton easily. Sanders was never serious.
Also "alasdair" I admitted I was wrong and you continued to lambast me. Real classy
He is the definition of a cuck and his failures allowed Trump to swoop in and destroy Clinton easily. Sanders was never serious.
Also "alasdair" I admitted I was wrong and you continued to lambast me. Real classy
Username369
Bluelighter
So now you're saying the CIA is meddling with every single major news organization in the world? Wow.. you just reached a whole new level of brainwashed right there..If I hadn't read the rest of this thread I'd honestly think you were trolling right now..
First, making snide remarks is by definition the exact opposite of losing his cool so yeah, you're not making any sense whatsoever. About the Trump roast, seeing as this was after Trump spent years pushing the birther bullshit and pretty much daily twitter rant against Obama, I'd say Obama went pretty fucking easy on him with his lighthearted minute and a half roast. He shoulda said much worse actually. But you're right that it's worth watching again and again and laughing even more at it.
I don't even know where to start with this part.. I might agree about it being better to be able to tell when he lies if he was just lying about political stuff, but the fact is that he lies CONSTANTLY about every fucking thing. He just makes shit up cause he likes to hear himself talk and has one of the worse inferiority complex paired with a completely delusional sense of reality. He has no credibility anywhere in the world (where it matters anyway) so how the hell is he supposed to deal with other leaders when they all know he's completely full of shit?
And not that it matters anymore since Obama's no longer President, but I challenge you to find every single lie he said in his entire political career and I'll give you 10 of Trump's for every single one, just since he became President. Btw, you shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of.. e.g. psychopath.. Cause Obama is pretty damn far from one and Trump fits almost every single aspect of it. And last but not least, if Trump really is what you consider a model for a human, I'm fucking glad you're all the way over there in Australia and sure hope you stay there!
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does not say "i was wrong". just sayin.
based on your recent posts, i had no idea you were quite so sensitive. apologies.
alasdair
you think? interesting.
perhaps you could post an example - a law, an excerpt from a constitutional document, what have you - demonstrating a country (or two or three) where there is a right to internet access?
alasdair
Username369
Bluelighter
Damn, I almost missed another great chance to show how wrong your info is! He voted against the war in Iraq and the Gulf war, and his stance has never been anti war, it was war as a last resort, as he clearly outlined on his webpage
https://berniesanders.com/issues/war-and-peace/
P.s. It's also kinda funny how the right has been using cuck so much for the last year, since the left has been using cuckservative (much better use of it btw) for twice as long
And yeah, I know I'm being cocky but I can't help it anymore
you're making a claim but you're unable or unwilling to back it up. i'll draw the obvious conclusion.
alasdair
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
One of the reasons I was never in to Bernie--he was a populist same as Trump. Free college for everyone? Pointless and impractical. It's a dig at classism, and that I support, but it's not much different than "build a wall" (the difference being it's not racist and xenophobic). Anti-Wall Street? OK, in what way, Bernie? What would you have done to it? But, next to Trump's monosyllabic stutters, if was The Wealth of Nations.
There's a great spread in Time before the primaries, photos of Iowa corn fed young'ins, groups for Bernie and groups for Trump. One and only one obvious difference: you could tell by looking the Bernie group smoked a lot of pot (and that the Trump kids thought it "was wrong").
"He is the definition of a cuck"
Ms. Liquid, do you know the definition of cuckold? I think that you do not.
There's a great spread in Time before the primaries, photos of Iowa corn fed young'ins, groups for Bernie and groups for Trump. One and only one obvious difference: you could tell by looking the Bernie group smoked a lot of pot (and that the Trump kids thought it "was wrong").
"He is the definition of a cuck"
Ms. Liquid, do you know the definition of cuckold? I think that you do not.
Bagseed
Bluelighter
well I enjoy a practically free university education, so at least where I live, it is very possible...
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
California, at least, has a very cheap (I'm being relative) community college system. And it's free for anyone willing to put some effort into applying for a grant. My second year was free just because I had a decent GPA, didn't even ask.
It's just the culture here uses college more as a status symbol, less as education. I don't know the stats exactly, but something like every extra dollar available as a college grant, tuition increases $1.10. There will always be en element of exclusivity, no matter what it costs. So making a certain tier free for everyone would only increase tuition across the board. Yale and Harvard will do what they can to make sure you don't get in without some kind of elite bona fides.
As pro-education over-educated nerd as I am, college is not for everyone, and shouldn't be seen that way. It should not be seen as a road paved with gold to opportunity; you go there to learn a specialty. That's it.
What's needed is an overhaul of "college". For most people, four years and a hundred grand get you a line on your CV. We need an alternative for them (although as a former grad student, I found research universities greatly benefit from all the undergrads--you folks basically fund us, so colleges are not about to discourage attendance).
i don't think that education is pointless - why do you think that?
i was a product of an entirely free higher education - my undergraduate and post-graduate studies didn't cost me a penny and provided me with opportunities i would not have otherwise had. is it impractical? maybe, but you just have to decide that education is a priority and then craft a plan to pay for it (which he did).
the gop's healthcare plan is basically a massive tax cut for the rich and the drug and insurance industries and it's paid for by cutting health care for millions of americans. it can flow the other way too. but not today.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
alasdair
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
You should tread carefully here.
alisadair has a special relationship with the Maori King and has been given broad powers directly from the aboriginal council.
