Benzos 1MG Clonazapam 833!?

[Jabberwocky]

how many MG's do you guys need to feel "good"? What are the feeling you get w/ these. I've been seeing these more and more since I stopped getting scripted xanny after coming forth to addiction. although, I sometimes still think xanny might be better just based on my exp. w/ it I wanted to ask those who know more.

I am also on subox but typically use benzo to help sleep or if any anxiety. sometimes ill smoke a bowl while on the benzo to space off.

good times.. right?

 

[MagickalKat777]

Klonopin is probably the least euphoric benzo in my opinion. They're great for ending panic attacks, great for sleep, and great for social anxiety but they don't have the rush of the rest of the benzos that I've done. I'd even say that milligram for milligram, Ativan has more of a rush than Klonopin does.

They're fantastic as a general benzo but if you're looking to feel anything particularly euphoric from them, you're going to be disappointed.

That said, Klonopin is probably one of the most dangerous benzos to mix with CNS depressants so be careful with it. I've never had a problem mixing anything with Valium or Xanax but I had extreme respiratory depression from 4mg of Dilaudid mixed with just 1mg of Klonopin and had to take many shallow breaths for around two hours and probably should have gone to the ER but fought through it.

 

[Grand Touring]

Klonopin is probably the least euphoric benzo in my opinion. They're great for ending panic attacks, great for sleep, and great for social anxiety but they don't have the rush of the rest of the benzos that I've done. I'd even say that milligram for milligram, Ativan has more of a rush than Klonopin does.

They're fantastic as a general benzo but if you're looking to feel anything particularly euphoric from them, you're going to be disappointed.

That said, Klonopin is probably one of the most dangerous benzos to mix with CNS depressants so be careful with it. I've never had a problem mixing anything with Valium or Xanax but I had extreme respiratory depression from 4mg of Dilaudid mixed with just 1mg of Klonopin and had to take many shallow breaths for around two hours and probably should have gone to the ER but fought through it.

Wow, magickalkat, I hate to disagree with you as you've helped me a bunch, it's obviously subjective experience not object proof. But I have been prescribed everything from A-Z in the benzo class since I was 20, and I ALWAYS find myself coming back to klonopin. Ativan, in my opinion has the least recreational values, especially when it's coming down from a stim or potentiating another DOC. But I can't stress enough so keep in mind, everyone is different!! Klonopin has just the right things going for it--such as half-life. It's right in the middle of the mix not too long like valium and not too short like xanax, and keeps my panic/anxiety at bay for days without having to redose. The reason why most hospitals are first to give you lorazepam is because of it's low recreational value as a benzo. I took close to 20mg of ativan thanksgiving eve and went to the bar and drank. And tonight I take 8mg of klonopin and feel more anxyolytic properties than the former.

In my opinion, versed is the absolute king when it comes to benzos. Even being on klonopin, before a surgery I was IV'd some and I was a kid in a candy store, asked for more, got more, and they couldn't shut me up before my surgery.

Speaking of opiates and benzos, I used to abused IN subutex/suboxone while on klonopin, and of course being careful I would micro-dose with no problems.

 

[MagickalKat777]

I'm actually talking about euphoria. Klonopin is one of the most anxiolytic benzos. In fact I'd say its better than Valium and I'd still be on it if it hadn't stopped working altogether for me.

I never found Klonopin to be recreational though. I guess it depends on your definition of recreational. Xanax and Valium have a recreational buzz associated with them. Hell Xanax's rush was actually pretty intense for me. Klonopin never had a rush or any consistent noticeable intoxicating buzz, it just was exceptionally good at abolishing anxiety and panic and its the ONLY thing I ever found useful for agoraphobia.

I assumed from the phrasing of the post that the OP was looking for a rush of some sort. I agree with you that Ativan is pretty much worthless in that regard but it is more intoxicating than Klonopin is.

One of the reasons that Klonopin is preferred over Valium and especially Xanax is because it is considered to be far less recreational than either of them. A select few report them being more euphoric than the other benzos but in general they consist of those of us with anxiety issues who associate abolished anxiety with recreational effects. If I was rating benzos based on anxiety effects, Klonopin is the best in every category except for rebound and tolerance development which Valium significantly edges out Klonopin on.

