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Good move, FG. DOx chems are just not ones that can safely be used without great care and attention being made to getting the dosing right. With substances that the difference between the night of your life and the last night of your life being barely distinguishable to the naked eye you really can't be taking chances. Check the thread on volumetric dosing in the PD Index if you haven't already. I would strongly recommend getting things in place beforehand and asking questions about how to measure as accurately as possible. DOx is orders of magnitude beyond stuff like 2C-x in terms of potency but also physical risks when taken in large amounts. It's not just an unusually heavy trip it's A&E and nothing beyond that if you're lucky.
 
cheers yeah i think ive got my head round the basics of volumetric dosing now not rocket science like is it lol but i know with doc its like 2 mg at the very most sort of and most people don't go that high now was this stuff around in 93/94 time ? because i think that could of been what was in them red dragon trips it was common for them to last 24 hours and to go bad in a big way when they did
 
Don't know of those specific tabs but some of the DOx compounds can last for days even at intended doses. As with any such experience, it makes all the difference to be going prepared and with some idea of what to expect in terms of effects and duration. What can be trasnscendent bliss for one can be existensial hell for the next if they went in expecting anything they were not fully aware of deliberately taking. With DOx there is often the added factor that people thought they were taking acid and when it didn't kick in after an hour or so (DOx compounds often take longer than acid to kick in) they go taking top-ups and end up in horrid situations. Taken at sensible doses whislt fully aware of what you are doing DOx are no more or less risky than other similar (very broadly speaking) drugs. Psyches of any stripe should always be given due respect cos any and all can and will fuck you over and slap you silly one way or another. With DOx it's just the extreme potency, duration and anavoidably physical psychedelic amphetamine concerns are that bit more potentially concerning given how minute the doses invovled are. Due respect and caution are essential, beyond that pschedelics are what they are and what they are is deeply personal and individual.

I've never sampled any of them msyelf so far. Was gifted some isomerised DOM a few years ago and managed to lose it in a pool of dutty bongwater whilst ketted off my tits one time. Never likely to come across the like of that again dammit :!

DOC has been highly recommended to me by people whose psychedilical opions I have personal belief in but have yet to trust myself to dose myself safely due to rampant incompetence over the years. That and still smarting somewhat over having almost literally pissed away that DOM dammit :!
 
Not much Serenity, Tranquility & Peace there then Shambs, eh? Lost your DOM :( Lol

I was quite surprised a few years ago when I saw that we had actually had a fatality on DOC here in the UK. This poor fella is the only one to the best of my knowledge.

http://www.thesaint-online.com/2013/04/moment-of-madness-rare-drug-implicated-in-student-death/

The entire DOxx series is a meaty selection & apparently DOC is the lightest, easiest-going of the lot. But it is not a light psyche. I've taken DOC many times, at least a dozen off the top of my head & I've had some awesome experiences on the stuff. But it's bitten me in the arse once or twice too. Even relatively low doses are profoundly powerful, often producing a violent purge at onset. Because of it's duration it's not difficult to turn a good trip into a bad one, but the opposite is also true, it's long enough to turn a bad one into a good one.

Alot of people are wary of DOC & with good reason. If you're thinking of getting it in I'd read every single thing I could find on the drug, on diluting & dosing it & go very, very easy at first. I got threshold effects from a little less than 1mg but 1.25 produced a proper trip. I got up as high as 2mg doses but never got higher.

If you dilute the stuff mark your bottle so you casn see if your mixture evaporates. If it does it will render the remaing dilute stronger & you need to know that. The best thing is to do a small-run lay of blotters with your DOC, once everything evaps you're left with DOC tabs that you can be sure are dosed correctly. But again, laying your own blotters is something you need to know how to do properly before you start messing with DOC.

Spend some time in PD to learn more about DOC, diluting it & laying blotters,
 
foolsgold said:
for volumetric dosing what to i want alcohol or water ?
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most people use (mono) propylene glycol for volumetric measurement of powders. Its relatively cheap (about half the price of the cheapest of alcohol spirits) and is by far the safest substance in terms of restricting bacterial growth and also in terms of what effects it will have on w/e powedr you are using etc.

I purchased a 5 Litre drum of the stuff about a year ago, but never make batches any bigger than 750ml any more. Making huge 1 or 2 liter batches turned out to be a bad idea cos the powders seperate out after a few months. Water is very bad for speedy bacterial growth. Completely unsafe for storage of any length of time. I guess it depends how big a batch you're gonna make. Anything over 100ml makes it worth getting PG imo. If you're gonna be using far less than that then i guess alcohol would be ok for mixing very small batches.

Ive only ever used PG for dissolving and measuring benzo powder solutions. From personal expereience i can vouch for the safety of PG for up to several months. Even after that there is no bacterial growth but the powders can start to seperate out after a while, i mean i wouldnt recommend making a huge batch thinking that you can safely store it for years and that you can rely on it being usable after being stored for many months.
 
I managed to dissolve alprazolam powder in vodka for a .3mg per 1ml solution for dosing with a syringe. It took a good bit of stirring though and some did precipitate after a while but a good stir for a couple of minutes always got it dissolved again.

Wasn't the tastiest thing to have to dose with though.
 
What's the headspace like with 1p-lsd? I love that mind fuck I get from acid that 25i-nbome so disappointingly lacks ?
 
On 1 tab i didn't really get mindfuck as such, but i got mindexpanded to fuck - i was lost in deep thoughts and music for hours - really impressive compared to 25i imo (i didn't have much visuals - though i often don't have much on lsd). Felt like it could have some of that 'mindfuck' with higher dose, though it mostly was good natured and clear-minded (but not internally sober the way 25i is) - ymmv
 
For me it felt essentially identical to LSD. This is only the one use with a single 100ug tab, mind.

foolsgold said:
for volumetric dosing what to i want alcohol or water ?
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I do believe DOx chems are far more soluble than benzo powders are so PG shouldn't be necessary. Whether or not it would be desirable anyway I really don't know. I can't imagine it would be any good for laying blotter if you go that route though. I've mostly heard of folk using vodka (or other spirit) to make psychepowder solutions which would be far more suited to the blotter suggestion I would think. I'd also echo Si's suggestion to really look into it and ask as many questions as possible - the PD threads on these topics would almost certainly be best for getting reliable info as making solutions of uberpotent psyches and/or laying blotter is not something that we have ever had much discussion of here in EADD.
 
No idea but it is pretty hard to distinguish subjectively whilst on it. One thing I have noticed is that, rather pleasingly ironically, it does seem to cause one to pee. Considerably more so than LSD itself does. There does seem to be some underlying stimulation that is similar but different to LSD itself. Not stimmy stimulating and not LSD "liquid-electric sheen" type stimulation... closer the latter but not quite the same. Has more of a "druggy" feel to me but is pretty minor and slight - even compared to the other recent legal lysergamides. If you can't get LSD itself, or just wish to expand your boundaries but not too far, this stuff would appear to be made of pure win so far, I'd say.
 
Cool, I was just wondering after seeing this:

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edit: I've no idea what it means right enough.
 
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