17th Issue General Heroin Discussion v. Perfect Day

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BostonBrownTown,

At one time I too have been to the highs and probably even the depths/lows that you too have experienced. I never once asked for help to quit, it wasn't offered, wasn't accessible and therefore wasn't necessary in my epic adventure to stop. Though I will say the company that manufactured the substance buprenorphine (aka Suboxone) did aid in my quest, though they were not prescribed - making it even that much harder and expensive for me to stop... the next step was getting off subs, which as you and I and everyone on here probably knows was the longest hardest thing ever. It wasn't a quick severe w/d like off dope or OC but a long drawn out experience where each day gets worse instead of better, until you get to about the 3 or 4 month mark i would say, thats about when the days KINDA start to get better... I used a combo of Tramad0l + benzos (for 1st week or 2 coming off sub dose of 0.25mgs) and a huge cocktail of supplements during this process.... It wasn't easy but like I always say "If one can conquer a opiate addiction, then one can conquer anything mentally or physically." I fell back many times, back onto subs more or less and I still work on getting better to this day... It sucks and I hate it.. being on subs is horrible - as you might know - but its also horrible being off them... so yeah... Sometimes I wonder if maybe bupe wasn't the best way to go but its to late now.. Hopefully my brain repairs itself but its still uncertain, and it frightens me to read some people that have been off subs for 4 or 5 years and still don't feel right...All I can do is wait and see and try my best to get better man. Yea I'll still dabble here and there once in a blue moon but never more then a one time thing...
 
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tomatalli said:
Yeah I've tried telling him how much if a waste it is but he doesn't wanna listen he's one of the guys who used to smoke Oxy so I guess he's a lost cause hah.

Hopefully gonna be pickin up 60 kpins from this dude I know within a week so in gonna try to taper my dose of dope down and while taking a kpin or two to help with the anxiety. I was wondering though, do kpins help with muscle spasms?
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Yeah they help with muscle spasms pretty well. Maybe not as good as valium, but probably better than most other common benzos.

gh0stmAn said:
BostonBrownTown,

At one time I too have been to the highs and probably even the depths/lows that you too have experienced. I never once asked for help to quit, it wasn't offered, wasn't accessible and therefore wasn't necessary in my epic adventure to stop. Though I will say the company that manufactured the substance buprenorphine (aka Suboxone) did aid in my quest, though they were not prescribed - making it even that much harder and expensive for me to stop... the next step was getting off subs, which as you and I and everyone on here probably knows was the longest hardest thing ever. It wasn't a quick severe w/d like off dope or OC but a long drawn out experience where each day gets worse instead of better, until you get to about the 3 or 4 month mark i would say, thats about when the days KINDA start to get better... I used a combo of Tramad0l + benzos (for 1st week or 2 coming off sub dose of 0.25mgs) and a huge cocktail of supplements during this process.... It wasn't easy but like I always say "If one can conquer a opiate addiction, then one can conquer anything mentally or physically." I fell back many times, back onto subs more or less and I still work on getting better to this day... It sucks and I hate it.. being on subs is horrible - as you might know - but its also horrible being off them... so yeah... Sometimes I wonder if maybe bupe wasn't the best way to go but its to late now.. Hopefully my brain repairs itself but its still uncertain, and it frightens me to read some people that have been off subs for 4 or 5 years and still don't feel right...All I can do is wait and see and try my best to get better man. Yea I'll still dabble here and there once in a blue moon but never more then a one time thing...
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3-4 months of withdrawal when jumping off .25 mg a day? Damn, how long did you stay on Suboxone? I could see the PAWS going that long, depending on how long on the Subs and your DOC prior to that. But if you are talking about physical withdrawal I can't imagine 3 months of it. I that 3 weeks was around the average time for a Subs acute withdrawal phase.



Well my induction hasn't been too bad for a first day. I dosed in increments of approximately 1 mg, taking 1 mg every 90 minutes so far and just took the third. So hopefully in and 45 minutes I can feel that and it helps a little more. Its honestly been pretty smooth so far. I'd be thrilled to keep the dosage down, so the taper can be quicker and easier. I just can't eat a thing, which is pretty standard for the procedure.
 
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Yes its bearable. Couldn't eat much all day but just ate a pretty much normal sized dinner. It always seems to come in waves for me. Like for 15 minutes I will all of sudden feel so awful, then it will pass and be tolerable for a bit, then I feel not so bad for about 15 minutes, with that cycle repeating. It was always the same with cold turkeying it, too. At least this time I have ample amount of benzos, I didn't last time got on Subs and I am thinking it is helping a lot.
 
tomatalli said:
How much do you guys think a bundle of CT dop weighs? The bags I get are pretty fat. I was thinking around .8-1g?
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Verso is from CT and he weighed out average bags and they were 35-40mg, so the bundle would be only .4 at the most.
 
^That's about how the bundles are in RI and MA these days...amazing fucking dope...at least what I've had lately...Even the bags I had before I left a few years ago...I had my gram connects and my bundle connects...It depended on the situation what I'd grab on any given day...I started on bundles and I still like them better...You end up doing more, at least I end up doing more if I have straight grams...with a brick, I can do exactly 22 bags and still have 28 left.

Still, I cant talk prices, but an RI/southern Mass brick is about the price of 2 NYC bundles....50 bags for the price of 20, but they're nowhere near .1 a bag!
 
