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2-aminoindan "a dud"

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got my shipment today (8am). Insuff-ed a bunch. (??mg, i don't have a scale.) i would guess somewhere between 5-10 mg. the stuff aint that bad to snort. the only bad thing that i have to mention is that it is extremely dry and irritates your nasal passage at first, but goes away in about 30 seconds. anyways, i probably dosed about 10 minutes ago. i don't really notice anything. what a flop, im pretty disappointed. i will surely be experimenting over the weekend with a few people and i'll post again with some more input.- by the way, do any chemistry-heads know if this compound can be easily converted into a more effective substance? i keep reading how 2-aminoindan is structuraly similar to an extremely potent stimulant with the exception of a few chemical bonds and stuff. im not a chemist, i wish i knew more, so any help would be appreciated. peace gettin a drip now. tastes a little weird, not bad at all.
 
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You have used Adderall so you might have developed a cross tolerans to 2-AI ("i can take 5 adderalls and go right to sleep").

By using 2-AI as a precursor should be one of the easiest way to make the "basic" amphetamine. You need a catalyzer to cut the other substituent of the benzene ring. I don't know which is the right catalyzer and other settings. For a chemist that shouldn't be too difficult to find out but I'm not a chemist tho I can do use libraries and Internet.
 
2-ai

yes at 1 point i was able to take 5 adderalls and fall asleep, but that was 2 years ago. im glad to see you keeping up with my posts. i am not dismissing the fact that i may have built up a tolerance to a certain type of stimuli, however i would just like to point out the fact that many other substances still have their same effect on me. i doubt that i have built up a tolerance to 2-ai. also, i have my serious doubts about the recreational use of this drug becoming popular wheras it dosen't really do anything. by the way, on my second dose - i insuffilated approx 20mg. the stuff was so dry, i felt like i had a rock in my brain for a minute or so. after that, the drip was pretty nasty. i did feel slightly strange, but nothing major. maybe a little light-headed and a bit dizzy. i noticed that when i was about to sneeze, as i took a dep breath, i was having trouble breathing. im not sure if this was from the 2-ai or perhaps any impurities in it. al in all, i feel like this stuff definately isn't worth it. so far.......
 
I wonder if smoking a 2-AI freebase would be possible. Or if it would be a bad idea.
 
2-ai

after a whole weekend of testing this stuff out, i have come to the conclusion that 2-aminoindan is in fact "a dud". it has no psychoactive properties at all. it does effect you very very slightly, and feels similar to drinking a couple cans of pepsi. (and that's after snorting 100+mg!!!!) seriously, a cup of coffee would have more of an effect on your body. however, after ingesting about 50mg and snorting 100+mg, you get an extreme over-caffeinated feeling; such as anxiety, cold sweats, trouble eating/sleeping, increased heart rate, and all together, these make for an overall terrible feeling. anyways, i will be bringing my experimentation with 2-aminoindan to an end for now, (i still dont know what i am gonna do with the rest of this shit!) because as far as recreational purposes go, this stuff is useless.
 
kjb1891 said:
I wonder if smoking a 2-AI freebase would be possible. Or if it would be a bad idea.
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From the erowid link:
One material safety data sheet reportedly states that 2-Aminoindan releases dangerous fumes when burned. This suggests not smoking it though little is known about this reaction.
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I probably wouldn't smoke it...
 
(First Impressions)
Orally, is not cost effective for me 500+mg, intranasally, burns like no other subsance on this planet (worse than a 2c) never tried smoking freebase or plugging, i.m. seems perfect for me at around 100mg(nice relaxed, happy feeling, no real euphoria.)
 
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I tried orally, without much effect, nasally, burns like a bitch, some stimulation.

Rectally, is another matter, I tried at 100mg, and it seems (unlike erowid's claim) to be very long acting, there are trip reports up there, but you have to use the search function to get to them, they aren't linked to a main experience vault.

LOOOOOONG acting, very rough comedown, and very resistant to benzos, I found it very, very hard to put myself out after around 2 days of stimulation/coming down from this one.
 
What about mixing with MDMA? Anyone tried that or would it be potentially dangerous ?
 
I really wouldn't, the comedown from 2-aminoindan is monstrous, on one of my first experiments with it, 50mg nitrazepam and 50mg promethazine, barely made a dent in the comedown.

