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2013 ban on disassociate RC's

farmaz

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I kept reading a few months ago there is a blanket ban coming on all the RC's in this chemical family due to take effect early 2013 in the E.U.

I got a email from a vendor a few months ago when I placed an order for 4MeO PCP saying it was going to be the last batch they have as the ban will be coming into effect in early 2013.

anyone know any more info?..........

thanks in advance
 
Dunno about E.U. wide but in the U.K. at least yup, the Home Office has accepted the ACMD's advice that pretty much all substances in the Arylcyclohexylamine class be banned under the Misuse of Drugs Act as Class B drugs. This is the result of the ACMD investigation into Methoxetamine, currently banned under a Temporary Class Drug Order, and a parallel review of Ketamine and Ketamine analogues looking at whether Ketamine should be regraded from Class C to Class B.

See Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) Methoxetamine Report (2012). Annex 3 gives the wording of what is hoped will be a broad enough catch-all amounting to an analogue law for the Arylcyclohexylamine class, Annex 4 gives examples of the kind of substances that would fall within the Annex 3 definition.

I can't find when this will actually come into law but it's imminent. A matter of weeks I'd guess.
 
farmaz said:
I kept reading a few months ago there is a blanket ban coming on all the RC's in this chemical family due to take effect early 2013 in the E.U.

I got a email from a vendor a few months ago when I placed an order for 4MeO PCP saying it was going to be the last batch they have as the ban will be coming into effect in early 2013.

anyone know any more info?..........

thanks in advance
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what chemical family?

why are you asking for more info? why don't you try find it and post it if you're making wild claims like that. something to back them up is imperative otherwise you're hyping something which is potentially nothing:\

showing us the articles you read a couple months back would be a decent place to start, yeah?
 
pretty much all arylcyclohexylamines are going I think. It's a shame since MXE and 3-MEO-PCP & 3-MEO-PCE were extremely interesting chems.
 
I thought 3-MeO-PCP (and presumably 3-MeO-PCE) had just been banned and backdated to December 1st 2012? In the UK anyway. Not looked into Eurowide bans but wouldn't surprise me. Anything with a whiff of "PCP" about it was always looking on shaky ground. No politician in the world is likely to not make it with the wailings and the gnashings of teef and the unending thinking of the children (please god won't somebody). Am frankly amazed we've had such things available legally for so long, if anything :(

Then again, short of a worldwide ban such Goodies are always gonna be available with effort. Can't see every country being arsed to pass a ban for a group of chems the vast majority of folk have never heard of, will never hear of and won't notice on way or t'other if they ever existed or not. Costs time and money to write legislation. Outside of the EU I can't really see anyone giving enough of a toss for the idea of banning 'em ever be so much a blip under the radar.

*crosses fingers and fumbs*
 
Shambles said:
I thought 3-MeO-PCP (and presumably 3-MeO-PCE) had just been banned and backdated to December 1st 2012? In the UK anyway.
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What makes you think this? The initial ACMD recommendations to ban these arylcyclohexylamines were released on 18th October 2012.

Then on 1st November 2012, the Home Office issued a press release saying they were going to follow the recommendations and ban the substances:

Following advice from the government's independent drug experts, the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), new synthetic cannabinoids (such as those sold under the name 'Black Mamba') and methoxetamine (sold as Mexxy) and its related compounds will be classified under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971.
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But as far as I can tell, nothing has actually happened since then. The changes suggested by the ACMD do not appear in schedule 2 of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 on legislation.gov.uk. But then there is the usual irritating disclaimer that "there are outstanding changes not yet made by the legislation.gov.uk editorial team", so this isn't conclusive.

The ACMD report also suggested that the Misuse of Drugs Regulations 2001 should be amended. This would be done through a Statutory Instrument. But as far as I can tell, the most recent amendment to the 2001 Regulations is from March 2012. You can actually go through the list of all SIs issued in date order, which I did for for the first 10 pages and couldn't see anything relating to drugs, but that only took me as far back as halfway through December 2012. But Google finds nothing more recent when searching for "misuse of drugs regulations".

So this is not completely conclusive - proving the absence of legislation is difficult! But I'm pretty sure that MXE is not yet illegal to possess, and x-meo-pcp, NeNK etc. are still not illegal to possess, manufacture or sell. Not that that actually matters, given that no UK-based vendor seems to be stocking any of them anymore...
 
StretchOutAndWait said:
The changes suggested by the ACMD do not appear in schedule 2 of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 on legislation.gov.uk. But then there is the usual irritating disclaimer that "there are outstanding changes not yet made by the legislation.gov.uk editorial team", so this isn't conclusive.
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You could go through the outstanding changes if you have an hour to spare and want to build up the muscles in your clicking finger, and we'd all love you for it.
 
It's not illegal for animals to buy ANY sort of chemical, so open a bank account on behalf of your squirrel (through power of attorney) and order drugs from his/her account.

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tentram said:
what chemical family?

why are you asking for more info? why don't you try find it and post it if you're making wild claims like that. something to back them up is imperative otherwise you're hyping something which is potentially nothing:\

showing us the articles you read a couple months back would be a decent place to start, yeah?
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Aren't you a charming person? You should pop along to EADD, I need some more cunts to hurl abuse at.
 
Thankfully, substances like Methoxetamine and even Methylone are still easily bought from European vendors who really don't give a shit whether a substance is illegal or not. And since our borders are pretty much unmanned at the moment, every order seems to come through customs with incredible ease.

Up yours government :) <3
 
Xamkou said:
Thankfully, substances like Methoxetamine and even Methylone are still easily bought from European vendors who really don't give a shit whether a substance is illegal or not. And since our borders are pretty much unmanned at the moment, every order seems to come through customs with incredible ease.
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Not every order.
 
most*

Whereas many vendors have stopped shipping to Australia and New Zealand as nothing seems to be passing customs. It says a lot about the current state of our borders
 
Someone (Transform?) posted a linky to a PDF of the changes to the Misuse of Drugs Act a day or so back. Not sure what thread it was in though. But MXE and it's analogues were included alongside synthetic cannabinoids.
 
Treacle said:
Aren't you a charming person? You should pop along to EADD, I need some more cunts to hurl abuse at.
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i'll be sure to sugarcoat it with all emoticons next time, for you. i don't see what's wrong with asking simple, relative questions especially when there's no substantiated evidence in the OP.

it was posted in BDD originally, international board, where it got moved to the appropriate regional forum where it's relative.
 
Look tentram I got a email from a very big vendor saying they would no longer be stocking any 3/4 MeO PCP due to a ban coming in to Europe starting early 2013.
They now have a countdown on stock too on their site, I had also seen several posts about a ban coming in on EADD & PD.

I would change your attitude tbh, it stinks like Lutefisk.

Have a nice day
 
tentram said:
i'll be sure to sugarcoat it with all emoticons next time, for you. i don't see what's wrong with asking simple, relative questions especially when there's no substantiated evidence in the OP.

it was posted in BDD originally, international board, where it got moved to the appropriate regional forum where it's relative.
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relevant, my friend, relevant.
 
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