theotherside
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^^I would like to second this question. I just had my first 2 experiences with 4-fa and was wondering if 2-fa A)burns as bad when snorted B) is as good as 4-fa in the euphoria department C)is worth getting over 4-fa?
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2-FluoroAmphetamine (2-FA) - Experienced - A summary
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egor
Bluelighter
Are you considering taking 4-methylamphetamine? I'd stay the hell away from any amphetamine with solely an alkyl substitution at the 4 position.
@egor: 4-MMA is 4-Methylmethamphetamine. I wrote first 4-Methylamphetamine.
I read some reviews about 4-MMA and 4-FMA. Some users found it nice the other found it not so nice with many sideeffect. If search for reviews about 4-FA the most are positive.
About 4-FMA , 4-MMA, 2-FA and 3-FA I found not many reviews so for me is interesting if someone had with that chemicals some experience.
I read some reviews about 4-MMA and 4-FMA. Some users found it nice the other found it not so nice with many sideeffect. If search for reviews about 4-FA the most are positive.
About 4-FMA , 4-MMA, 2-FA and 3-FA I found not many reviews so for me is interesting if someone had with that chemicals some experience.
egor
Bluelighter
Thanks for the clarification. So 4-mma is mephedrone minus the ketone. I'd still stay away given the less than stellar safety record of similar compounds.
specialspack
Bluelighter
4-FA made me pretty horny, as does methamphetamine, and MDMA... I've not often found serotonogic activity to interfere with that.
phatass
Bluelighter
i really enjoyed 2-FA... got through about 700mg of it over 48 hours and was wired, stimulated, and euphoric... a lot better than 4-FA... quite similar to 4-FMP
4-FA and 4-FMP are the same drug...
sekio
Bluelight Crew
4-methylamphetamine is close enough to 4-chloroamphetamine (and other 4-substituted releasing agents) that I wouldn't touch the stuff.
heavywater
Greenlighter
Just tried this compound for the first time. Very impressed so far.
Over the past few years, I have tried most of the RC stims that were available (4-MMC, Methylone, MDPV, Desoxypipradrol, 4-FMC, 3-FMC, Buphedrone, 4-FA) and never found one that was conducive to studying or mental work, as they were either too euphoric or too jittery to actually focus on anything. I am a big fan of regular amphetamine (adderall) as a tool to enhance creativity / writing and was always on the hunt for something that approximated its balance of lucidity, euphoria, and motivation.
2-FA is probably the closest I have found so far, at least based on my limited testing.
The compound itself is white, chunky, crystalline, extremely hydrophilic, and extremely stinky. The smell reminds me of AMT, but more caustic. Can easily smell it through the bag. This was slightly worrying at first, but I got over it and decided to plug 40 mg.
Dissolved easily in water, applied easily without pain. Onset in approximately 1 minute. Flushing, stomach clenching, followed a few minutes later by a moderately euphoric physical rush. Strong enough at points that I had to close my eyes and let it wash over me. The rush gradually subsides by about 10 minutes in and settles into a calm, but extremely lucid and motivated stimulation. Over the past few hours I have worked on and finished 5 job applications in a row, when most days I can barely bring myself to start the process at all.
My thoughts feel clear and pronounced, and words flow easily. Increased enthusiasm and confidence in what I am doing. Decreased peripheral thoughts in a manner similar to Adderall (i.e cognitive "tunnel vision") - the only thing that seems to matter is the thing I am working on during that moment and I am not easily distracted.
As far as euphoria, I agree with other posters that 2-FA isn't nearly as euphoric as 4-FA, mephedrone, or even straight amphetamine. I feel good, and thinking / work is very satisfying, but I am not feeling amazing. Perhaps that is a good thing, as I will be less tempted to use for recreational purposes.
Certainly an excellent functional stimulant. Would love to hear more people's experiences with it, as there seems to be a lack of information and discussion about 2-FA on bluelight. Anyone else tried it?
