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2009 MLB thread! play ball...

10,000? Thats a little much, since the NL west sucks cock for the most part. I say add 1,000 posts max, or maybe a custom "#1 Dodger Fan" tag. ;)



I will settle for 1000 or the custom #1 dodger fan.

and when i use the word OCTOBER. im using in the way its ment to be used.

POST SEASON. dont get smart wif meh white boy
 
I should have banned you last year when the Dodgers beat the Cubs. ;)
 
^I miss DeRosa and Kerry Wood. :(

In other news:

From the Los Angeles Times
DODGERS
Manny Ramirez will be suspended 50 games for positive drug test
The suspension, which is expected to begin with tonight's game, makes him the biggest star penalized under baseball's testing program that started in 2003.
By Bill Shaikin and Dylan Hernandez Times Staff Writers

May 8, 2009

Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and will be suspended 50 games starting today, The Times has learned.

The test result and suspension is expected to be announced later today.

The suspension will cost Ramirez $7.7 million, or roughly 31% of his $25-million salary. Players in violation of baseball's drug policy are not paid during suspensions.

Ramirez is expected to attribute the test results to medication received from a doctor for a personal medical issue, according to a source familiar with matter but not authorized to speak publicly.

The Dodgers informed triple-A outfielder Xavier Paul this morning that he was being promoted to Los Angeles.

With the suspension taking effect with tonight's game against the Washington Nationals at Dodger Stadium, Ramirez will not be eligible to return to the team until July 3.

Ramirez would become the biggest star suspended under an oft-criticized major league testing program that started in 2003. He had been a model citizen since arriving in Los Angeles last August, following a stormy tenure with the Boston Red Sox.

This is the second drug scandal to rock baseball within four months. In a year in which baseball officials hoped their greatest concern would be the slumping economy, the two highest-paid players in the game have been revealed to have failed a drug test.

Alex Rodriguez, the game's highest-paid player, acknowledged during a February news conference that he used steroids from 2001 to 2003. The admission followed a Sports Illustrated report that he failed a drug test in 2003, when players were not subject to suspension.

Ramirez did not appear in the clubhouse after the Dodgers' 10-3 victory over the Washington Nationals Wednesday night. After the game, Dodgers General Manager Ned Colletti and Manager Joe Torre said they were unaware of any failed test or pending suspension.

As unconfirmed reports circulated around Dodger Stadium on Wednesday night, Scott Boras, the agent for Ramirez, declined to comment.

Major League Baseball spokesman Pat Courtney said he could not comment, citing the limitations stipulated in baseball's drug policy.

Rob Manfred, baseball's top labor lawyer, and Michael Weiner, general counsel for the players' union, did not return multiple messages.

The loss of Ramirez would leave a gaping hole in the Dodgers' lineup. Juan Pierre, the likely replacement for Ramirez in left field, has batted ninth in two of his five starts this season.

Ramirez doubled and drove in two runs on Wednesday, as the Dodgers set a major league record with their 13th consecutive home victory at the start of the season. The Dodgers have the best record in the major leagues, at 21-8, and the biggest division lead in the majors, at 6 1/2 games in the National League West.

Ramirez leads the Dodgers in batting average (.348 ), on-base percentage (.492) and slugging percentage (.641), and he is tied for the team lead in home runs with six.

He signed a two-year, $45-million contract with the Dodgers in March, with the first year guaranteed at $25 million and the second year at his option at $20 million.

In an appearance at USC last month, Jose Canseco said Ramirez's name "is most likely, 90%" on a list of 104 players that failed a drug test in 2003. The players were promised anonymity for taking tests in 2003; Rodriguez is the only player that has been identified among that group.

Ramirez laughed when Times columnist Kurt Streeter relayed Canseco's allegation to him.

"I got no comment, nothing to say about that," Ramirez told Streeter. "What can I say? I don't even know the guy."

Source.

WAY TO GO MANNY! I think there is a Nelson Muntz quote in there somewhere...Still want to make that bet, EnYAY? ;)
 
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

God dammit this is not what i wanted to wake up to today. Im not shocked about Manny using PED, im just angered about his suspension. Anyone who is surprised about a players use of drugs hasnt been a fan of baseball long enough. Everyone is using them.


MY BET IS STILL ON, DODGERS IN THE POST SEASON

He will be back, and the dodgers are STILL strong without him, hell Orlando Hudson is strong enough to help us.


but fuck man, this is do sad. Its MANYY! ugghh. this i a sad day.

brb tears.
 
^ man... the days before i ever knew what he would truly amount to!

i hope hope hope it's not true, but now that it's been thrown out there who knows... who will EVER actually know? fuck it.

but EnYAY... don't say EVERYONE does it. grady doesn't. dude's puuuure.
 
Your correct EVERYONE is an incorrect statement.

I would say about 80% of the players in the league have at ONE POINT in there career use PED.

woohoo, move on.
 