Must... not ... say... more....
The word limit on mobile posts is 10,000. "I love Trump" is three. What gives?
Scrofula
Bluelight Crew
What does the family of four right above the poverty line think about college? A lot of them, especially immigrants, really want to send their kids to one. Why? So they can get a BA in pyschology, which maybe they thought was interesting, but never really cared about. It's for the line on the CV, because you HAVE to have a degree, right? You have to have one because every else does. Does any of it have anything to do with the experiences or knowledge gained? For the majority, no.
Superwealthy send their kids to elite schools to join frats, meet people, get connected and hired at the big Wall St firms. Wealthy send their kids to Universities so they can meet people and get a good start in a brand-name office. The poor try to send their kids to college because it's that or the military.
And none of it has anything to do with learning anything. Those that do, great, but not for the pressure it puts on the non-wealthy to compete. That pressure, being the driving force for tuition increases, will take any attempt to help the lower classes and wipe it out. Your free colleges will slowly erode into sub-community colleges, and that'll bring K-12 down with it.
But mostly it wouldn't work because the money would be a constant political football, and free colleges would never get going. The Republicans would be constantly chewing at it.
Bernie knew all of this, but it's a nice thing to chant, really, which is the definition of a populist.
Superwealthy send their kids to elite schools to join frats, meet people, get connected and hired at the big Wall St firms. Wealthy send their kids to Universities so they can meet people and get a good start in a brand-name office. The poor try to send their kids to college because it's that or the military.
And none of it has anything to do with learning anything. Those that do, great, but not for the pressure it puts on the non-wealthy to compete. That pressure, being the driving force for tuition increases, will take any attempt to help the lower classes and wipe it out. Your free colleges will slowly erode into sub-community colleges, and that'll bring K-12 down with it.
But mostly it wouldn't work because the money would be a constant political football, and free colleges would never get going. The Republicans would be constantly chewing at it.
Bernie knew all of this, but it's a nice thing to chant, really, which is the definition of a populist.
LiquidMethod
Ex-Bluelighter
Yeah well you can call me a conspiracy theorist all day but that just shows how uninformed you are concerning some very important issues. Also that is not exactly why I just said, you are misrepresenting my claim. Why trust specifically dishonest media for the facts or to inform you of who is being dishonest? Makes no sense
https://www.sott.net/article/316298-Journalist-investigates-the-CIAs-involvement-in-shaping-popular-culture-via-the-entertainment-industry
https://www.sott.net/article/300936-CIA-admits-to-Congress-the-agency-uses-mainstream-media-to-distribute-disinformation-1975-video
https://www.sott.net/article/256730-CIA-media-infiltration-is-real-From-Operation-Mockingbird-to-Pentagon-social-media-trolls
(at least attempt to read the articles first before discrediting a source)
This is an emotional, vague and unrealistic assessment. It's comments like these that prevent me from taking your criticisms seriously. It's just very subjective, media-influenced drivel not based in reality. Try harder.
I've studied psychopathy extensively so I know exactly what I am talking about in this department. Trump shows signs of narcissistic personality disorder and although narcissism is one of the prerequisites for psychopathy it is does not make one a psychopath. If you fail to recognize the psychopathic traits that Obama exhibits then you may well have fallen under the charm of a "successful psychopath".
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/14/1500932/-Bernie-s-Iraq-War-Hypocrisy-where-did-Bernie-really-stand-on-overthrowing-Saddam
https://www.sott.net/article/302535-What-liberals-probably-dont-know-about-war-monger-Bernie-Sanders
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/sanders-economic-pussycat/
I'm posting from a PC. Once my posts reach a few paragraphs the forum cucks out and gives me an error message. It's frustrating enough for me to consider refraining from posting, which I'm sure will fill you all with much glee so that you can re-initiate the little Trump-bashing circlejerk that comprises this thread.
I am a US citizen so I have a vested interest in doing what's best for the country. Sorry to inform you but I plan to return soon, and I have not felt this genuine hope for the state of the nation since Obama was first elected. We all saw how the media and establishment pushed him as a life-changing candidate, and how he then spectacularly failed to make any beneficial changes and basically became Bush 2.0. If you fail to realize this and are still a supporter of Obama after 8 years, then I don't know what to tell you. You're either stupid, have been massively hoodwinked, and/or place far too much of your belief and trust into partisan politics. Dems & Reps are part of the same criminal cabal which is why we're seeing partisan collusion to remove this outsider who managed to infiltrate their little corrupt system. People do not want the status quo to change even though it is royally fucking them in their asses. Change is scary, and many people would rather the nation continue on a downward trajectory than admit they were wrong about Trump and have him take credit for improving the nation. Basically a large segment of the population is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, and I largely blame the media who are in the pockets of politicians and nefarious corporatist, globalist interests.
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cduggles
Bluelight Crew
^^Return through Syria. Raqqa is great this time of year and you can mingle with the Americans there.
Username369
Bluelighter
So much delusion, denial and blame projection in a single post.. 8( I'm just gonna stop wasting my time here. Enjoy the kool aid
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