1st Test "Cycle"

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Nattyasanewborn

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I've looked on countless forums and many sites am honestly find conflicting literature. Currently I am on prescribed 200 mg Test Cypionate and don't notice any increase in musculature though I lift 5x week and keep my diet pretty spot on. My question is if I increase to 500 mg Test a week, how much Nolva should I run? .25 mg every third day? Or more than that? Also for a PCT, what is "Standard"? Dosages as well as what kind. Clomid? Etc. Technically this will be my first "blast" then I would cruise with my 200mg prescribed. Any help would be awesome
 
Welcome to BL. Why are you prescribed TRT 200per/wk? That's an unusually high dose. Whats your test levels at? To not notice any physical changes on so much test suggests you're doing something wrong. What's your diet?
 
My test Levels were at 400, my doctor prescribed 200mg to start. I'm not sure why. He said that was fairly standard. Right now my macros are 200 mg protein, 275 carbs and 50g fat. I do 300 cal burned a session of LISS cardio 3x week. I've read elsewhere that 200mg is a fairly low dose per week
 
Nattyasanewborn said:
I've looked on countless forums and many sites am honestly find conflicting literature. Currently I am on prescribed 200 mg Test Cypionate and don't notice any increase in musculature though I lift 5x week and keep my diet pretty spot on. My question is if I increase to 500 mg Test a week, how much Nolva should I run? .25 mg every third day? Or more than that? Also for a PCT, what is "Standard"? Dosages as well as what kind. Clomid? Etc. Technically this will be my first "blast" then I would cruise with my 200mg prescribed. Any help would be awesome
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You don't need nolva just because you increased test... Rather than bump straight up to 500mg, why not try a few weeks on 225mg, 250mg, 275mg, 300mg, 325mg, 350mg, then taper down the dose to 200mg.... You don't need PCT, you're on TRT, just go back to your prescribed amount...
Increase calories if gains are not within expectations...
 
Nattyasanewborn said:
My test Levels were at 400, my doctor prescribed 200mg to start. I'm not sure why. He said that was fairly standard. Right now my macros are 200 mg protein, 275 carbs and 50g fat. I do 300 cal burned a session of LISS cardio 3x week. I've read elsewhere that 200mg is a fairly low dose per week
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I meant your test levels now. At 200 your levels are likely to be way above the top end of normal range.

Also as suspected, you're not eating enough. 2350 calories is inadequate to gain any significant muscle on. Add 500 extra cals to start, and then increase by an extra 250-500 as your weight gain slows.
 
Personally I would say your fats Are a little low.
add in good fats from nuts, nut butters, oily fish and olive oil.

what is your current height, weight and bf ?
 
I'm in a deficit right now, I have no problem with my diet, my main question isn't necessarily about putting on size. I don't have a problem with that, but my main question is, do I need arimidex or nolva at 500 mg a week?
 
Hold on, this is what you said:

I am on prescribed 200 mg Test Cypionate and don't notice any increase in musculature though I lift 5x week and keep my diet pretty spot on.
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So now you're saying this isn't your problem?
 
Nattyasanewborn said:
I'm in a deficit right now, I have no problem with my diet, my main question isn't necessarily about putting on size. I don't have a problem with that, but my main question is, do I need arimidex or nolva at 500 mg a week?
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Do you need to be on 500mg/week...? What's your body weight + BF%...

To answer your question, we don't know, as each individual has differing genetics, but BF%, area of injection, size of bolus, concentration of hormone, injection frequency all influence aromatisation and thus necessity of ancillary compounds...

The best course of action would be to slowly increase the dose of testosterone along with calorie intake, until weight gain slows, then slowly increase the dose and calories, repeat, etc, etc..

Have blood tests confirm if E2 is significantly elevated, and side effects are a problem, then consider low dose (0.5mg) E3rd day/or twice a week adex...

Retake bloods, is E2 reduced, have side effects subsided..?

Hormones are a very personal thing, what happens to someone else might not necessarily apply to you...!!
 
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@CFC I was explaining my experience on TRT so far. If you do recall, my very next sentence read, "My question is if I increase to 500 mg Test a week, how much Nolva should I run? .25 mg every third day? Or more than that? Also for a PCT, what is "Standard"? Dosages as well as what kind. Clomid? Etc." Thank you Genetic Freak for your professionalism and thoroughness. Right now I'm 5'9 217 lbs. 14% bodfat as measured with calipers.
 
Nattyasanewborn said:
@CFC I was explaining my experience on TRT so far. If you do recall, my very next sentence read, "My question is if I increase to 500 mg Test a week, how much Nolva should I run? .25 mg every third day? Or more than that? Also for a PCT, what is "Standard"? Dosages as well as what kind. Clomid? Etc." Thank you Genetic Freak for your professionalism and thoroughness. Right now I'm 5'9 217 lbs. 14% bodfat as measured with calipers.
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You're quite a weight for your height (same height as me)... I'm personally slowly increasing from 0.5ml/week (125mg, now at 275mg/week and will increase roughly every 2-3 weeks as gains stall... I would strongly suggest you don't bump up to 500mg/week, but try a slow increase like myself, avoiding the possibility of initiating side effects sooner and thus negating gains... Just increase food and training intensity...
 
Nattyasanewborn said:
@geneticfreak so if I increased by 75mg this week you think that's a small enough jump?
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Whatever works for you, but I might have stuck to 50mg, or even 25mg... 75mg increments soon bump up your total.. By using a small enough dose you still enough spare to slowly increase over the full 12 weeks... More AAS too soon= More side effects = Gains stall quicker..
 
Thanks @geneticfreak. I haven't bumped anything up yet, but I have a 10ml vial of 300 mg. So I'll bump up to 225. Thanks again for your help!
 
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