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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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RedWhiteNTrue said:
Your tap dancing around the question do Mexican immigrants have higher crime rates than European immigrants and Asian immigrants? i guess it's pure fantasy the level of violence in these border towns.
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This depends on geography and socio-economics, really. Corridor towns along the border are much more likely to have higher rates of violence than say, Mexican communities here in Michigan. The violence is a product of black market business, meaning areas that are more influenced by cartel activity are more likely to experience higher rates of crime and violence.

For the safety of American citizens we meed a less porous border to make sure Mexicos killers stay on their side of the Rio Grande. Why is their murder rate so high ? I'm not sure, it's probably Americas fault just like the rest of the worlds woes.
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I'm a pretty young guy, I was born in the 1980s. In those days we weren't very concerned with violence at the Mexican border or scores of Mexicans either fleeing Mexico for the US or crossing the border to conduct violent business. Remember Colombia? Nicaragua? Iran/Contra or Pablo Escobar ring any bells? Miami was the hub of violence and the drug trade in the US, not border towns along Mexico.

As C_D points out, America's involvement is multidimensional. At the state level, we've engaged Mexico economically, leaving rippling effects on the agrarian sector of the Mexican economy. The US also happens to be a huge marketplace for drugs of every flavor just as it has been for many decades. We've created an enormous demand for illegal drugs while at the same time providing Mexican farmers with a lot more free time and financial incentive to meet that demand. The drug war obviously wasn't won when we took down Escobar and dismantled much of the Colombian cartel activity, we simply pushed the business north to Mexico.

You can build a 100ft, electrified steel wall with sentry towers every 50 yards and put a standing army at the border. It's not going to address the root of the problem or stop drug trafficking.

Mexicans here are advocating for free immigration.
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Are they? Or are they advocating amnesty for those who are refugees of a warzone and/or those who are inside the US, making a living and leading productive lives?

They barage Trump for stifling it here yet say little when their own government deports millions of Central Americans. Its a tad hypocritical.
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source?
 
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Bardeaux said:
This depends on geography and socio-economics, really. Corridor towns along the border are much more likely to have higher rates of violence than say, Mexican communities here in Michigan. The violence is a product of black market business, meaning areas that are more influenced by cartel activity are more likely to experience higher rates of crime and violence.
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More tapdancing around the question. Do Mexican immigrants have a higher rate of crime than European immigrants? Yes or no? We are not talking about a town in Michigan with a couple Mexicans butas a whole. Mexico has an astromically jigher crime rate then most Asian and European countries, but I suppose after crossing the border most become choir boys. If its a question of socioeconomics there have been historically many Chinese immigrants that come poorer than the average Mecican yet virtually no crime in their communities. All if thus complex reasoning aside , is that a yes or a no? You traverse around a clear answer like a seasoned politician.

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http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ts-back-to-central-america-than-the-u-s-does/
 
RedWhiteNTrue said:
More tapdancing around the question. Do Mexican immigrants have a higher rate of crime than European immigrants? Yes or no?
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yes.

I thought I made that apparent in my answer, but it appears it may have been too dense of a read. Now why are there higher rates of violence among Mexican immigrants along the border since we're making the decision to not talk about Mexican immigrants elsewhere? It's time for you to stop "tap dancing" now. You ignored my entire post.





http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ts-back-to-central-america-than-the-u-s-does/
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This didn't mention trump or Mexican American stance on Mexican deportation at all?
 
Bardeaux said:
yes.

I thought I made that apparent in my answer, but it appears it may have been too dense of a read. Now why are there higher rates of violence among Mexican immigrants along the border since we're making the decision to not talk about Mexican immigrants elsewhere? It's time for you to stop "tap dancing" now. You ignored my entire post.







This didn't mention trump or Mexican American stance on Mexican deportation at all?
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Like I said their country has an astronomically higher crime rate than ours. They dont become choir boys when they come over the border. You never explicitly saud yes in your answer.

Do I need to cite the sky is blue. Theres been a media circus over trumps comments on deportation and none outspoken against their own countries policy of deporting Central Americans you do the math there.
 
Phil.McKeer said:
Bernie Sanders!
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Bernie Sanders is a coward who let useless obese women (ie a non-threat) take over his event (the black lives matter incident.)

These disqualifies him as president because other leaders will fuck him like the worn out old pussy he is and he'll sign the country away in horrible trade deals and treaties. It should be obvious he simply must not be commander in chief.

On top.of that as nice as free shit is this country cannot afford to support layabouts as luxuriously as he would like to. America will be a thing of the past if he is elected.

The worst is the free college bit. Cut off all federal funding for non-STEM college shit because they're nothing but communist PC white-hatred reeducation camps at this point peddling worthless degrees. Fuck em.
 
Treezy, I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling. Let me try to use language you'd understand: BENGHAZI! BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

I assume you'll be voting for the man-child billionaire with the bitchin' hair-do and obvious personality disorder? You seem to be cut from the same cloth, except for the being rich part.
 
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jammin83 said:
Retarded isn't very PC man. Treezy is schizophrenic give him a break.
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I honestly had no clue. I don't normally engage in personal attacks, but c'mon...did you read what he wrote? It's hard to find words for what that is other than the word I used. But I do apologize if he actually suffers from schizophrenia. Seriously.

Edit: Maybe instead of using the word retarded, next time I'll go with "uncomplicated". Much less inflammatory.
 
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Stick around a little bit man, he loves disassociatives too, which probably leads to some significant life-disruption but makes for some pretty funny posts.
 
The USA would make a great socially progressive state.
Imagine if just a fraction of the trillions of dollars spent on the military were put into education and healthcare.
I can see why the corporate world would find this troubling, but i don't understand why there is so much resistance from the people.
I mean - i "understand" the cultural and historical reasons behind anti-socialist rhetoric; the cold war and so on - but why are the memories of the second world war - fighting rampant imperialism and fascism; and the great depression - so easily overlooked?

Obviously the corporate media's narratives of what america stands for tends to inform a lot of people's outlooks - but, man, the US could have it all, rather than a population divided by fear and wealth disparity.
No presidential candidate can solve a country's woes, but the opposition to Sanders' platform perplexes me; i wish one of Australia's major-party players would have the guts to run that kind of campaign.
 
Well droops, trump alienated the entire Hispanic population, so it will be a tough fight. I doubt the gop would endorse his nomination either, so he would run as an independent and split the vote. I really can't see it happening. I'd be all for cutting military spending, in spite of the boogeyman, and putting some of that money into higher education. Healthcare is a bit trickier, but as it stands even people with insurance can barely afford it and get gouged.
 
Out of curiosity nutty, do you like any of the GOP candidates? I kind of like rand a little, but not super impressed. Don't like too many of the dems either. Looks like we are all fucked in 2016.
 
Not really. I'd vote for Rand based on what little I know. I don't think he'll make it but at this point probably anything is possible. Ron Paul was really the only politician I gave a shit about, and the only time I vowed that I would vote. He of course didn't stand a chance unfortunately. Other than that I just think the whole broken 2 party system is way overdo for an overhaul. Fucking Democrat vs Republican game show.
 
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