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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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What negative effects has his presidency had on america so far?
Has the economy suffered?
 
Soso78 said:
What negative effects has his presidency had on america so far?
Has the economy suffered?
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A lot of people are suffering already.
Take, for instance, the 70 year old beloved Australian children's author aggressively interrogated in an airport yesterday.
Or the people being split up from their families, or denied entry, for simply having an Iranian stamp on their passports, and other such bureaucratic strong-arming.

5 weeks in and it's a fucking nightmare for a lot of people.
 
David Duke sounds more reasonable than "progressives" that believe in multiculturalism, to me.

Consumer is involved in low level thinking, and hopes everyone else is too, by name-calling, calling me/others "KKK", or whatever. I might post a video where a Jew is speaking about genes and intelligence, and Jews. Basically, I am called a Nazi or whatever, or white supremacist, for talking about the same things he is. He is a behavioral scientist and linguist, and is a professor of psychology at Harvard. What he talks about does have implications if it works out, although he doesn't talk about it, that support the so-called "Nazi" views that I was accused of, by noone1. Many "race realists" (KKKNaziracists for people who don't like to think) reference his work.

 
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Okay I will spell it out for you: Favoring a race is on par with rape and murder, completely natural and healthy to our species. That is what you are advocate for. Of course it annoys you to be shown to be a terrible human being.
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I never claimed to be good. Neither did Jesus.

You don't really "spell" that well, though.

Edit: You aren't honest. You can't possibly be. I favor my family first, at least that would be very natural for me. Because my family and one that I would produce would reflect, and support, and resonate with me/I them, I would want to choose people who also reflect me/my vibe/my values, to live around- it would be the preference. This would more often than not group with/fall on race (from the bottom), nation, religion... It would be very reasonable to "favor" your own race/culture, like you favor yourself/your own family, for survival. Nobody is evil for it. I don't consider the Japanese or Jews evil for putting themselves first. It is honest.
 
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Sj why was she interrogated?
I'm not on about a few people having trouble with passports Im on about America as a whole, whats the biggest problem trumo has caused?
 
SJ- if people keep pissing all over the place I'll try to clean it up, especially when they piss on me. This keeps coming up because none argue against it in any way that is satisfactory enough to shut up about it.
 
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She was interrogated because she was entering the United States.

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The Australian children’s book author Mem Fox has suggested she might never return to the US after she was detained and insulted by border control agents at Los Angeles airport.

Fox, who is famous worldwide for her best-selling books including Ten Little Fingers and Ten Little Toes and Possum Magic, was en route to a conference in Milwaukee earlier this month when she was stopped.

She told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation she was questioned by border agents for two hours in front of a room full of people – an experience that left her feeling like she had been physically assaulted.

“I have never in my life been spoken to with such insolence, treated with such disdain, with so many insults and with so much gratuitous impoliteness,” Fox said.
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What 23 said:
SJ- if people keep pissing all over the place I'll try to clean it up, especially when they piss on me. This keeps coming up because none of you argue it in any way that is satisfactory.
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It is futile discussing it with you, because you've arrived at such an irrational conclusion.
No amount of reasoned debate is "satisfactory" to you, so nobody bothers.

The KKK are antiquated redneck terrorists. What's the point in engaging with that?
 
So what's that got to do with trump?
Border control have Prob treated people bad for years, the police have do Im guessing they have.
 
Well, to some degree that has happened for years, but surely you're not unaware of the immigration chaos trump is causing?

It's having a very real effect on people's lives already.
 
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It is futile discussing it with you, because you've arrived at such an irrational conclusion.
No amount of reasoned debate is "satisfactory" to you, so nobody bothers.

The KKK are antiquated redneck terrorists. What's the point in engaging with that?
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QFT.

I really don't know why you're so scared of intermingling, What 23. Honestly, now that I live in a predominantly white middle class neighborhood, I feel less safe than when I lived in a mostly black ghetto where there was an attempted murder in front of my house (like right in front the cops wouldn't let me in my home for a day). You know why? Because the people here are reactionaries, and the people in the ghetto kept to themselves. I get mean-mugged by my middle class neighbors, when I had real friendships with my neighbors in the ghetto. Your arguments have no merit and I really don't know why you believe them yourself.
 
Well if it been happening for years it's not what trump has caused.

He got some legitimate concerns imo about some countries, Iran being one of them, but I think he going about it wrong.
Makes sence to have tougher security on countries known for Islamic extremism nd war/terrorism.
Wether you like it or not a large percentage of Americans have the same concerns and trumps playing on it.

I know it off topic but it's prob the main reason UK voted to leave the EU. Border control played a huge roll in brexit.
 
Demagogue politicians use the race-card to divide populations, and exploit the fear and ignorance of certain sections of the community.
It's ugly, it's totally disingenuous, and it is going to fuck up a lot of people's lives.
It's got absolutely nothing to do with "security" and everything to do with racist dog-whistling propaganda.

If you're one of the people being pandered to, then you'll probably never see how you're being played, and how you're voting against your own interests and those of fellow (presumably) working class people.

Racism is a very old tactic used by the ruling classes to divide and conquer.
 
I'm not scared of "intermingling". I don't like to see my country go from 90℅ white to 60 and dropping, though, and mass immigration occurring all throughout the west. I want Germans to stay German more or less, and I'm sure most of them agree. Most Europeans actually want Islamic Immigration and African Immigration to stop.

My "conclusions" that there are many issues with groups interacting, and that it shouldn't be promoted on the level that it is, they are not at all "irrational". They may not be the answer, and this, I never claimed. Quite honestly I doubt you can tell me which claim or "conclusions" I have made are irrational. I doubt that you could explain why it is. I bet that I could provide more reason for my views. Care to try this?
 
Guys, lets move on from the white supremacist stuff.

Trumps government is losing members like a dead dog loses fleas. He is signing executive order after executive order. He has not fulfilled his promises some of which are considered illegal. He is trying to control the media. There is violent opposition to him. What is it, six weeks in?

In nearly every sort of examination, Trump is failing terribly. Yet people don't seem to see this and that is one of the principal negative effects of his presidency.

I'm not sure I cam enunciate his failings any more clearly Soso.
 
^I'm curious What 23, do you believe in abortion and planned parenting?


I'm pissed about the Trump admin because he ran on a campaign of 'bringing jobs back and fixing the economy', yet he hasn't signed a single order or pushed for any legislation to affect that change; all he has done is attack identity politics and further hyper-nationalist agendas that serve to alienate our nation from the rest of the world in a very negative way. He wants to increase our nuclear arsenal when we already have enough just in the US alone to destroy every centimeter of the planet and give the Earth a fresh face. His admin has claimed a states rights agenda and yet has done everything it can so far to further federal rights and powers; the fact of the matter is he is a hypocrite of the worst kind and has made our nation the laughing stock of the entire planet.

And where are the damned jobs he said he'd bring back? He's done nothing to fight NAFTA, he's done nothing to help the lower or middle class, he's done all he can to ensure money continues to leave the American majority and enter the 1%'s pockets, how much more proof do you need that this will be THE administration that history books will point to in 50 years time when they say "This is why the world banded together and conquered America so it would fuck off already."
 
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