Over the past few years, I have tried most of the RC stims that were available (4-MMC, Methylone, MDPV, Desoxypipradrol, 4-FMC, 3-FMC, Buphedrone, 4-FA) and never found one that was conducive to studying or mental work, as they were either too euphoric or too jittery to actually focus on anything. I am a big fan of regular amphetamine (adderall) as a tool to enhance creativity / writing and was always on the hunt for something that approximated its balance of lucidity, euphoria, and motivation.
2-FA is probably the closest I have found so far, at least based on my limited testing.
The compound itself is white, chunky, crystalline, extremely hydrophilic, and extremely stinky. The smell reminds me of AMT, but more caustic. Can easily smell it through the bag. This was slightly worrying at first, but I got over it and decided to plug 40 mg.
Dissolved easily in water, applied easily without pain. Onset in approximately 1 minute. Flushing, stomach clenching, followed a few minutes later by a moderately euphoric physical rush. Strong enough at points that I had to close my eyes and let it wash over me. The rush gradually subsides by about 10 minutes in and settles into a calm, but extremely lucid and motivated stimulation. Over the past few hours I have worked on and finished 5 job applications in a row, when most days I can barely bring myself to start the process at all.
My thoughts feel clear and pronounced, and words flow easily. Increased enthusiasm and confidence in what I am doing. Decreased peripheral thoughts in a manner similar to Adderall (i.e cognitive "tunnel vision") - the only thing that seems to matter is the thing I am working on during that moment and I am not easily distracted.
As far as euphoria, I agree with other posters that 2-FA isn't nearly as euphoric as 4-FA, mephedrone, or even straight amphetamine. I feel good, and thinking / work is very satisfying, but I am not feeling amazing. Perhaps that is a good thing, as I will be less tempted to use for recreational purposes.
Certainly an excellent functional stimulant. Would love to hear more people's experiences with it, as there seems to be a lack of information and discussion about 2-FA on bluelight. Anyone else tried it?
I did my research today with 50mg chuted. Took the 2-FA at 5:30 in the morning after a night without real sleep, but with rest.
I'm male, 145 lbs, 6'4". Fairly experienced but not overly fond of stims.
Throughout the shift i felt clearheaded, present, with an occasional tingling rush, but without jitters and this sense of urgency i dislike in stims.
Normally i'd take a nap after work but for the remainder of today i've not felt tired at all.
I did test to see if falling asleep would be a problem but watching a t.v. show from bed i soon noticed that that would'nt be a problem.
Also, 2-FA is a very efficient appetite surpressant. I can stand to lose the odd pound and i'm wondering if smaller doses, say 10/15 mg, would aid in weightloss.
I'm just not sure about long term use-toxicity.
All in all though, i'm impressed with 2-FA.
I'm male, 145 lbs, 6'4". Fairly experienced but not overly fond of stims.
Throughout the shift i felt clearheaded, present, with an occasional tingling rush, but without jitters and this sense of urgency i dislike in stims.
Normally i'd take a nap after work but for the remainder of today i've not felt tired at all.
I did test to see if falling asleep would be a problem but watching a t.v. show from bed i soon noticed that that would'nt be a problem.
Also, 2-FA is a very efficient appetite surpressant. I can stand to lose the odd pound and i'm wondering if smaller doses, say 10/15 mg, would aid in weightloss.
I'm just not sure about long term use-toxicity.
All in all though, i'm impressed with 2-FA.
PhyllipThylamine
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I find these two compounds quite distinct, so I beg to differ with the above quote...
Finally tracked a little 2-fa down. Tested 5mg up the snorter, ouch yup, similar to 4-fa, it burns. Going easy on a couple small 10mg bombs through the day & will offer my opinion after a day of hard work.
Twigs
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4-FA stands for 4-fluoroamphetamine and 4-FMP stands for 4-fluoro-alphamethylphenetylamine and they are in fact just two names for the same chemical. (Amphetamine comes from alphamethylphenetylamine)
I think you are confusing 4-fmp with 4-fma (4-fluoro-methamphetamine)
PhyllipThylamine
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That's exactly what I'm doing, you are absolutely right, please ignore me, its cool, I'm clearly duh 
No experiments today after all, decided head un-straight, another day
No experiments today after all, decided head un-straight, another day
rockstar 69
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I like the sound of 2-FA being sniffable and more amphetamine like than 4-FA is, which I find to be much more like MDMA than speed. It doesn't sound too euphoric though and straight up stims working mainly on dopamine don't intrest me much anymore.