Euphoria - Versed IV, Xanax, Ativan IV, Valium, and oral Ativan and Klonopin tied for last place.
Anxiety as needed - Klonopin, Xanax, Ativan, Valium
Anxiety daily - Klonopin, Valium, Ativan, Xanax
Agoraphobia - Klonopin - all the others are pretty much ineffective for it in my experience
In the midst of a panic attack - Ativan IV, Klonopin, oral Ativan, Xanax, Valium
Tolerance development (slowest to fastest) - Valium, Ativan, Klonopin, Xanax
Withdrawal symptoms (worst to best) - Klonopin, Xanax, Valium, Ativan
Withdrawal symptoms (duration - shortest to longest recovery time) - Ativan, Xanax tend to recover the fastest while Valium and Klonopin are tied for last and are also the most likely to trigger PAWS

There are way too many factors to consider when it comes to benzos. It is a sad day when we get so far into our anxiety that we start to associate relief from anxiety (what we would normally have called baseline anxiety levels) as euphoria but I know what you're talking about GT.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Grand Touring - I am on you w/ this one. I've was scripted 90 1MG Xanny a month and although I used w/ alot of other drugs, I never felt the same high/happyness/free feeling that I get from the Klonapins. I'll usually take 3MG to feel good or just to chill throughout the day. in my Xanny days 3=4MG would make me sleep if I wasnt shooting or if it wasnt the middle of the day and I was wide awake.

So many have problems w/ Xanny, as did I.. but it was my script. If I had to choose It would have probably been Valium but the Klona's have always been fun. It's just lately since I stopped using dope but still on 16/MG of Subox I am not sure what is better w/ what or why. so I like to ask my board peeps here on Bluelight.

I got RIPPED off w/ these PINS.. wont even mention what I paid but I was under the impression I was buying 10MG Valium and then opened up to see these. I dont even blame the kid who picked these up for me; he knows knothing about benzo's but pissed that he would be stupid enough to pay what he did. I'll put it this way - I could have bout 30 1MG xannny for hte price I paid for 10 1MG Klona. Imagine? but hey, I am "clean", I have money again, and there is no needle around me. Life is good.

 

[RTrain]

When I had a bunch of xanax I couldn't help but take some everyday. Today actually marks a week of not taking any after doing some almost everyday for nearly 4 months, prob 2-3 days I didn't take some. I wasn't too bad, though, like .5-1.5 mg a day and I tapered it down to .25 a day before I ran out. I've had large amounts of valium and kpin recently, too, but never felt the need to do them so often. Like every couple days I would use those and take breaks for a few weeks because I have a seriously bad fear of benzo w/d. So it seems those longer acting ones are much better for PRN use. I will never get an abundant amount of xanax again, I always read about how much more addictive they were, ppl calling them the crack of benzos and stuff. I guess its true, though.

Hey, also, at least getting 1 mg pins are basically equal to 10 mg of valium. I seem to like valium better, though. They are much harder to come by so maybe its just the change of pace.

I find it odd how benzos are much harder to come by than I remember in my younger years. It seemed back in high school there was always 1 of the standard 3 (pins xan val) making its way around the halls. Nowadays I've asked everyone I can think of to help me to no avail. The last time I relied on someone else to get them for me it was a super shady deal where I too was getting ripped off for what I was " suppose" to get. I ended up not only paying way more than I know they were worth (b/c I was facing oxy w/d and I really wanted them, plus the $ is nothing compared to what I spent on the oxy) but then got scammed and was given a bunch of blood pressure medications. Then I proceeded to lose a friend over the situation, who I 1. did like as a person and 2. had good connections, but hes clean now so doesn't matter really.

 

[Jabberwocky]

not much money in the benzo game, thats why. I am sure my friend through an extra buck or two on these pills which is why I paid top dollar for such a small supply. so the kid made 20 bucks to drive and get me pills. oh well, its worth the cost. rather it be him making the deal than me.

when I was scripted 90/mo I would usually sell half my script off and score dope. the other half I'd blow threw in a few days. then there were times I'd blow through all 90 pills in a few days. all depended on what was happening at that point in time.

I took 2MG of kpin this morning and feel great at work right now. they give me a diff. type of high than xanny. xanny makes me more chill and nod type; which is what I USED to love. but kpin almost gives me a little more energy and activity.

does anyone else get more active on kpins? talking ONLY kpin here? xanny knocks me out. valium is also another I like but dont come across as often. as of my "suppliers" now have kpins.

 

[jeeves]

I'm with MagikalKat here, Klonopin is a very effective axiolytic and sedative but I see it as having limited recreational value.