^ that's beat. I prob have .8-1g tho in a bun (13). The bags I got since July have all been Philly blue bags and they've always been good. I got a bundle like an hour ago, and I'm sure it was .7-.8. But the quality made up for the lost .2-.3 the shit was good and I've been back on subs since dec 22nd and I ended up getting weed from this girl then she asked if I wanted coke or dope. At first I said just coke then I got a bun cuz it was so cheap. I did 5 bags cuz I had lot if sub to break through and I did coke with it. I'm gonna save 6 for tommorrow and do 1 more tonight then 6 for tommorrow and it's back to subs till I go on vivotrol in less the. A month. I can't wait

Should be copping another 20 of coke in a few hours from the same dude as last tome but its a half g that o know is banging, unlike this batch I got now which is mediocre. These bags got me dumb high tho. Can't even type on my phone. Bout to do another line of coke in like 10 mins when I get to this girls house soon
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
That is horrible for CT or NY. Dude is getting some skimped ass bags then. Sounds closer to NJ dope.
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He thought they were coming from NJ. They weren't the traditional wide NY bags either. The fat NY bags I got were .1 and the average ones were 70-80mg. I could also get buns weighing .6 which were NJ prices, so best of both worlds I guess. Actually the .1 bags I was getting were just a little higher than NJ prices, and they were fire too which was why my boy made the 45min drive to brooklyn nearly everyday for over a year.
 
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^What's beat?! They're small bags, but they're half the price! 4/7ths the price of a Philly bag...It's all what you get you for the money..."bundle/jab" is just a rough measurement....You can fit a fuckin gram in a single stamp bag!

I love it how white people on here act like they somehow have better connects than everyone else! I've done dope all over the country...It gets packaged differently, maybe stepped on a little more...but $100 in LA gets you just as high as $100 in New jersey! You guys are just some dope-fiends who are going through whatever dealers are in your area, same as everybody else...Why do you have to play it like you're "special"...like you're jus soooo fuckin' cool that some random ass dealer tryin' to make money gives you a better deal than everyone else! Fuckin bullshit! They charge what they can charge relative to what everyone else in the area sells it for....fucking standard capitalism! If you're an idiot with shitty dealers, or you live in an area with little to no dope, you'll pay more...but other than that, you're just some random heroin user looking for the best deal that you can find!

"Oh, my boy takes care of me yooo! He knows I'm cool! He calls me "nigga" and delivers right to my house...I'm not like the other "custies"! Yeah right!
 
BlueHues said:
@Smokemtokem420

^What's beat?! They're small bags, but they're half the price! 4/7ths the price of a Philly bag...It's all what you get you for the money..."bundle/jab" is just a rough measurement....You can fit a fuckin gram in a single stamp bag!

I love it how white people on here act like they somehow have better connects than everyone else! I've done dope all over the country...It gets packaged differently, maybe stepped on a little more...but $100 in LA gets you just as high as $100 in New jersey! You guys are just some dope-fiends who are going through whatever dealers are in your area, same as everybody else...Why do you have to play it like you're "special"...like you're jus soooo fuckin' cool that some random ass dealer tryin' to make money gives you a better deal than everyone else! Fuckin bullshit! They charge what they can charge relative to what everyone else in the area sells it for....fucking standard capitalism! If you're an idiot with shitty dealers, or you live in an area with little to no dope, you'll pay more...but other than that, you're just some random heroin user looking for the best deal that you can find!

"Oh, my boy takes care of me yooo! He knows I'm cool! He calls me "nigga" and delivers right to my house...I'm not like the other "custies"! Yeah right!
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I just assume everyone on here was white, until proven otherwise. I am guessing this is proof you are not.

^This is just a joke btw
 
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gh0stmAn said:
BostonBrownTown,

At one time I too have been to the highs and probably even the depths/lows that you too have experienced. I never once asked for help to quit, it wasn't offered, wasn't accessible and therefore wasn't necessary in my epic adventure to stop. Though I will say the company that manufactured the substance buprenorphine (aka Suboxone) did aid in my quest, though they were not prescribed - making it even that much harder and expensive for me to stop... the next step was getting off subs, which as you and I and everyone on here probably knows was the longest hardest thing ever. It wasn't a quick severe w/d like off dope or OC but a long drawn out experience where each day gets worse instead of better, until you get to about the 3 or 4 month mark i would say, thats about when the days KINDA start to get better... I used a combo of Tramad0l + benzos (for 1st week or 2 coming off sub dose of 0.25mgs) and a huge cocktail of supplements during this process.... It wasn't easy but like I always say "If one can conquer a opiate addiction, then one can conquer anything mentally or physically." I fell back many times, back onto subs more or less and I still work on getting better to this day... It sucks and I hate it.. being on subs is horrible - as you might know - but its also horrible being off them... so yeah... Sometimes I wonder if maybe bupe wasn't the best way to go but its to late now.. Hopefully my brain repairs itself but its still uncertain, and it frightens me to read some people that have been off subs for 4 or 5 years and still don't feel right...All I can do is wait and see and try my best to get better man. Yea I'll still dabble here and there once in a blue moon but never more then a one time thing...
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if you were scripted, and had the ability to always get a dosage, then it may have been easier for you. there is a reason I try to stay ahead of my Dr. -- I dont want him thinking it's time to quit when its not. I'd like to be taking .00001MG of bupe before the day comes and I say OK today is my last day. I am interested in holding as many as possible so that if this does all work, and my plan goes down how I want it, I will not experience any type of withdrawal. maybe a few bummed out days but not withdrawal. a friend of mine did this years ago w/ bupe and still sober today. he said he never felt a thing. he was taking a "niblit" (whatever that is but he'd say it) and an 8MG subox would last him 2-3 weeks.
 
No, I'm white, not that it matters anyway. You could be black and be a custy too, or "fiend" as some dealers call it.....
 
BlueHues said:
No, I'm white, not that it matters anyway. You could be black and be a custy too, or "fiend" as some dealers call it.....
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Well yeah you could be, but they wouldn't be on here bragging about how much their dealer hooks it up and how no one else get the deals like them.
 
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