I'm not sure of its affinities for 5HT, and I'm nodding and tired, so at best I'l do some digging later, and see what I can find.
 
What about 2-AI analogs? has anybody tried 3,4-methylenedioxy or 2,5-dimethoxy-4-halo substitutes (on the ring of course)?

Limpet_Chicken said:
I'm not sure of its affinities for 5HT, and I'm nodding and tired, so at best I'l do some digging later, and see what I can find.
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Probably worthless on its own, it needs some ring substitution. (amphetamine = alpha-methyl PEA, 2-AI = alpha,2-methylene-PEA, there is probably a similarity in affinities between 2-AI and Amp.
 
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What about 2-AI analogs? has anybody tried 3,4-methylenedioxy or 2,5-dimethoxy-4-halo substitutes (on the ring of course)?
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You have to shufty the numbers around a bit as the numbering system for aminoindans is different to those for phenethylamines. As such the aminoindan equivalent to MDA is 5,6-methylenedioxy-2-aminoindan (it's almost entirely serotonogic in action - next to no dopaminergic activity. As such, it's more like the methylenedioxy substituted alpha-ethylphenethylamines than MDA/MDMA)
 
DO NOT INSUFLATE 2-aminoindan! it burns like no other, I, however enjoy it imensly i.m. at around 200-250mg, this method of administration gives me a clean clearheaded stimulation lasting 8-12h with a smooth dropoff. Not much unlike MDPV really, no real euphoria to speak of. A good stimulant when taken in this manner imo anyway.
 
Anyone want to take a guess (those with built-in QSARs) as to what kind of activity 4,7-dimethoxy-5-methylindan-2-amine (this is the 'AI analogue' of 2C-D/DOM) would have? I thought I had a paper that had information about that...but I am locked out of my computer. BTW, anyone want to help? I put a password on XP and forgot it. :(
 
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morninggloryseed said:
Anyone want to take a guess (those with built-in QSARs) as to what kind of activity 4,7-dimethoxy-5-methylindan-2-amine (this is the 'AI analogue' of 2C-D/DOM) would have?
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I'd be interested in seeing that too. (The paper I mean, I deleted that part of the quote).
 
A friend and I have in the past intravenously injected 2-Aminoindan at doses in the range of 50-500mg, in upwards of several grams in a day. The rush which was characterized by waves of warmth and tingling was particularly interesting and enjoyable. There was a strong compulsion to do more after the initial rush and short duration (2-10 minutes) of intense euphoria began to dissipate. IV use of 2-Aminoindan tended to cause an "alert sedation" effect not unlike some tryptamines and phenethylamines as opposed to a purely stimulatory effect. Combining 2-Aminoindan with Alprazolam one weekend was strange and I actually forget an entire day which I still swear never really happened (time travel? :-)). Also, combining 2-Aminoindan with 10mg 5-MeO-MiPT was very interesting and euphoric and produced an extremely strong body high which made me feel as if I were surrounded by a field of static electricity.

Several times both oral and IV use of Aminoindan caused severe nausea, vomiting, vertigo, and weakness which lasted 24-40 hours (same dose range as above). It actually felt very much like the flu. This never happened to my friend, and I have never read of it happening to anyone else. Also, several missed injections (missed the vein) caused raised lumps to form under the skin like callouses which would not go away for up to a month, which I have never seen with any IV'ed substances including heroin. If any one would like more specific information or clarifications of the above let me know, I am short on time at the moment so this is all I can say for now.

A quick addendum: 2-Aminoindan is one of the few substances which is a true anxiolytic in me (some benzodiazepines do not even have this property for me, and only opiates and very large amounts of alcohol do). It made me become somewhat extroverted, with no signs of general and social anxiety, and actually led to "pressured speech" which sometimes verged on mania, but I never felt as if it would go quite that far. In that regard (mania, pressured speech) it was like amphetamines (though I don't think it will produce the same kind of psychosis if at all), though amphetamines are anxiogenic for me not anxiolytic.
 
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2-Ai gives me the WOST comedown and anxiety ever known in the history of mankind. You must be weird=D
 
2-AI is a great chem very alike coce, u just gotta do higher doses.
I usually bomb 500mg and then I snort 50mg lines one after the other..1-2g is enough for a night out, and then I tell you its GOOD shit!

and after 2 or 3 days race I guarantee u, you WILL be seeing cops around every corner, ghosts etc.
 
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