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I'd been wanting to roll for years but i'm a pretty nervous anxiety ridden safety freak. I feel comfortable with easy things like alcohol, kava, nitrous.
I found some pokeballs and knowing that they're supposed to be clean pills I felt comfortable taking those for my 1st roll. (white diamond pokeballs, so. cal., good reviews)
I nervously ate one pill and waited for it to kick in... after about 40 min. i got hit with an intense uncomfortable feeling, that just felt tight and awkward....i thought to myself 'i hope this feeling doesn't last long, cuz i don't know if i can handle it for hours'... i had to verbalize how i felt to my friends (who have rolled before) they assured me it will go away, that it's just the pill kicking in --- after that it seemed to drop off and then i felt more relaxed and slightly happy...i noticed the room looked brighter and i was glad the more desired effects were kicking in...

i hung out for a while and noticed that even at my peak the experience was weak. so after about 2 hours i chewed a 2nd pokeball....that one came on without the weird feeling i had for the 1st one.....smoked some menthol cigs (im not a smoker) and those were good and seemed to make the pill kick in better ... i was feelin' noticably content and peaceful...had full blown giant pupils and some clenching....but still realized even after the 2nd pill the experience was mild.

I've read & heard hundreds of reports of MDMA experiences so i definitely know what to expect ... and i don't feel i got all the way there.
-do you think this is just because it was my 1st time and my body needs to get used to it ?
I only dropped one at 1st because it was a pokeball which are supposed to be good and fairly strong and i didnt wanna go overboard the 1st time and ruin the fun. I definitely don't wanna get completely floored or induce a panic attack, that's the last thing i want.

but i'm wondering if i should double drop next time ? (even though i've seen some experienced rollers say that 2 pokes is too much)
cuz i can say musical enhancement, lowered inhibitions, chattiness, openness, excitement & happiness have all been stronger to me on a typical night of taking a lot of shots of alcohol.

and i'm 160 lbs, fit male.

thoughts ?
 
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maybe next time take the first pokeball, then when you're peaking(past the uncomfortable feelings) snort another half?
 
I would be highly sceptical of your "body getting used to MDMA" theory. If MDMA was in those pills, then it would either get you rolling or not. You can't really train your receptors or whatever. I would say that pill was weak and you didn't really get the full MDMA experience.

What you described sounds exactly like a low dose MDMA experience. It's cool, but not mind-blowing like the full-on experience. I would also avoid over-analyzing your experience and micro-managing your expectations (good phrase RGB! :)).

Just try and drop 2 pills from a batch that other people have already tried, so you know that will get you where you want to be. Or better yet, try and find some MDMA crystals - those tend to be more reliable at least in my experience.

Have fun!
 
korei said:
I'd been wanting to roll for years but i'm a pretty nervous anxiety ridden safety freak. I feel comfortable with easy things like alcohol, kava, nitrous.
I found some pokeballs and knowing that they're supposed to be clean pills I felt comfortable taking those for my 1st roll. (white diamond pokeballs, so. cal., good reviews)
I nervously ate one pill and waited for it to kick in... after about 40 min. i got hit with an intense uncomfortable feeling, that just felt tight and awkward....i thought to myself 'i hope this feeling doesn't last long, cuz i don't know if i can handle it for hours'... i had to verbalize how i felt to my friends (who have rolled before) they assured me it will go away, that it's just the pill kicking in --- after that it seemed to drop off and then i felt more relaxed and slightly happy...i noticed the room looked brighter and i was glad the more desired effects were kicking in...

i hung out for a while and noticed that even at my peak the experience was weak. so after about 2 hours i chewed a 2nd pokeball....that one came on without the weird feeling i had for the 1st one.....smoked some menthol cigs (im not a smoker) and those were good and seemed to make the pill kick in better ... i was feelin' noticably content and peaceful...had full blown giant pupils and some clenching....but still realized even after the 2nd pill the experience was mild.

I've read & heard hundreds of reports of MDMA experiences so i definitely know what to expect ... and i don't feel i got all the way there.
-do you think this is just because it was my 1st time and my body needs to get used to it ?
I only dropped one at 1st because it was a pokeball which are supposed to be good and fairly strong and i didnt wanna go overboard the 1st time and ruin the fun. I definitely don't wanna get completely floored or induce a panic attack, twondering if i should double drop next time ? (even though i've seen some experienced rollers say that 2 pokes is too much)
cuz i can say musical enhancement, lowered inhibitions, chattiness, openness, excitement & happiness have all been stronger to me on a typical night of taking a lot of shots of alcohol.

and i'm 160 lbs, fit male.

thoughts ?
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i dont recommend it, i know two pokeballs is too much for me. you do weight 20 pounds more than me tho.
 
levictus said:
What you described sounds exactly like a low dose MDMA experience. It's cool, but not mind-blowing like the full-on experience. I would also avoid over-analyzing your experience and micro-managing your expectations (good phrase RGB! :)).
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Over-analyzing, over-simplifying separated the mind from the body :)


To the OP:
It seems to be very weird that you thought two were mild (assuming they are good pills). I don't really understand why people don't double drop more often. I know everyone's body is different and all that, but more often than not, ~180 mg of mdma would make for more of an enjoyable time that just 90 (pokeballs are usually about 90 mg of mdma). I always take about 200+ mg of mdma, never really exceeding 400-450. Beyond that point it's a waste and the cons outweigh the pros (intense suicide sundays :().

Oh, and it is very possible that your body doesn't metabolize mdma properly or efficiently like most people's body's do.
 