AND FUCK BOSTON

If is wasn't for Manny, you beaners would still be bitching about THE CURSE THE CURSE OMG THE CURSE!
 
so you think manny's the reason the sox won the series, but you think the dodgers are strong enough without him? i can promise you the sox had a better team then than the dodgers do now. given it's a 50 game suspension and he'll be back around the all-star break all the dodgers have to do is stay in the race. good thing for them they ARE in such a bad division or that ship would be sunk.

though they say, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts.
 
so you think manny's the reason the sox won the series, but you think the dodgers are strong enough without him? i can promise you the sox had a better team then than the dodgers do now. given it's a 50 game suspension and he'll be back around the all-star break all the dodgers have to do is stay in the race. good thing for them they ARE in such a bad division or that ship would be sunk.

though they say, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts.


:) point taken.

uggh man. Im a huge dodger / manny fan. Right when LA thinks we have a clear chance. this happens. it honestly has made me VERy sad, moreso then i thought it would.

One thing i can say is this DOES NOT ONE BIT change the way i view Manny or baseball. I love him and the game.

As a matter of fact, I went home today (through HELLISH LA traffic) just to get my manny ramirez shirt and wear it.

LA STILL LOVES MANNY! 50 games and counting.
 
i'm not gonna lie, i don't think it's gonna change my opinion of him either. i still like manny as the fun loving ball player that he is. as i've said many times before this (barry bonds, a-rod, gary matthews jr., etc.)... until i know all the facts, i'm not going to assume the worst. all i keep hearing is that his doctor told him to take the drugs (which for anyone who hasn't paid attention was a womens' fertility drug... i know NOTHING of why that would be). maybe i missed something while i was at work all day, but i don't know why he was told to take a fertility drug and i don't know what it's purpose for a male would be.

now, on the other hand, should he try to play us all like idiots like a-rod did, then i may take a different stance. for now though, based ONLY on what i, personally, know... a 50 game suspension seems a bit harsh. i'm hoping (because i like him too) that he's straight up with the fans and that it's not as bad as they're making it out to be. they're headhunting and the slightest speculation means they've got to break the story first. they ruin reputations a bit prematurely.
 
i'm not gonna lie, i don't think it's gonna change my opinion of him either. i still like manny as the fun loving ball player that he is. as i've said many times before this (barry bonds, a-rod, gary matthews jr., etc.)... until i know all the facts, i'm not going to assume the worst. all i keep hearing is that his doctor told him to take the drugs (which for anyone who hasn't paid attention was a womens' fertility drug... i know NOTHING of why that would be). maybe i missed something while i was at work all day, but i don't know why he was told to take a fertility drug and i don't know what it's purpose for a male would be.

When you come off a roid cycle you take it to get your testosterone back on track. So being a male it sends off red flags!

Oh and Captain Caveman helped Boston win the World Series too!
 
If MLB actually gave a shit whether or not players cheated by taking Steroids, HGH, whatever else, after it comes out that Manny Ramirez was taking steroids in 2004 and 2007, they should make Boston forfeit their World Series Titles. Explain to me how it would be right for Boston to keep those rings if it's proven that they cheated to win them.

If an olympic runner is found to be cheating, they take away any medals they won. MLB should follow their example and punish teams who CHEAT TO WIN! There's really no arguing that this would be fair. But that won;t happen, because MLB doesn't really give a fuck whether players cheat.
Anyone else find it funny that it seems like in the last fe yrs, with the exception of Bonds in SF, it's always Yankees and Red Sox players that get found to be cheaters (Giambi, Rodriguez, Ramirez). I know Ramirez is a Dodger now, but he was a Sox player when they "won" world series in 2004 and 2007.

If MLB doesn't make Boston forfeit those two WS's than it proves they don;t really care.
 
^How about all those WS A-Rod helped the Yanks win? Gonna revoke those too?

Does one player win it for a team? Is the team cheating to win or is the player cheating? 8)
 
Yep take away all World Series Titles that a team won by cheating by allowing one of their players to juice up.

While I agree that one player doesn't win it for a team you can argue that one player helps a team get there. Would Boston have one WS's if Ramirez wasn't hitting massive HR's, thanks to the juice? I don't think they would.

If MLB doesn't do something like I offered then the only real lesson anyone learns is that "Cheaters can and often do win". So Manny's punishment is he gets to take a couple months off. He also loses 7 million, which to him is like pocket change. Yeah, what a punishment. He'll come back in 2 months all nice and rested up. Yeah what a punishment. Give me a fucking break. What a joke!

I don't understand what is so hard to understand about my proposal. If we find out players on your team are CHEATING, we will take away any championships you win while they were contributing to your team. MLB should punish teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, maybe it will make them use better judgement and not sign guys who are known dopers.

But MLB won't because it's the Red Sox and Yankees. Heaven forbid punishing them.
 
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