What about 2-FMA or 4-FMA, anyone used these? I have a reliable source for both at reasonable prices I'm thinking both surely have potential to be interesting stimulants. Do we think 2-FMA would be similar to 2-FA in that it is more a functional type stim than blow the head off euphoria, yet the 2-FMA would surely be more euphoric and very likely more recreational?
Also what about 4-FMA? I prefer 4-FA to even the best racemic amphet because it is more euphoric and less sketchy. That said meth is way more euphoric than normal amp, as is 4-FA. Surely 4-FMA must be fairly intense euphoria when dosed right?
Sorry to derail the thread but I've been googling and found very little on either 2-FMA or 4-FMA, keen to hear anyones experiance with either of these chemicals.
What about 2-FMA or 4-FMA, anyone used these? I have a reliable source for both at reasonable prices I'm thinking both surely have potential to be interesting stimulants. Do we think 2-FMA would be similar to 2-FA in that it is more a functional type stim than blow the head off euphoria, yet the 2-FMA would surely be more euphoric and very likely more recreational?
Also what about 4-FMA? I prefer 4-FA to even the best racemic amphet because it is more euphoric and less sketchy. That said meth is way more euphoric than normal amp, as is 4-FA. Surely 4-FMA must be fairly intense euphoria when dosed right?
Sorry to derail the thread but I've been googling and found very little on either 2-FMA or 4-FMA, keen to hear anyones experiance with either of these chemicals.
I rather like 4-FA and have done it various time with no bad side effects or anything.
Tempted to give 2-FA a shot. Are doses generally smaller? Anyone experienced the kind of really strong, rushy body euphoria that 4-FA can produce? It gets me absolutely battered that stuff, at the right dose, but in a much more functional way than MDMA. Really like it.
Is 2-FA more like classic amphetamine then? I really like that too...
Tempted to give 2-FA a shot. Are doses generally smaller? Anyone experienced the kind of really strong, rushy body euphoria that 4-FA can produce? It gets me absolutely battered that stuff, at the right dose, but in a much more functional way than MDMA. Really like it.
Is 2-FA more like classic amphetamine then? I really like that too...
General alcazar
Bluelighter
2fa was a big disappointment for me. Strictly a functional stimulant, even when up to 100 mg was IVed. Does not have any kind of rush (note this was attempted with 2 different samples). The only good thing about it is that it lasts about 1/2 as long as 4FA and is less prone to dilating one's pupils. None of that MDMA like euphoria though. Not very useful for someone looking for a good buzz and there are better, and likely less potentially toxic stimulants out there.
Grondelduck
Bluelighter
I usually take around 30mg to 40mg for studying purposes. And boy is it effective. With the average duration you shouldn't have too much trouble with eating. But I have been using it on a daily basis now. increased sociability, I'm motivated to do my tasks, and there is simply no comedown. My add is quite a hindrance for me in daily life. I'm never really motivated to undertake stuff, and even though I'm blessed with a good amount of intelligence studying simply doesn't go as well as it could. I'm prescribed dex but I dislike it's long duration and I don't respond well to methylphenidate. Since discovering 2-FA I haven't touched any other amps anymore. Hell, I prefer this over the purest racemic speed. No excessive bodyload, it feels a lot cleaner, and I have zero compulsion to binge on it, and no matter the amount of redoses, I never feel overstimulated or paranoid.
I wish I had the money to purchase a lifetime supply because for me, this is as good as it comes. I know it's still unreseardched and such, but this chem has improved the quality of my everyday life by leaps.
If you don't suffer from something like add or adhd I can understand that it might not seem like much to you, but having such peace of mind, being able to function normally takes away so much stress that it makes me happy, simply due to the contrast of this state of being 'normal' compared to my chaotic mindset.
Some discomfort!- I remember seeing a friend snort 4-FA then clutch his face in agony for 5 minutes!
Don't suppose there's any horniness? 4-FA has too much serotonogic activity to produce any; 2-FA any better?
4FA makes you horny as hell, what the hell are you talking about?