@TearItDown ,... i didn't take 2 at the same time that night though,...i took one...waited 2 or 3 hours and took another. I still expected more from one pokeball though.

looks like i'll definitely try more next time... maybe swallow one and chew a half at the same time,...then wait to see how it kicks in...and take the other half if i need it.

i'm prety sure they were good pills...the come down was easy, just felt like going back to normal, got tired, went to sleep,... had breakfast in the morning. just felt a little tired...
 
i had a white diamond pokeball this morning. i rolled balls forl ike 3 hours, and am still rolling a little bit. i dont know why you didnt feel it that much, these pills are really strong.
 
Maybe it wasnt a legit pill?

I wish I could get ahold of them =/
 
How much time lapsed between your last meal and the time you consumed the first roll? I generally wait at least two hours, but some people may wait even longer. An empty stomach is ideal as the onset will be shorter and the intensity is generally greater (not a bad idea to keep a snack on-hand for after the roll has kicked in, though).

The first time I rolled I ate Blue Ys (mints - very high MDxx content) very soon after eating a meal and the overall experience was wonderful but I have since had more intense experiences with lower content MDxx pills on an emptier stomach.

Sometimes anxiety or your expectations of rolling can kill or mask the effects, too. Perhaps it was set/setting? Keep an open mind - drop the roll and just let it all unfold.

Just some stuff to consider :D On the flip side, I'm fairly certain the MDMA Essential guide in Drugs FAQ suggests that some people may need up to 200mg of MDMA to have a "true" rolling experience. There are definitely a lot of variables that can influence the experience - I'm not sure jumping straight to dropping two next time is necessarily the best thing to do.

Cheers!
 
I can't tell you scientifically but from hearing of other people's experiences. They have said actually the exact same thing as you. I've honestly heard this at least 5 times before. The first time you drop a pill you don't feel it as much because MDMA has to get used to being in your body. The second time is supposed to be your best roll. I however has my best roll the first time I dropped. Yet, because I had heard this before, I dropped 1/4 of the pill and 3/4about 2 hours later. I didn't feel the 1/4 much, just like you described, slightly happy and everything looked brighter. I don't know if this has any proof or evidence. But this is from my experience and other people I know.
Another factor is did you happen to you any serotonergic drugs before E?
That could be a reason why...
Maybe your serotonin receptors are downregulated...
Just my 2 cents
 
This is really nothing more than a set and setting issue...you were over thinking the expierence. you were so concerned with what it was going to feellike and if you were going to have a good time or if you were going to like it that you miss the experience all together. It happens to alot of people.

you just need to let go and have fun. now that you have taken it once the next time you will not be as apprehensive and worked up. you will have a better mindset without even know it and it will go much better for you.
 
^^ exactly. around 200mg's of mdma will have almost anyone rolling balls their first time. next time you roll might i suggest not thinking about it too much, putting on some headphones in a dark enviroment, and having your friends blow you up.

you cant fight the roll even when you feel the uncomfortable come-up feeling because that will put you into a negative mindset and most likely kill the roll.
 
my first roll worked, cuz i knew the feelings to expect from my friend. although now i feel a comeup 20 to 30 minutes in, my first time i rolled, at 45 minutes in i just felt off. then it smacked me in the face withing five minutes.
 
Take more. I find that getting high on MDMA is all or nothing. Low doses will give you a mild effect but trust me when I say that when you get a good MDMA high you won't be left with any questions - just wide eyed amazement.
 
i had almost the same experience as you did. took pokeballs for my first real roll. Like 6 months prior i had taken this blue playboy pill that was alright, but pretty much just a tease.

So anyway i ate one of the yellow zooyorks, and about 35 mins in the comeup was pretty intense and uncomfortable. Then after like 15 mins of feeling a little sketchy it just kind of disappeared. I was kinda buzzed but nothng special so two hours in a took a pink chanel pokeball and chewed that sucker up. 40 mins later i was rollin pretty good and smoked more weed in an hour than i have in the last year probably, just sitting in lawnchair outback with my ipod playing.

Last week i took another zooyork, and it was pretty bomb. A couple hours in a snorted maybe a third of another one but overall the second roll was more fun. I think its that you learn to recognize the effects, not that your body needs to get used to the drug.
 
vancbc said:
Take more. I find that getting high on MDMA is all or nothing. Low doses will give you a mild effect but trust me when I say that when you get a good MDMA high you won't be left with any questions - just wide eyed amazement.
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not good advise.

pokeballs are around 100mg each. 200mg's of mdma is alot for a first timer.
 
The first time you drop a pill you don't feel it as much because MDMA has to get used to being in your body.
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this is bullshit.

a) why would an inert substance have to get used to being in your body?

and even if you meant it the other way around, b) its not an anti-depressant, there is no build up of effects, you either feel it or you dont

set and setting, baby...your mindset was too focused on the inward experience, when all of MDMA is set off by outward happenings...and it sounds like your setting was fairly boring

I know this is similar to how i felt my first roll, and looking back, it was my best roll (old school Blue Dolphin, MDxx High) even though at the time i was like "wtf...its been three hours and im already coming down?"
 
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1. Yes I believe it was weak because it was your first time. My first pill gave me an awesome body high but it was weak, no real roll. Second time it took a little longer, but I BLEW UP. Thank god I had some lovely girls taking care of me :)

2. Personally, my body doesn't really take advantage of dropping later. 2 hours after the first pill might have been too long. My guess is I need to take the second one within the first hour of the first dropped.

3. Snort. Only snorted once (powder), hurt like hell, but godDAMN I blew up fast. Went like this: "Ow ow ow fuck my nose! Jesus christ dudes! Fuck it really.... woah. Coming up already?" Very potent like that, might want to try it if you're naturally tolerant to swallowing pills.
 
^^dont snort. MDMA has a ridiculously low bioavailability when snorted as compared to oral, and the fillers just make it more difficult....if you need that quick hit, powder it and either put it under your tongue or parachute it
 
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