DOB
Bluelighter
3 weeks of 20mg/day d-bol is going to do FUCK ALL.
whats fuck at all? not Test E 500mg/week for 12months kind of gains? no gains at all??
i believe it will give me 1-4 pounds of lean muscle after pct and loss of water retention
3 weeks of 20mg/day d-bol is going to do FUCK ALL.
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hey,i am kinda toying with this idea going on some cycle this year,i cant inject anything becose i am living with my family.
i know its bad for liver but if i do 20mg,a low dose,for 3 weeks,a short time,I think i should be ok,right?
this dude Clint Darden says it raise cortisol significantly at week 4
i dont wanna end up like this 21 year bald buff motherfuker at gym,at that dose what chance is for hair loss?
dont tell me run it with test,becose i cant inject anything and i dont want get shutdown completly for three months.
if i run it for only three weaks my natty test should jump back fast i hope
i also have upper back atrophy and recently fucked up right knee + damaged spine disk... i was kinda hoping it would help with these problems
Ok, 20mg a day? 140mg total AS per week for 3 weeks? That's not much more than your body would be producing naturally. It's not even worth it. That's about like taking a testosterone replacement dose for 3 weeks.
not much more but thing is 20mg dbol shut down natty test only 40% in study made... not much more = lets say 120%+60% = gains
this is true though to be honest getting up every day, to beat your self up lifting heavy shit isn't exactly sane. Come to think of it neither is jabbing your self with sharp objects filled with magic liquid to lift heavier shit lol
No its not going to equal the gains you thinking. The gains, your thinking are only going to be gotten by some one that has been training for 10+ years, and has their diet and training dialed in. As in they know how to eat to trigger nutrient floods to the muscles, the proper timing of protein vs carbs, the amount of and type of each. And on top of that they are training like a beast, regularly and hard, they know how to train individual muscles, and whole groups. Then yeah he may get the types of gains your talking about, because your making blind ass guesses at being shut down Dbol will do it ans fast, and with not much of the compound. Now you have to also know how to control your diet and training during PCT cause its gonna have to train to adjust for the physiological differences. Now here the bitch, once the pct is over you think your gonna keep that 4 pounds fro good? Hell no if you could not train to put on a lousy 4lbs before you sure as shit can't train and eat to keep them now, so what you keep them fro a few weeks they they drop off. Now what do it again? Bollocks
Look people AAS will not give you permanent gains unless you know how to eat and train after you have made them! This shit is not a magic bullet for people that want to have muscle but have no fucking clue how to train and eat. You can make very respectable gains training naturally young, if your shit is done proper. AAS are fro people that are training not as a bloody hobby but as basically a second job, we are aiming to become either Physique competitors, Strength Athletes, Combat Sports, or training for a specific sport, or Job that requires a constant peak physical conditioning. Thats not saying Joe Everybody cant run a cycle to look good and polish up his years of training. It does mean that if you really want to take this route you have to be prepared fro the realities of AAS, and cant just take some pills, drink a shake and trucking train once a week.
Dianabol is a solid steroid for producing tissue growth, while yeah it will out some water weight on you it can be largely managed via proper diet and ancillary compounds. But this short cycle with low doses is not really going to do any thing if at all but bloat you out and shut you down. 3 weeks is nothing especially when your your just beginning, its a different ball game when your a top level athlete and your puttign the afterburners on for a given event. But it comes down to a few basic points when you are first starting out with AAS:
1: AAS are not magic they are just another tool in the box when it comes to training.
2: Diet and training are by far more important when you are first beginning then AAS
3: When you get to a point where AAS is an option ( a few years of natural training with a solid understanding of your body your diet and the compounds you are about to use)
Once you have meant these 3 points you can sit down and read the Your first cycle, nut up and buy some injectable Test.
As for the early days of athletes that were making gains with small doses, its entirely possible, especially when you are looking at the athletes they were talking about: top tier athletes that have a vast understand of how their body works, and how to push it to get every little drop out of it. So its plausible.
As for the rest No one on the site uses SWIM, so don't bother. In fact we are fairly open here on the SD forum in particular, so just read a bit and you will see what I am talking about.The flu your referring to is generally known as test flu. Not every one gets it an din fact the better your gear the least likely you are to get it. The progression your talking about is the general for cats over 25 that get into AAS, the simile you made is apt and one I have used a fair amount of times as well. The fact being you can ice the cake all you want if its shit under neath your just icing a shit cake.
Test-Flu:
Flu and cough like symptoms are often anaphylactic reactions to co-solvents. It doesn't have anything to do with AAS or esters. Its more likely to occur with shorter esters, because more often a larger dose of co-solvent is used to get enough of the shorter ester to remain in solution......
Well I can tell you that with many different brands and many different steroids I've had the same fatigue and so has nearly everybody else that I've spoken to about the matter. We can split hairs about what's causing it but there's more going on that just benzyl alcohol causing fatigue.
The whole "it's just BA" thing and the "dirty gear" explanations are largely broscience.